De: "Joyce Cook" <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet:
Re: Happy New Year
Date:
dimanche 1 janvier 2006
Thank you for your New Year's Day wishes.
We had a barbeque last night (New Year's Eve) with lamb cutlets that we grow
ourselves). We have an 11 acre property with sheep and we keep ourselves in
lambs. Cutlets are anything up to AUD$38 a kilo here. This is an outrageous
price. It is now 10am on new years day
and we are expecting 40 degrees Celsius today. It is about 34 degrees. The beaches
are packed already. I sometimes miss the
snow of Tsingtao my home town but I truly love
----- Original
Message -----
From: rod miller
To:
weihsien@topica.com
Sent: Saturday,
December 31, 2005
Subject: Re: Happy New Year
At
Happy New Year, everyone.
Here in the
It's 45.3 outside at the moment.
R
De: "Joyce Cook"
<bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Happy New Year
Date: dimanche 1 janvier 2006 1:19
Dear Mary. Thanks for your greetings and the same to you and everybody. Yes the
weather in
De: "David Birch" <gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: "Weihsien" <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Thanks Mary, Rod and Joyce for the New Year's greetings!
Date: dimanche 1 janvier 2006
I'm still living in the
"afterglow" of the wonderful 60th Anniversary of Weihsien
Liberation. I had the privilege of
spending nearly ten days in
Let's take a few moments to send our
heartiest Best Wishes to James Broughton and his lovely new bride Carolyn
(Christenson) Broughton. They are being married TODAY in the Church in
David
De: "Joyce Cook"
<bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Thanks Mary, Rod and Joyce for the New Year's greetings!
Date: dimanche 1 janvier 2006
All our best wishes for a Happy New year to
everybody on the Weihsien site. Particularly to James and Carolyn on their
wedding day in
De: "georgeanna knisely"
<jknisely@paonline.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Thanks Mary, Rod and Joyce for the New Year's greetings!
Date: lundi 2 janvier 2006
James and Carolyn,
Congratulations on your wedding!!!!! I remember greeting you two in the
Without you, James, I would not have the pictures I have. And just wish that I had had more time with your mother to reminisce more and talk about you!
James and Carolyn, may our Lord continue to bless you as you start out together to enrich the world in His name.
Mary, I am so happy for you also. Wish you could come visit me in PA I get home
from family Christmas on the 3rd. IF any
chance that you could fly to
De: "Nicky & Leopold"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: 2006
Date: mercredi 4 janvier 2006 12:34
Dear Weihsien friends,
Our very best wishes for the New Year --- health and happiness all along the next 365 days and far beyond ---
Tomorrow morning we will be on our way to
Best regards,
Nicky and Leopold
De: "Mary Previte"
<mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: 2006
Date: mercredi 4 janvier 2006 20:26
We'll look forward to seeing your pictures and getting a report of your adventure, Leopold. Please wish HAPPY NEW YEAR to all of our friends and hosts in Weifang.
Mary Previte
De: "Mary Previte" <mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Philip McLorn of Weihsien
Date: lundi 9 janvier 2006
Hello, Everbody:
Philip McLorn, age 72, contacted me today
-- a wonderful surprise. Thank you,
Internet. Philip was interned in
Weihsien -- part of the
Any of you who were room mates or classmates with Philip may want to connect with him at _jpmclorn@golden.net_ (mailto:jpmclorn@golden.net) He and his wife live at 10 Water Street, Ayr, Ontario, NOB 1E0.
Weihsien liberator TAD NAGAKI will celebrate his birthday on January 25.
If you'd like to send him a card, his
address is
NE 69301
USA He continues to farm in
Mary Previte
De: "Sui Shude - Weifang
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: News From Sui Shude of Weihsien
Date: lundi 9 janvier 2006
News From Sui Shude – Weifang (Weihsien) 22:49 January 9th, 2006
"LEOPOLD PANDER AND HIS FAMILY FROM
WEIFANG (WEIHSIEN)"
Today, Mr. Leopold Pander, his wife and relatives, came specially from
They arrived in
In the afternoon, the group visited the
In the evening, the group were invited to a special welcome banquet dinner hosted by officials of Weifang People's Government.
Tomorrow, the group will explore the
Weihsien Camp site in details the whole morning. They will pay a visit to the
school-master of the
Also, they will have time to visit the
They will leave Weifang after dinner tomorrow.
Sui Shude arranged all of their itinerary and visits in Weifang.
The name list of the group is:
1.Mr. Leopold Pander
2.Mrs. Nicky Pander
3.Mr. Keyen - Depadt
4.Mrs. Keyen - Depadt
Leopold Pander was born in Tientsin (
Sui Shude
De: "David Allen" <dandya@fidalgo.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Philip McLorn of Weihsien
Date: lundi 9 janvier 2006
Thank you Mary:
I have several references to Philip McLorn in my letters sent home to my folks from the Chefoo and Temple Hill days.
I don't have any reference of Philip being in Weihsien.
I will send him the info I have on Chefoo and I think he would be interested.
David Allen
----- Original
Message -----
From: Mary Previte
To:
weihsien@topica.com
Sent: Sunday,
January 08, 2006
Subject: Philip McLorn of Weihsien
Hello, Everbody:
Philip McLorn, age 72, contacted me today -- a wonderful surprise. Thank you, Internet. Philip was interned in Weihsien -- part of
the
Any of you who were room mates or classmates with Philip may want to connect with him at jpmclorn@golden.net He and his wife live at 10 Water Street, Ayr, Ontario, NOB 1E0.
Weihsien liberator TAD NAGAKI will celebrate his birthday on January
25. If you'd like to send him a card,
his address is
Mary Previte
De: "georgeanna knisely"
<jknisely@paonline.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: News From Sui Shude of Weihsien
Date: mardi 10 janvier 2006 3:47
Sui Shude,
You are truly a marvellous host to us old Weihsien internees. Our visit with you in August was overwhelming. Amarvelous time and welcome from you and Weifang government and school and people!
And now you are doing the same thing for Leopold and his wife, who are keeping all of us up to date and in pictures. Thank you for us, once again and for taking care of them.
With great appreciation Georhgie Reinbrecht Knisely
De: "Mary Broughton" <wilmar@clear.net.nz>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: re many thanks to David, Joyce and Georgie
Date: mercredi 11 janvier 2006
Many thanks for your good wishes for James
and Carolyn's Wedding. We are just back
from
I went with my son Chris and daughter
Helene and their families all together to
I totally agree the Weihsien Liberation Celebration was an amazing, wonderful experience and quite emotional. If only we had stayed another few hours together to share experiences and feelings. So many thanks to Sui Shude, Weifang city and all who helped and of course those who attended it.
Mary (Hoyte) Broughton
----- Original Message -----
From: Ian Grant
To: Chefusians
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006
Subject: Tony Railton in
I received this news from Tony Railton in
Tony wrote: "I attended
"I am 81 now, and would be interested if any of those
interned with my grandparents have any memories or recollections of them. I never had the chance to meet up with them
after they returned to
Sincerely, Ian
-----------------------------------------
Ian Grant
22
705-726-9677
705-726-4386 (fax)
iangrant@rogers.com
De: "Nicky & Leopold"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Cc: "Janette & Pierre @ home"
<pierre.ley@pandora.be>; "Colette & Yves @ home"
<keyenyco@hotmail.com>
Objet: Weifang visit,
Date: lundi 16 janvier 2006 11:42
Dear Mr. Shude,
Dear Weihsien friends,
We are now back in
Most important of all: we visited No.2
Middle Class School and what remains of our old compound, the hospital, the
villas, the museum, the garden, the monuments, the bell, ----- and I was free
to take all the pictures I wished. Which I did! We visited the kite museum and
the kite fabric. We walked in the gardens facing the government building and I
can assure you that when we were driven back to Quindao at the very end of the
second day, we were all 4 of us: on our knees. Happily exhausted --- We were
back in
Again, thank you Mr. Shude.
If any of you are planning to visit Weifang and Weihsien, --- I heartily recommend you to write to Mr. Shude first.
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "Nicky & Leopold"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: China adventure,
Date: samedi 21 janvier 2006
Hello
Since we are back from
I just finished my Weihsien-chapter last night. Could you have a look? --- and also suggest any corrections.
It was all a most unexpected and fantastic adventure --
Best regards,
Leopold
P.S. I just got a very nice message from Mr. Sui Shude with the corrections for the "group-picture". I'll try and fix that ASAP.
De: "Nicky & Leopold"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: new link:
Date: dimanche 22 janvier 2006 12:12
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/pander/Weifang2006/Slide_Show/01_KiteFabric/p_Kite_01.htm
Hello,
New photos --- just click on the (above) link --- :-))
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "Pamela Masters"
<pamela@hendersonhouse.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: new link:
Date: lundi 23 janvier 2006
Dear Leopold and Nicky --
Thank you so much for that fabulous layout and all the pictures! Sometimes it was hard to recognize the old camp within the scope of all your photos.
One in particular stood out: the "spooky" corridor under the hospital wing. The first door, or rather opening, in the right wall led to the boiler room where I found Lloyd Francke when his legs gave out and he fell against the blistering boiler. I'm sure, all of you who have read "The Mushroom Years" recognized my character Dan as Lloyd -- he was such a special friend...
Thank you again for bringing so many memories back -- Pamela
De: "georgeanna knisely"
<jknisely@paonline.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: ReNicky amd Leopold
Date: mercredi 25 janvier 2006
Nicky and Leopold,
What a lovely trip for us, with you, again to Weihsien/Weifang and the Camp. Thank you again for sharing your trip. But best of all, it was a pleasure to meet you two at the end. Now we can see who we are corresponding with.
Thank you and thank you. I go back and back to your website. And I am not a person to live in the past, but what fun.
So happy you two were able to go!!!!
Blessings, Georgie Reinbrecht Knisely
De: "Nicky & Leopold"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: map
Date: vendredi 27 janvier 2006
Hello,
Hope you get the picture ---
The No.2 Middle Class School map has a slight parallax error but it comes from a picture I took in the museum in one of the two Japanese villas. I superposed Father Verhoeven's map of Weihsien and made a rotation to put the North upwards. I resized it so the two existing Japanese villas coincide and the old block-23 to match the new administrative building.
Any remarks?
Now I will transfer all this on a street map of Weifang I got at the Hotel ---
De: "Ron
Bridge" <rwbridge@freeuk.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: map
Date: vendredi 27 janvier 2006 12:18
Très intéressant.
Aussi, le jardin au nord
de bloc 1
Bien amicalement
Ron
-----
Original Message -----
From: Donald
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006
Subject: Re: map
Leopold
(and Nicky),
A
great map and overlay, but shouldn't the three low buildings in the NE corner
that are being restored also be outlined in red?
Also,
can you provide a map of Weifang that shows precisely where in the present
city the camp is located? That would be helpful in targeting it on Google
Earth.
Donald
-----
Original Message -----
From: Donald
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006
Subject: Re: map
Leopold
& Nicky,
A
second glance makes it look like the Verhoevan map should be
"stretched" a little in the E-W direction so that the diagonal lines
in the SW corner of both maps are aligned.
Donald
De: "Nicky & Leopold" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: map
Date: samedi 28 janvier 2006
Dear Donald,
Just did that !
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/pander/Weifang2006/Slide_Show/02_Weihsien/p_01.htm
click on this link ---
--- then click on the second picture ---
It is the cover of the map we got at the hotel.
- first is the whole city of
- then, a ZOOM on the Weihsien-camp area
- third, the location of No.2 Middle Class School and the Hospital. Mr. Shude helped me for that ---
- 4; a copy/paste of the satellite map found on Google-Earth,
- 5; The 2-map combination of No.2-M-C-S and Father Verhoeven's map. I corrected the red outlines and pointed Eric Liddell's monument.
- 6; A 3-map combination with the actual streets of Weifang. Of course, owing to slight parallax errors --- these combinations are not 100% correct.
When we were driving in Weifang city, at a road crossing, (?), Mr. Shude pointed an old wall visible in the background and said that it was a piece of the Camp's Wall. We didn't see it again later and I didn't take a picture of it. Definitely --- I must go back to investigate --- P.S. Who's next?
All the best,
Leopold
Happy (Chinese) New Year :-))
De: "Nicky & Leopold"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: map
Date: samedi 28 janvier 2006
Dear Donald,
If I stretch in the E-W axis the outlines of the Japanese villas will mismatch.
When I took the picture --- it was not (at
the moment) with the idea of combining the two maps. Maybe the next one of us
to go there will take a picture of No2-M-C-S-map --- directly in front of the frame (to avoid the
parallax error) --- and, if possible: no flash! The best would be for Mr. Shude
to send me a good copy of N0.2
Best regards,
Leopold
PS. As for the "Eric-Liddell-Sport-Field" there is a much better picture in Joyce Bradbury's photos. It was taken from a much higher level. I would have liked to go on the roof of the administrative building and take a series of pictures with a 360°-sweep. Maybe next time :-))
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "Dwight W. Whipple" <thewhipples@comcast.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: map
Date: samedi 28 janvier 2006
Dear Leopold~
Thanks for the masterful pictures of your trip and your work in getting them into such readable form. The superimposed yesteryear map with today's is very helpful. One question about the remembrance wall: does it contain only the names of those who were in the camp at liberation -- and not those who were repatriated in 1943? Couldn't find our names but did find those we knew who remained at the end. Thanks again for your good work.
~Dwight W. Whipple [Block 1, March, 1943 - September, 1943]
-----
Original Message -----
From: Donald
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006
Subject: Re: map
Dwight,
I
also did not find the Wilders, and drew the same inference - that it contained
only those who were there to the end. I wonder if there is any way that
those who were expatriated could be added, if there is room.
Perhaps,
Mary, as our rep on the Executive Committee, you could bring that up at some
time.
Donald
----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Previte
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006
Subject: Names on the memorial
monument
I'll
be happy to ask the Friendship Committee if it is possible to add names of
those who spent any time in Weihsien.
Who
has this list?
Mary
Previte
De: "Tracy Strong" <tstrong@weber.ucsd.edu>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Names on the memorial monument
Date: dimanche 29 janvier 2006
Not on the list, as far as I can tell, are
Robbins and Katherine Strong, missionaries,
Tracy B. Strong
ucsd distinguished
professor
Department of
Political Science - 0521
La
Jolla, CA 92093-0521 USA
Tel.:
858 534 7081/3548
Fax: 858 534 7130
Cell: 619 723 4161
De: "Nicky & Leopold"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Names on the memorial monument
Date: dimanche 29 janvier 2006
Hello, :-))
The Remembrance Wall:
Picture No.358: there is the name "Steven" and the next is: "Talati". That makes 20 missing names.
The full list is on the web-site --- click on this link:
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/RonBridge/habitants/weihsien02.xls
(You need to have Microsoft Excel to read this file --- hope it works!)
Best regards
Leopold
De: "Mary Previte"
<mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: map
Date: mardi 31 janvier 2006 5:44
Donald:
I'm working on the problem of names missing from the monument. My brother
James has discussed it with Mr. Sui.
Our Chinese hosts seem willing to add names,
but want these names to be documented on "official" lists. This is understandable. Greg Leck, who will release in the next few
weeks his new book on Japanese internment camps
in
Greg says he may have as many as 200 names that are not currently on the monument.
Mary Previte
De: "georgeanna knisely"
<jknisely@paonline.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: map
Date: mercredi 1 février 2006
Mary,
What is the name of Greg Leck's book on Concentration Camps? Thanks, Georgie
De: "Mary Previte" <mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Captives of the Empire
Date: mercredi 1 février 2006
Hello, Georgie:
Greg tells me his book will go by the
title, Captives of the Empire. He thinks
it will be out within the next few weeks.
His years of research have taken him to the National Archives in
Extraordinary research!
I think Greg told me the book is 700 pages
with lots of photographs -- but I may have got that figure wrong. It includes all the Japanese internment camps
in
His telephone number is 610-588-2474. He lives in
Mary
De: "Nicky & Leopold"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Cc: "Janette & Pierre @ home"
<pierre.ley@pandora.be>
Objet: Re: Captives of the Empire
Date: mercredi 1 février 2006
hello,
try this link:
http://www.captives-of-empire.com/
super interesting ---
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "georgeanna knisely"
<jknisely@paonline.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Date: jeudi 2 février 2006 13:29
Thank you, Mary! Still hoping you might come my way and we
could have lunch. Do you ever get to my
area and need an overnite. Dilsburg is right off of rt 15 between
De: "Natasha Petersen"
<np57@cox.net>
À: "weihsien"
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: topica
Date: vendredi 3 février 2006 17:58
Dear Zandy,
Now, I am having trouble accessing the website. Something about cookies. My son who is in
In order to subscribe -------send a blank email to Weihsien-subscribe@topica
This will work if you are "off" on the listing. I cannot access it at the present time to check.
I am sending this to the whole list. Zandy let me know if and when you get this message.
Natasha
De: "Edmund Pearson" <tedp@videotron.ca>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: lost data
Date: mardi 7 février 2006
Hi, I had a hard drive crash and lost all the email addresses of those with whom I was in email contact. If any of you still want to keep that connection, please email me at your convenience.
Teddy Pearson
De: "Natasha Petersen"
<np57@cox.net>
À: "weihsien" <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: information
Date: mardi 7 février 2006 20:41
For your information - Please keep
If you find you no longer are getting messages from the Weihsien listing, do the following:
Send a blank email to:
Weihsien-subscribe@topica.com
Follow directions that you should receive. At present I am unable to access our website. I, therefore, do not know who is "off", and I have no way to change this to "on".
Natasha
De: "Natasha Petersen"
<np57@cox.net>
À: "weihsien"
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: verb tense
Date: mercredi 8 février 2006 2:22
The line should read:
When you find that you are no longer receiving Weihsien messages.....................
Natasha
De: "Ron Bridge"
<rwbridge@freeuk.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: verb tense
Date: mercredi 8 février 2006
Natasha,
Nice to know the purities of the English
language are still being upheld west of the
rgds
Ron
De: "Ron Bridge"
<rwbridge@freeuk.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: lost data
Date: mercredi 8 février 2006 13:19
Edmund,
A real pain when that happens, I had Norton Anti virus problems as when I upgraded in November they sent a faulty disc thankfully it is all solved now.
Rgds
De: "Natasha Petersen"
<np57@cox.net>
À: "weihsien"
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: test
Date: samedi 11 février 2006
Zandy,
This is a test message for you. I will send another email to your email address. Let me know whether you receive both email messages.
Natasha
De: "Natasha Petersen"
<np57@cox.net>
À: "weihsien"
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: test
Date: samedi 25 février 2006
I have not been getting any messages for about five weeks. I am unable to access Topica website, and have not been able to get a person at Topica to respond to my email requests of help.
Natasha
De: "Nicky & Leopold"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: test
Date: samedi 25 février 2006
Hello,
Got your message loud and clear ----- :-))
Just checked on Topica at: http://lists.topica.com/lists/weihsien/read
and the last message is from
Real quiet !! for the moment
Leopold
De: "Pamela Masters" <pamela@hendersonhouse.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: test
Date: lundi 27 février 2006
Hi Natasha -- You always come in loud and clear, so does Weihsien Topica. Can't think what's holding up your messages, unless, God forbid, you've got a sneaky little virus having fun with you. Have you had a virus check lately? I've got Norton working overtime, so I feel pretty safe nowadays.
Best love -- Pamela
De: "Nicky & Leopold"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: the web-site-map
Date: lundi 27 février 2006
Hello,
Do you remember the discussion we had about
the Japanese's uniform? The Consular Police's uniform. Well, --- there is
"one" picture in
Have a look at this link:
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/NormanCliff/epilogue/JapGuard/p-JapGuard.htm
--- and there is another picture --
certainly a "big shot" -- also found in
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/NormanCliff/liberationDay/p-group2.htm
The colour --- seems to be dark-blue or black.
---
One question however:
When re-reading the Topica-messages (I print them for Father Hanquet, so I read them twice !!) many of you describe our Japanese captors as nice & helpful guys! Are they not an infinite exception amidst a bunch of ------
???
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "Natasha Petersen"
<np57@cox.net>
À: "weihsien"
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: access
Date: lundi 27 février 2006 18:17
I was receiving email sent to Weihsien. I was not able to access the website in order to check who was "on" and who was "off" The problem was solved by my number one son. The pop-up accepting or not the cookie named........... When the one for Topica popped up, I clicked "Do not accept". My Security System decided that therefore access to the site should be blocked. Apparently, one has to be careful in "not accepting".
Zandy, I am very glad that you are back on the list.
I had wanted to clean up the listing, but I am afraid to do that at this time.
Does anyone remember snow at Weihsien? I remember the bitter cold.
Natasha
De: "Mary Previte" <mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: the web-site-map
Date: lundi 27 février 2006
Hello, Leopold:
The second photograph doesn't show a
Weihsien guard. This photo was given to
me by Weihsien liberator, Tad Nagaki.
It was taken in
Several members of our liberation team left
Weihsien in late August 1945 to start an Office of Strategic Services
(OSS) office in
Mary Previte
De: "Mary Previte" <mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: One man show about Eric Liddell in
Date: lundi 27 février 2006
Hello, Everybody:
A one-man show about Eric Liddell will open
Off Broadway in
I'll update you as more information becomes available.
Mary Previte
-----
Original Message -----
From: Donald
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006
Subject: Re: the web-site-map
Leopold,
Thanks
for the pictures. They're a good addition to the archives.
I
don't think there was ever any question that most, if not all, Weihsien guards
wore dark blue or black uniforms. This is what one would expect, since
all the written texts that discuss it agree that it was consular guards, not
regular army, made up the compound's police force.
The
Smith sketch of a sentry was done after liberation, and it's possible that
things had changed (you know, "the changing of the guard" - hah,
hah), though his article states that the agreement between the American
and Japanese was that they Japanese would "continue" to provide
security to protect the compound from attack. Everything we know about
Smith indicates that he was an accurate observer and reporter, but
he doesn't deal with the question of whether the same guards were being
used as before. Army troops may have replaced the consular guards under
the new regime.
Several
people who were there are certain that at some time least some of the
sentry/guards had the kind of "green" uniform shown in Smith's
sketch, and I for one am not willing to attribute that entirely to false
memory. Several plausible explanations for the different memories have
been offered. Possibly it was the post-liberation guards that are
remembered by some. As you know, I used the Smith sketch in my
"slide show" but also included a note at the end explaining its provenance
and the referring to the dispute over whether it was representative of
conditions before liberation or not.
Thanks
again,
Donald
De: "David Birch" <gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: the web-site-map
Date: lundi 27 février 2006
Donald and Leopold,
I know for certain that the man we children called "King Kong" at Weihsien, the Chief of Police, or as some say 'commandant,' remained at Weihsien Camp during the weeks following the end of the war. I'm pretty sure that he still retained some authority (under the American troops) for making sure things were orderly.
The time I clearly recall this man, after the war was over, was a time when he was engaged in breaking up a commercial transaction (black market) that was taking place over the camp wall between camp residents and local Chinese people.
I was thirteen years old at the time.
David
De: "Greg Leck"
<gregleck@epix.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: the web-site-map
Date: mardi 28 février 2006
I spoke to Ferol Smith, the widow of the artist who painted the picture of the guard in the guard tower.
After I looked at the original print of the painting in the journal, it was apparent to me that the image on Leopold's website had been altered somewhat, perhaps by scanning, fading, or running it through a program such as Photoshop. The "color" of the uniform (this was a black and white image, remember) is definitely darker in the journal version than it appears in the version seen on Leopold's site.
I asked Ferol about this. She told me the original painting, which she has, was done in color, and the uniform is a "very dark blue color."
Greg
De: "Pamela Masters"
<pamela@hendersonhouse.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: the web-site-map
Date: mardi 28 février 2006 3:47
Dear David --
I don't doubt you saw King Kong breaking up a black market transaction, but it would not have been after the camp was liberated because we didn't have a black market then. It wasn't necessary, as we could openly deal with our Chinese friends on the outside. And incidentally, King Kong was never referred to as the commandant as the latter gentleman was a Japanese civilian.
Funny how memory plays tricks on us every once in a while; mine lets me down quite often nowadays -- Pamela
-----
Original Message -----
From: Donald
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006
Subject: RE: the web-site-map
Great work, Greg!
That
pretty much answers the question about Smith's portrait being representative of
pre-liberation conditions. As for the questions about the helmet and
rifle, one would hardly expect a sentry posted in a watchtower to defend
against a possible enemy attack to be put there without a helmet and
rifle, would one?
How
did you manage to get in touch with Smith's widow? Do you live near her?
I
don't know what she plans to do with the original, but that is the sort of
thing that the people in the Weifang government who set up the Weihsien
historical museum on the compound site would love to add to their
collection for display. I'm sure that is a prized possession for her, but
if you are going to see her again you might ask if that could be some day
be possible.
Donald
De: "Joyce Cook"
<bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: One man show about Eric Liddell in
Date: mercredi 1 mars 2006
I remember the snow on the trees as icycles which tingled in the breeze. I also remember it was very cold despite the coal balls. I had no blankets because they were left at home and slept under overcoats and anything else we could find.
It is lovely to think there is a show about Eric Liddell. I have often wondered what happened to his wife and three (three) children. Joyce Bradbury-----
De: "Greg Leck"
<gregleck@epix.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: the web-site-map
Date: mercredi 1 mars 2006
Ferol Smith lives in the next county over. She has already promised her husband's papers and works to a university but I will ask her.
De: "Albert Dezutter"
<albertdezutter@worldnet.att.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: the web-site-map
Date: mercredi 1 mars 2006
To Leopold and other Topica members:
Try as I might to picture our guards at the Weihsien camp in blue and black, my mind refuses the image. So, on behalf of myself and all the others who remembered khaki and olive drab, I paraphrase the words of the little boy in "The Emperor's New Clothes": The empire (in Weihsien) had no (blue-black) clothes!
I notice that those who insist our guards
were "consular police" and that they had black or blue uniforms tend
to be from Chefoo. It may be that in Chefoo when people were first interned
there (if that's what happened) their guards were "consular police"
with blue-black uniforms. However, that was not the case in the Tsingtao
compound where the allies were interned in October (not November, as is stated
on Greg Leck's site) of 1942, and the
During our stay in the Weihsien compound, I had a close encounter with "Sgt. Bushindi," and if anyone should remember him wearing a villainous black outfit, it ought to be me. However, he just looked like an ordinary Japanese Imperial Army sergeant to me.
Another message said "written accounts" refer to consular police, but I have yet to see any such credible accounts with regard to Weihsien. If they exist, I would like to be directed to them. I notice in the letter accompanying Norman Cliff's picture that the man refers to himself as a Japanese "soldier," not a policeman. Also, the letter is not dated, nor is there any information as to when and where the photograph was made.
I had never heard or seen the phrase "consular police" in relation to Weihsien before it cropped up in these e-mails several years ago. But regardless of which branch our guards belonged to, my memory does not include blue or black uniforms.
I won't argue the point any more. Peace to all.
Albert de Zutter
De: "Joyce Cook"
<bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: the web-site-map
Date: jeudi 2 mars 2006
Dear Leopold, Alby and other ex-inmates.
I for one have never described the guards
either at
At
At WeiHsien whilst his wife was actually
giving birth to their child
" .....the Japanese guards barged right into delivery room and
demanded the name of the child to transmit to
They beat him up three times.
According to his wife he never recovered from his mistreatment and died some years later. I have her letter setting out these facts.
The son was in fact referred to as "Artie" and years later was killed in a motor cycle accident.
Joyce Bradbury.
De: "Joyce Cook"
<bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: the web-site-map
Date: jeudi 2 mars 2006
My memory tells me that Sergeant Bushindi was so called because it means "no can do" which was his constant answer to every request. Joyce.
De: "Ron Bridge"
<rwbridge@freeuk.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: the web-site-map
Date: jeudi 2 mars 2006
The guards in
De: "Ron Bridge"
<rwbridge@freeuk.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: the web-site-map
Date: jeudi 2 mars 2006
CAN CONFIRM PAMELAS RECOLLECTIONS.
RGDS RON
De: "Ron Bridge"
<rwbridge@freeuk.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: the web-site-map
Date: jeudi 2 mars 2006
The situation in Weihsien after the war was that the US Army did not have the man power to protect the camp against the possibility of armed attack from the guerrillas and that the Japanese guards retained their rifles to patrol the perimeter, this ploy was common also in the Netherlands East I dies where the British Army kept Japanese other ranks to guard camps from guerrilla attacks.
The authority for this was both memory and
is substantiated by the reports issued by the
Rgds
Ron
De: "Nicky & Leopold"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: the web-site-map
Date: jeudi 2 mars 2006
Dear Joyce, and Weihsien-friends,
Many thanks for your message, ---
The letter you mentioned can also be found with Norman Cliff's documents in the picture-web-site. Go to Norman Cliff/Diary ----
There is another news article in the same chapter I'd like to mention. Written in May, 1946 by a Lieutenant who finaly ends his article by writing that we were delivered by an unarmed Australian group on a humanitarian mission. Of course we all know that this is not correct.
--- ???
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "Albert Dezutter"
<albertdezutter@worldnet.att.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: the web-site-map
Date: jeudi 2 mars 2006
Dear Joyce, Leopold and all Weihsien friends,
I too have never described the guards as
"nice and friendly guys." I too witnessed the torture in the
Albert ("Alby" in the camp) de Zutter
De: "Albert Dezutter" <albertdezutter@worldnet.att.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: the web-site-map
Date: jeudi 2 mars 2006
Joyce, That's what I remember too.
Albert
De: "Ron Bridge"
<rwbridge@freeuk.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: the web-site-map
Date: jeudi 2 mars 2006
First, Sgt Bushindi was called just that as it was the only Chinese words that he knew and not quite as Joyce says it means "No do " ie "Stop it".
The guards in Weihsien were definitely
consular police who had blue black uniforms but also wore Khaki as a summer hot
weather uniform. The main army of occupation in
The Camp at Weihsien was not under the
control of the Japanese Army but under the control of the Greater South East
Asia Co prosperity Sphere Ministry.( See Japanese surrender documents at the
The guards that we started with had been regular Consular police (some of whom had been "exchanged in 1942 as they came under diplomatic protocols) but by 1944 they were conscripted into the Army and moved and the unfit for active service were employed by the Consular Police.
I hope that this clarifies the issue once and for all.
Rgds
De: "Mary Previte" <mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Who has a picture of Hugh Hubbard? in the
Date: vendredi 10 mars 2006
Hello, Everyone,
Does anyone have a photo of ornithologist HUGH HUBBARD? Hugh was one of our Weihsien heroes who inspired many of the boys with his bird walks, bird watching, and guiding their bird watching diaries.
Please read the request below from Bill Einreinhofer, whose documentary, "SO
VERY FAR FROM HOME," on Weihsien and
other Japanese-held civilian camps in
Bill writes: "Back in February I was interviewed by CCTV-9 about "So Very
Far From Home." The producer, Xu Yanqiu, is looking for a picture of Hugh
Hubbard for inclusion in his program."
Please contact me if you can help.
Mary Previte
De: "C. Wayne
Mayhall" <solomon110@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Who has a picture of Hugh Hubbard? in the
Date: samedi 11 mars 2006
Mary,
Go to www.google.com --- Punch in "Hugh Hubbard" into the search engine. Then click "images". Then click "search". You will see a photo of a veteran Hugh Hubbard at a podium. Is this the Hubbard you are looking for?
-----
Original Message -----
From: Donald
Cc:
Gladys
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006
Subject: Re: Who has a picture of Hugh Hubbard? in the
Hugh's
daughter, Gladys Swift, will certainly have a photo of her father.
Donald
-----
Original Message -----
From: Donald
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006
Subject: Re: Who has a picture of Hugh Hubbard? in the
Nice
process, but the wrong Hubbard, I'm sure.
Donald
De: "Nicky & Leopold"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Who has a picture of Hugh Hubbard? in the
Date: samedi 11 mars 2006
Dear Mary,
I had a look on my web-site's search engine and found the word "Hubbard" 21 times --- but unfortunately, no pictures. Maybe you could find a clue for a further research through the 21 answers ---
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "Mary Previte" <mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Who has a picture of Hugh Hubbard? in the
Date: samedi 11 mars 2006
Wrong Hugh Hubbard, I'm afraid.
But I'm delighted you suggested that I look up Hugh Hubbard on a google search. To my delight, I found the speech I gave in Weifang last August, mentioning Hugh Hubbard as one of the heroes of Weihsien.
What a thrill to have Hugh's grand daughter there to hear that tribute to her grandfather!
Mary Previte
De: "Mary Previte" <mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Who has a picture of Hugh Hubbard? in the
Date: dimanche 12 mars 2006
Thank you, Leopold. I'm hoping that Hugh Hubbard's grand daughter may have a photo. She attended last year's reunion in Weifang.
Mary
De: "Natasha Petersen"
<np57@cox.net>
À: "weihsien"
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: for Ron Bridge
Date: vendredi 17 mars 2006 17:11
Ron,
I sent you an email a few days ago rwbridge@freeuk.com
Please let me know whether you received it. Do you have another email address? My email to you should not be posted on Weihsien/topica
Sorry to bother you. I do not know which direction to go.
Natasha
De: "
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: for
Date: vendredi 17 mars 2006 20:45
Natasha,
I responded at 09:19am yesterday to your own e-mail the answer is that it is absolutely genuine over 500 have had it already.
Ron
De: "Mary Previte" <mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: A. Lambert, age 17
Date: lundi 20 mars 2006
Can someone tell me the first name of a 17-year-old male -- A. Lambert -- listed in the 1944 Weihsien prisoner list? I'm guessing he may be a brother of Angela Lambert.
Mary Previte
De: "Joyce Cook"
<bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: A. Lambert, age 17
Date: lundi 20 mars 2006 5:56
Dear Mary. A. Lambert is Anthony Lambert known as "Tony" He was half brother to Des Power. I do not remember Angela Lambert but there was a "Betty" Lambert, a dancer who was Tony's younger sister. Joyce Bradbury.
De: "Fred & Coral Dreggs"
<cadreggs@optusnet.com.au>
À: "Ex Internees" <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: A. Lambert age 17
Date: lundi 20 mars 2006
Dear Mary
As Joyce has said, A. Lambert was
"Tony." As a matter of interest, he, Desmond Power and I shared a
flat in
Referring to 'Betty' Lambert that was her nickname. Her given name was "Angela". I remember her well.
Regards
Alfie(aka Fred)
De: "Ron Bridge"
<rwbridge@freeuk.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: A. Lambert age 17
Date: lundi 20 mars 2006 17:54
Anthony Lambert dob 18Mar27 and Angela" Betty" Lambert dob 17Jul30 were the children of Grace Mary Lambert b London UK 21Nov96 who worked as a Secretary at the Hong Kong Songhai Bank Victoria Road ( Now Che Fang Bei Lu) Tientsin they were travelling into Weihsien on British Passport No C42106 issued at Tientsin in 1938.
Rgds
Ron
De: "Mary Previte" <mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: A. Lambert age 17
Date: lundi 20 mars 2006
Thank you so much, Ron. You give us such amazing access to Weihsien data.
Bless you!
Mary Previte
De: "Mary Previte" <mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: A. Lambert age 17
Date: lundi 20 mars 2006
Thank you, Alfie.
Is he still living? And if so, where can he be contacted?
MARY PREVITE
De: "Martin Liddy" <mliddy@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Cc: <mliddy@yahoo.com>
Objet: John Hersey's The Call, Sister Catherine (?), Ruth A. brack.
Date: mardi 28 mars 2006
I am trying to determine the identities of "Sister Catherine," a character in John Hersey's The Call.
Sister Catherine is described on page 610 of The Call as having been
born in
John Hersey lists a s a primary source of The Call, the manuscript of Ruth A. Brack, a prisoner at Weihsien. I have examined a copy of this manuscript and determined that Ruth A. Brack was an American nurse with Presbyterian Mission North. There is no mention of a "Sister Catherine" in this document. However, many of the activities of camp life noted by Ruth A. brack are incorporated into the novel.
Did Sister Catherine exist? Was she a real person? Was she entirely fictional? Would anyone have any knowledge about her.
I appreciate your help in this matter.
Marty Liddy
De: "Mary Previte" <mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: John Hersey's The Call, Sister Catherine (?), Ruth A. brack.
Date: mercredi 29 mars 2006
Could it be Sister Hiltrudis?
Mary Previte
De: "Joyce Cook"
<bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: John Hersey's The Call, Sister Catherine (?), Ruth A. brack.
Date: mercredi 29 mars 2006
Sister Hiltrudis taught me maths at St
Josephs Middle School for girls at
De: "Martin Liddy" <mliddy@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: John Hersey's The Call, Sister Catherine (?), Ruth A. brack.
Date: mercredi 29 mars 2006
Sister Catherine was nun-nurse. SisterHitrudis per Joyce Cooktaught math.
Marty Liddy
De: "Tracy Strong" <tstrong@weber.ucsd.edu>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: John Hersey's The Call, Sister Catherine (?), Ruth A. brack.
Date: mercredi 29 mars 2006
It is of course likely that Hersey developed the Sister Catherine character as we know he did with most other characters in that wonderful book from a composite of several individuals.
Having been but a babe in arms (actually a basket) in Weihsien I am deeply grateful to all of you for providing these windows onto this time.
Best,
Tracy B. Strong
-----
Original Message -----
From:
"Donald" <dmenzi@earthlink.net>
To:
"weihsien" <weihsien@topica.com>
Sent:
Thursday, March 30, 2006
Subject:
Copies of
Fr. Scanlan's book
> Hello, all,
>
> Some months ago I emailed the group that I have two extra copies of Fr.
Scanlan's biography, Stars in the Sky. You will remember that was the
chief organizer of the Weihsien "black market." Two of you
responded that you would like me to send you a copy, but I've lost my notes on
your addresses. If the two of you who asked for copies will remind me of
who you are and re-send your address I will put one in the mail to you.
>
> Donald
>
De: "Ron Bridge"
<rwbridge@freeuk.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Copies of Fr. Scanlan's book
Date: jeudi 30 mars 2006
Donald,
I tried to get in on your generosity, Then tried to get a copy myself from Abe Books and others with no success.
If you have not got the two taken up I wopuld very much like one.
The Address
R W Bridge
Chillies Oast
Chillies Lane
Crowborough
TN6 3TB
I would really like to see it thus an alternative solution is if you could mail it to me and I will then re mail it to the lucky guy(girl) that got in first.
Rgds
De: "Albert Dezutter"
<albertdezutter@worldnet.att.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: John Hersey's The Call, Sister Catherine (?), Ruth A. brack.
Date: vendredi 31 mars 2006
There is a motherhouse in
All of those sisters were from
Like Joyce, I was taught mathematics by Sister Hiltrudis -- Joyce in
I also attended the
Sister Hiltrudis also taught in the
Sister Verna at the
I don't personally remember any nuns from the interior at the Weihsien camp. I do remember a Sister Bede, who was from a different order of nuns than the ones I have mentioned so far. She taught 5th or 6th grade in the camp. The grades (forms you those of you familiar with the British system) apparently didn't mean a lot in the camp. With almost individual instruction, children (other than in the Chefoo school, of which I know nothing), went at their own pace. I had completed a year of high school before turning 13. Normally a person doesn't enter high school in the American system until after 14.
I have not read John Hersey's book, but my guess is that the character he describes is a composite. There were a lot of Catholic priests during the first six months of the camp who had been in the interior, learned the Chinese language and dressed in the Chinese manner. They were American, Canadian, Dutch and Belgian. The best known priest to this company is, of course, the Belgian Emmanuel Hanquet, who was a particular friend of our family of four, the assistant Scout Master for the general population kids and the French tutor for my brother, John and myself. Our family consisted of my father Jean (French rendition of John), my mother Olga, my brother John and myself.
It was my great privilege to see Father Hanquet again during our year of
residence in
As we parted that night at my hotel, his last words to me were, "See you in heaven." Of course, he is not there yet, so he may yet say another word, which I hope will be equally auspicious.
Albert de Zutter
De: "David Birch" <gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: John Hersey's The Call, Sister Catherine (?), Ruth A. brack.
Date: vendredi 31 mars 2006
I was a Chefoo boy and a Protestant so I was never close to the Roman Catholic priests and nuns. But I distinctly recall SISTER EUSTELLA! She was such a friendly person and had the sweetest smile!
David Birch
De: "Dwight W. Whipple"
<thewhipples@comcast.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: John Hersey's The Call, Sister Catherine (?), Ruth A. brack.
Date: vendredi 31 mars 2006
The other sister was Sister Donatella. I was six years old when we entered Weihsien camp on March 20, 1943 and had my seventh birthday in July. I well remember both Sister Donatella and Sister Blanda who taught our age group. It was a wonderful foundation for my school years and I had no trouble integrating into both American and Canadian schools when we returned home. Seeing these names again brings back a flood of memories.
~Dwight W. Whipple
De: "Greg Leck"
<gregleck@epix.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: John Hersey's The Call, Sister Catherine (?), Ruth A. brack.
Date: vendredi 31 mars 2006
Bush, Gertrude J, known as Sister Eustella, born 1899, in camp until the end
of the war.
School Sisters of St. Francis,
Johns, Helen M, known as Sister Blanda,
born 1903, repatriated to the
1943.
School Sisters of St. Francis,
Kappes, Maria K, known as Sister Hiltrudis, born 1897, in camp until the end
of the war.
School Sisters of St. Francis,
Lorenz, Gertrude, known as Sister Donatilla, born 1904, repatriated to the
Vassen, Ruth, known as Sister Mary Venna,
born 1915, repatriated to the
in 1943.
School Sisters of St. Francis,
Though the sisters were apparently members
of the School Sisters of St. Francis, their residences in the
Ruth A. Brack was NOT interned in
Weihsien. Her report is dated 1942, before
internment began. She was repatriated to
the
Sister Bede was Angeline Brielmaier, an
American, who was a member of the St. Francis of
In addition to Ruth Brack's account, I have read unpublished accounts by Sister Eustella and Sister Hiltrudis.
De: "Ron Bridge" <rwbridge@freeuk.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: John Hersey's The Call, Sister Catherine (?), Ruth A. brack.
Date: vendredi 31 mars 2006 11:55
Dear all,
it would be better if anyone has a query re the name of an inmate that they ask Greg Leck or myself if they are in doubt. Most of the names are on Leopold’s Web site anyway thus consulting that should solve the problem before it arises.
Rgds
Ron
De: "Donald"
<dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Copies of Fr. Scanlan's book
Date: vendredi 31 mars 2006 20:42
Ron,
You are what is known in a different context as the "first responder" so you get a copy all to yourself.
It's especially interesting where he describes incidents like his imprisonment that are also reported by other people. It shows how word-of-mouth reports improve on history to make it a better or easier to remember story.
Best regards,
Donald
De: "Ron Bridge"
<rwbridge@freeuk.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Copies of Fr. Scanlan's book
Date: vendredi 31 mars 2006 23:40
Donald,
Thanks very much.I'll look forward to the post
Rgds
Ron
PS my own e-mail rwbridge@freeuk.com
De: "Christine Talbot Sancton"
<sancton@nbnet.nb.ca>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Copies of Fr. Scanlan's book
Date: samedi 1 avril 2006 14:13
Dear Donald: what is the title of Fr Scanlon's book? I would like to see if I can find it too.
Fr Scanlon made a deep impression on my mother, Ida Talbot, as he must have on all whom he came in contact with in Camp. I grew up with the story he told early in Camp of his life and also of his courage and humour he showed in Camp. He must have been quite a person.
It is a shame that we didn't know that he
was living in the
The miracle of the internet and of this Topica site!
regards, Christine Talbot Sancton
De: "Natasha Petersen"
<np57@cox.net>
À: "weihsien"
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Old
Date: samedi 1 avril 2006 15:09
Greck Leck, I understand that you are doing
a presentation in September in
Thanks,
Natasha
De: "Alison Holmes"
<aholmes@prescott.edu>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Father Scanlon's book
Date: samedi 1 avril 2006 15:30
So now we are all having our interest piqued, especially when we hear that we have re-written history and that Father Scanlon's book would be a good corrective! Is it at all possible for you to photo-copy it for those of us who are not first responders? I would be more than happy to pay for copying costs, postage and handling, to get a copy of this to add to my small Chefoo/Weihsien collection. Is that possible at all, Donald? Thanks so much for even thinking of doing it...........Alison Holmes
De: "Nicky & Leopold" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Father Scanlon's book
Date: samedi 1 avril 2006 16:16
Hello,
The whole book is --- 348 pages written "small" !
However, you can find the Weihsien-Chapter by clicking on this link:
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/Scanlan/Book/txt_Scanlan.htm
best regards,
Leopold
De: "Dwight W. Whipple"
<thewhipples@comcast.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Old
Date: samedi 1 avril 2006 18:49
If that's
~Dwight W. Whipple
De: "Greg Leck"
<gregleck@epix.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Old
Date: samedi 1 avril 2006 22:03
Ex Shanghailander Edward Immergluck is in charge of the reunion.
It is being held in
The general public is invited, but
obviously it would be of most interest to those who lived in
I attended in 1998, 2000, and 2002 and met many who were held in various camps. The most recent reunion, however, had less ex internees, though children and grandchildren of OCHers were attending in larger numbers.
You can contact Ed Immergluck at:
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: Father Scanlon's book
Alison,
Leopold
has already done almost all the work for us. All you have to do is go to
the Weihsien chapter of Fr. Scanlan's book (Stars in the Sky) on his
weihsien-pictures.org site, and either read it on line or download it and print
it out for your collection.
Well!
- I see that he has sent us all the link address in an email, so you just
have to click on the link in his email to get to the chapter.
Among
the most interesting differences from what was re-told are the circumstances
that led to his early release from imprisonment - somewhat different in
his account from what I had read in others or heard from my grandmother.
The differences are in the details, not in the general
"plot."
His
portrait of the commandant is also interesting. He says he heard later
that the commandant was a Christian, though that isn't confirmed by anyone
else. Does anyone have any information on that?
Donald
De: "Natasha Petersen"
<np57@cox.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Old
Date: samedi 1 avril 2006 23:36
Thank you Greg. I have already heard from Ed. He will be sending me a more detailed information email in a week or so. I will be forwarding it to the Weihsien list.
Natasha
De: "georgeanna knisely" <jknisely@paonline.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Father Scanlon's book
Date: dimanche 2 avril 2006 0:15
I am with Allison, I would be thrilled to death to get this. Father Scanlon is one of those legends from camp that I mention when ever I speak about stories from camp. IF it is out of print, then it is okay.
VERY interested, Donald.
Georgie Reinbrecht Knisely
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: Father Scanlon's book
Georgianna,
I
will check on additional copies available from other sources, but in the mean
time, do go to Leopold's site and get the Weihsien chapter.
Donald
De: "Nicky & Leopold" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: from Father Hanquet
Date: lundi 3 avril 2006 14:49
April 3.06
MESSAGE de E. HANQUET :
"Encore un chaleureux merci pour votre accueil si aimable vendredi
dernier.
Peux-tu envoyer le message suivant à Albert de zutter through internet à
weihsein@topica.com
:
Dear
Alby ( let me still call you that way) ; I must thank you for your recent
communication to weihsein@ topica.com, telling more about our past relations,
when we were in camp. I am almost 91 now ( on june 15) but still able to read
and write, walk with a stick and say mass every morning for some neighbours (
10. 16 people every day)
Almost
every month I meet Leopold Pander who visits me to bring the up-to-date messages
from weihsein@topicacom .
Yesterday,
30/03 I was their host in their nice home, around 10km from here.
Since
I decided to stop driving a car, he came friendly to Louvain-la-Neuve to pick
me up. Through his good car and perfect search I was kept informed about all
the friends corresponding on weihsein@topica.com
Very
friendly to you and freinds from Topica .
Father
E. Hanquet ."
De: "Mary Previte" <mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: from Father Hanquet
Date: mardi 4 avril 2006 21:43
Father Hanquet:
Please keep adding messages on our Weihsien topica network.
How did life in Weihsien affect the way you conducted religious services or activities there? How did confinement affect your faith?
Mary Previte
De: "Mary Previte" <mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Father Scanlon's book
Date: mardi 4 avril 2006 23:56
Thank you, Leopold, for giving us easy access to Father Scanlon's chapter about internment in Weihsien.
What a fascinating account! I love reading Father Scanlon's exploits in his own words.
When I read Father Scanlon's and Langdon
Gilkey's accounts (
COMPOUND) of the amazing structure Weihsien internees established to turn chaos into order, I feel downright angry at observations that claim that this order and structure empowered the Japanese to control us.
What would Weihsien have been like without the order and structure internee committees established inside those barrier walls topped with electrified wires?
Order and structure empower children and grownups to feel safe.
Mary Previte
De: "Dwight W. Whipple"
<thewhipples@comcast.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Father Scanlon's book
Date: mercredi 5 avril 2006 0:54
Yes, I echo Mary's comments re: Fr.
Scanlon's and Professor Gilkey's accounts.
It has been a long time since I read Langdon Gilkey's work but as I
remember it he credited the business community with taking the lead in
organization -- and implied that professional people sat back and let them but
certainly cooperated with the emerging leadership. I know that our own family was involved, my
uncle, Nathan Walton, taking a large responsibility during the six months we
were there [prior to repatriation]. I
suspect that each observer will have a little different perspective. We children have often remarked that the
years of internment, both in
~Dwight W. Whipple
De: "Tracy Strong" <tstrong@weber.ucsd.edu>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Cc: "'Jeanne Strong'"
<strongjr@whidbey.com>; "'John Strong'"
<jstrong@abacus.bates.edu>
Objet: question about the community spirit prompted by Mary Previte
Date: mercredi 5 avril 2006 4:24
Dear all -
My father, Robbins Strong, once remarked to me that one of the striking things about the Weihsien camp was that when they (i.e. you) tried to enforce a version of a "if you slack off you get less" policy (as there must have been some goldbrickers) all spirit of community disappeared and that the spirit of community depended to some degree on the willingness of all to support those who did less.
Does this correspond to any or your experience?
With all best wishes,
Tracy B. Strong
De: "Nicky & Leopold" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Father Scanlon's book
Date: mercredi 5 avril 2006 14:10
Dear Mary,
Father Scanlan is often mentioned on our Topica-chat-list and also on my web-site. There is a mini-search-engine on the home page --- you can click on that. Then, you just enter "scanlan" --- and see what you get. I got 28 answers :-))
Best regards,
Leopold
From: Raymond Moore
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:31 AM
Subject: Chinese newspaper
article
Hello
everyone!
I
do enjoy the snippets and discussion on our Weihsien network.
My
brother Frank has lived in
While
in
*************************
Freedom – August 17th, 1945
“In the memories of the more than 1500 prisoners of the Le Dao Yuan
Concentration Camp in the Wei county (now
This is the beginning of Miss
Delmay’s article entitled ‘A Description of the Experience in the Wei County
Concentration Camp’. In that year she was 12 years old. She had been three
years in the prison with her sister and two brothers. This was the time that
had elapsed from being taken into custody
by the Japanese soldiers to being saved. The surrender of
Brutality Concentration Camp
December 7th, 1941 the Japanese Airforce made a surprise
attack on
December 8th, 1941 a small team of Japanese military police
and a squadron of a puppet army lead by Captain Tang Ben surrounded LeDaoyuan
and claimed it as a concentration camp. On that day an 18 year old nurse, Wei
Xifang was on her way home when she saw the military police. She was frightened
and turned to run away but Tang Ben saw that she was young and beautiful and he
had bad thoughts and caught the girl and raped her in broad daylight. Later he
forced the girl to live with him for a very long time.
An old man from
Once the camp was set up the Japanese senior police replaced the guard
of military police. They called the camp………..( C.A.C). The residents called it
the Foreign People’s Concentration Camp.
Groups of foreign people were sent here including Jiang Jie Shi’s
former adviser, the American – Lei Zhenyuan, the President of the Theological
College of North China – Dr Hers, the Dean of Studies of Qi Lu University – Mr
Davis, Fu Ren University’s teacher Heng An Shi
and the 400 metre champion of the 1924 Olympic Games – Eric Lidell.
There was also 327 students who were children of foreign people from a foreign
school who were confined in the compound. There were more than 1500 American
and British people imprisoned in this camp.
Delmay recalls: “I remember a day in November in the year 1942. We were
escorted by Japanese soldiers to a place three miles away from the city. This
was where we were first kept…after 10 months had passed we were put into a ship
and stuffed together like matches in a box. We got to the Wei county via the
Splendid, bitter life in Le Dao Yuan. After the concentration camp had
been set up but the three words ‘Le Dao Yuan’ were still on the large board
over the gate. The Japanese soldiers built this ‘Realm of Happiness’ with
bayonets and dogs but the 1500 Americans and British spent 1000 days of hard
life there. The Japanese called the concentration camp a living place but the
rules there were just the same as a military camp. In the morning when the bell
rang all the prisoners would get up quickly and wash and dress and then gather
on the parade ground. We stood in six rows according to the hut we lived in.
The guard would call the roll and the prisoners would answer in Japanese one by
one. This was the most important event of the whole day and was never delayed
by wind or rain. In the book The Concentration Camp of Wei County, it says:
‘The morning roll call was the
never-failing activity of the concentration camp. After the bell rang all the
prisoners would gather on the parade ground. They lined up in six separate
groups. Each group had its regular place and each person held a number board in
front of him or her. Each person had to say their number in turn. The guards
would check and if no one was absent the bell would be rung and the prisoners
dismissed. During the day were classes and labouring activities. Everyone had
to labour for the concentration camp according to his or her skills and
knowledge. Everybody would do many different jobs. The students also had to
labour out of class. After supper there was time for activities and evening
prayers. When the bell rang for bed-time everybody had to go immediately to
their room and go to bed at once. They were forbidden to stay outside or in
another room. In the dormitories there was only 18 inches between beds.
Snoring, hiccupping and the sounds of urinating were the music of the night.
For the adults the inability to keep a secret or have a secret was the most
troublesome deprivation. Most of the adults were deeply troubled that the war
would never end. There were also the ones who hated the Japanese for their
brutal behaviour and the humiliation and suffering they had experienced early
in the war. But for the children the war was nothing but having classes and meetings
and outdoor activities and games. We believed that the teachers would solve all
the problems and if they couldn’t – God would! Many years later Mrs Karl, who
had been the Headmistress of the Primary School in the camp wrote:
“I was not afraid of the Japanese
soldiers nor of being detained at that time. To worry about the future was of
no benefit to oneself nor would it change the facts. I would often feel during
the day as if I was facing the end of my life. Would I be forced to dig a grave
for myself and be buried here? Then I would pray for the younger generation.”
Miss Delmay was deeply moved by Miss
Karl’s spirit of devotion and belief in God.
It’s said that the children never felt frightened when they saw the
Japanese soldiers doing bayonet practice. Long after the children themselves
couldn’t understand their former attitude.
In the children’s
memories Uncle Eric ‘Li Da’ was their
closest friend. It was Uncle Eric who gave them endless happiness during these
hard days. It is not necessary to say that the experience of suffering and
sorrow can never be fully expressed. We overcame most things by inventing
activities such as on Saturday was ‘Killing Flies Day’. Our weapon was a knife
and we searched everywhere and tried our best to kill as many flies as
possible. Too many flies made people panic because of the threat of disease. So
we were organized to kill flies. Little John was the most successful with 3,500
flies to his credit. He counted them and put them all into a bottle. He won the
first prize. The prize was a box of food from the Red Cross food parcels. These
activities were usually organized by Uncle Eric. He also encouraged us everyday
to do exercises on the parade ground to keep healthy. This surprised others.
There was a question at that time – should malnourished people do exercises?
Some doctors in the
In February,
1945 in cold and snowy weather Li Da died of a tumour. The campers were very
sad especially the children. A lot of people were choked up with sobbing and
tears. A guard of honour was organized to show respect and sorrow. His good
friends carried him to the small graveyard set aside by the Japanese soldiers
and buried him.
‘They shall
mount up with wings as eagles,
They shall run
and not be weary.’
There is a small plot of land with thick grass near the north wall of
the No 2 Middle School in Weifang city of
De: "Mary Previte"
<mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Chinese newspaper article
Date: jeudi 6 avril 2006 14:24
Hello, Everyone:
I'm responding to Ray's contribution of a translation of a story about
Weihsien that appeared in a newspaper somewhere in
Portions of this story attributed to "Miss Delmay" seem to come from my magazine article, "SONG OF SALVATION AT WEIHSIEN OPRISON CAMP." That account appeared as the cover story of The Philadelphia Inquirer Magazine, August 25, 1985, to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the ending of World War II. By the way, that story is available on Leopold's wonderful Weihsien web site.
The story is also available in
But huge portions attributed to Miss Delmay in this translation have no resemblance to my account. It is wildly embellished with "facts" I know nothing about.
"Miss Karl" definitely refers to Miss Carr, the principal of the
My Chinese name is Dai Ai Mai -- perhaps a tiny resemblance to Delmay.
Did you play the game of "gossip" or "telephone" when you were a child? Someone starts a whispered sentence which passes from person to person around a circle. By the time the sentence gets around the circle, it has little resemblance to the original. Reading this account from Ray reminded me of that game.
Mary Tayor Previte
De: "Ron Bridge"
<rwbridge@freeuk.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Copies of Fr. Scanlan's book
Date: vendredi 7 avril 2006 12:46
Donald,
Many thanks for Fr Scanlon's book which arrived today, I am gong to read it with pleasure I am sure.
Do I owe you anything?
Rgds
Ron
De: "Mary Previte" <mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet:
Date: samedi 8 avril 2006 10:45
Go to _http://fireoffbroadway.com/_ (http://fireoffbroadway.com/) for a full outline of performances for the OFF BROADWAY show about Eric Liddell.
BEYOND THE CHARIOTS starts next week in
Mary Previte
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 5:57 PM
Subject: Re:
Thanks,
Mary. We'll be sure to see it.
Donald
and Jane
De: "Natasha Petersen"
<np57@cox.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re:
Date: dimanche 9 avril 2006 13:40
Donald and Jane,
I am looking forward to reading your review on the Off Broadway show about Eric Liddell.
Natasha
De: "Donald"
<dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À: "weihsien"
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: A letter from Hugh Hubbard
Date: lundi 10 avril 2006 2:48
Hello, all,
Since many of you remember Hugh Hubbard
from Weihsien, I thought you might be interested in reading a journal-letter
that he wrote during the six months after the 1937 Japanese invasion of
This is a good reminder of the kind of thing that happens in wartime to the civilians in occupied territory. There are hints of the difficulty of controlling soldiers by civilian occupying authorities and officers, who may themselves be decent people and disapprove of murder, looting, rape, etc.
Donald
THE
OBERLIN TIMES
Hugh
Hubbard Writes Of Chinese Conditions
A second letter, in
diary form, written by Hugh W. Hubbard, who is now in
Following are excerpts from the letter:
Oct. 13.
One deep impression is that of the complete evacuation of all teachers and students. Every teacher gone from Tunghsen (our mission school) except one teacher of classical Chinese. The same is apparently true of every school in town, and this is a great educational center with a student population of about 7,000, in middle schools and higher. How in the world will we get on without these intellectual leaders? In church and reconstruction it means that the need and value of missionaries will be greater than it has been at any time in my day.
Yesterday and today the airplanes went back and forth to the front in almost ceaseless procession, apparently coming from Tienstsin and going towards Shih C’hia Chuang. There is a rumor abroad that Shih C’hia Chuang has been taken and it seems likely. One retreating Chinese soldier stopped to talk to our evangelist Wang Tzu Ming. “What can we do?” he said. “First they come with bombers and bomb us. Then more airplanes machine-gun us. Then an army of tanks run over us. Then comes the cavalry and back of them the infantry, which we seldom get a shot at with our only, weapons, our rifles.”
Our church is full of soldiers and as I wrote the above, I was asked to go over with them and ask the commanding officer to get the soldiers out of the people’s homes around here so that they could go home. Also to try to get them to go easy on our furniture. One band of soldiers who occupied the church started to burn benches, smashed pictures and made a general mess of things. Another earlier bunch behaved very well, never went into the church, sealed it up, cleaned up the yard before leaving and went out of their way to be friendly, even making a contribution to the refugees here. The present commander did not invite us to sit, but assured us that he would keep order and would not allow his soldiers to harm the people.
The Romanist cathedral was bombed and has daylight through its roof. The premises were hit a number of times.
Went over the Presbyterian residences with Bill Cochran and studied the effect of shell fire. Merwin’s house was the worst, the roof having been hit at the cross-section of the ridge and smashing a huge hole through, fragments of the shell going through the upper story down into the living and dining rooms into the floors and furniture. The dining room table has a neat hole as a souvenir. The Leete’s piano loaned them was untouched. I later saw that a smaller shell had exploded in Cochran’s kitchen, pitting up walls and ceiling badly. Three others hit his servants’ quarters. Every window broken. Shells missed the Cochran and Mackey house by about six feet, but tore up the sides badly. One struck Whallon’s study. Another exploded in the women’s hospital hostel and killed and wounded several refugees. One of the wounded was the faithful fellow with the big goiter who had I been their postman so long. The shell that went through the church wall near the pulpit would have killed scores of the 40 refugees inside had it exploded. The American flag on the men’s hospital had two holes in it, but the hospital seemed untouched. Many of the fine trees in the compound have great branches lopped off. Three Chinese soldiers came running thru a hole in the back wall and were killed by an exploding shell just back of the Cunningham house.
In a village to the north of the city a general massacre occurred in which, it was variously estimated, from 300 to 700 civilians were killed.
On Sept. 22nd 1
took the boat at
Our house still has refugees in it, the Niehs occupying our parlor, Chang Ch’unho’s mother in the dining room and a family in the cellar. The Su Chieh-ch’en’s were in this office, but left for the south and I have moved out their bedding and occupied it myself.
Chiang Kai Shek broadcast Saturday night, saying that great sacrifices were being made for the nation, but they were not a tenth of what must be made before we are through. He then said that what we all need is the sacrificial spirit of Jesus.
As a missionary, I
have a great sense of defeat. It seemed
that we were so near to making of
Oct. 15.
Today there seem to be more people daring to appear in the city. There are always some straggling in from the South. They are carefully searched at the city gates. Mostly old men and women and children. Young men and women are conspicuous by their absence.
First mail delivery yesterday! It comes by carrier down the railroad and takes five days. I called at the P. 0. and found a subordinate in charge, gradually beginning to reorganize. Five cent stamps on sale in small quantity.
A section of the city at the crossroads of the West and North streets was burnt out. Some of the firemen put it out, but were mistaken by the Japs for soldiers and when they took refuge in the Commercial Guild, they and all the staff of the guild, were shot or bayoneted, including one or two prominent merchants. This is the origin of the report I gave about the chamber of commerce. Actually over 20 were killed there. About 25 shops seemed to have burned.
Two babies were born on the compound last night and one tonight making a total of 10 among our refugees.
Oct. 17.
Up at six today to
see some refugees off to
Fan Village was largely deserted, none of the important leaders daring to stay. Only a few men and two old women were around. Every house and room was said to be thoroughly looted and this was certainly true of the half dozen we went through. The restaurant where we usually eat was cleared out. I met the owner as I came out and greeted him and said, “They looted your shop, too.” “Yes, they cleaned me out” he said, laughing as though it were a huge joke. I certainly envy these Chinese their ability to laugh at misfortune.
We found
everywhere the sure signs of Japanese occupation – empty wine bottles, Japanese
saki, cases of which seem to be on every train and every station platform
between here and
We went to our village residence where Mabel and I have lived, and found it had been treated as the other places.
Oct. 18.
A beautiful full moon sheds its beams upon us tonight and everything seems so quiet and peaceful that it is hard to realize what a business men are making of this wonderful world given us to live in.
A message came
early this morning from
Some Jap soldiers came to church yesterday at the Presbyterians’ and said they were Christians and that there were a good many more in town! We received a contribution of 160 bags of damaged flour yesterday for our refugees out of the 10,000 or more left in our school by the Chinese army and taken care of by us. This will help feed the penniless, but if we have to keep them on we will be needing thousands of dollars. These people have many of them lost all they had of food, clothing and belongings and winter is coming on. What can we do with them? I believe that 380 were yesterday on the relief roll out of the thousand or more on the compound.
Oct. 22.
I went in to a busy market – now deserted – to see what had happened to our Christian Union Bookstore. A bomb had made a large gap in the bazaar wall right opposite and looters had been busy. Fortunately, they were not much interested in our Christian literature and other stores offered greater attractions. However, pens and pencils and stationery had disappeared, some being spilled on the floor and in the street and heaps of books lay in confusion. I got half a dozen refugees to volunteer to rebuild the broken wall and a watchman is now on the job. The last looters are said to be the local riffraff, who take what is left after soldiers skim off the cream. I am inclined to believe that there is no looting by any Japanese soldiers in the city now. In fact, they are pretty well kept out of the city, thanks to their authorities.
Oct. 24.
Our church looks somewhat the worse for wear. The steps leading up to the pulpit platform were burnt for firewood. The clock was smashed, as were the pictures of Christ, or at least one smashed and the other removed. The pulpit has two long scrolls behind it with religious sentiments on them and one of these was torn and mutilated. The pulpit itself has parts missing to the decorations in the form of crosses. Most of the benches survived, although some made firewood also.
Oct. 25.
Haueh-t’ung (our servant) went out of the compound and was stopped and searched in the south suburb and $2.70 taken from him. He says that these soldiers stood under the entrance to the suburb and searched everyone that looked better than a beggar. As soon as money was found and taken, the victims were sent gruffly on their way. Another man was threatened with a bayonet and robbed in front of our gate and a few steps away a number were similarly treated. Soldiers have now been billeted in the villages to the south of us.
On the other hand, we had a visit from the head of the Japanese civil office, who seems to be sincerely trying to put a stop to this lawlessness, but who admits that he has no authority over the military. He asked us for our frank statements of instances of misbehavior, which were given him. Let us hope that he succeeds in getting the military authorities to control their soldiers. But if they misbehave here under the nose of the authorities, what will they not do in the villages?
Just heard today that P’an Ench’ing, one of our Christians and for years manager of our bookstore, committed suicide by jumping into a well, rather than face the torture of the Japs who were looking for him because his son-in-law is an officer in the Chinese army. Poor mild P’an, who never hurt a fly!
The Peiping Chronicle comes quite regularly now, arriving six days after publication.
The city streets are quite full of people and more shops beginning to open. Some do business only through a window. One salt shop at the end of the bridge in our south suburb has been doing business through the window some days, but was today forced open by Jap soldiers at about the close of business and money was demanded. However, the money had been hustled out the back door as they were trying to get in the front. Disappointed, one of the soldiers lunged with his bayonet at the man in charge, but the latter dodged and got off with only a slight cut in the neck.
Oct. 29.
Conditions do not improve as rapidly as we might hope.
Yesterday I took a trip out to four villages. Here is a sample of the kind of story I heard. These gendarmes came out to Yao Chia Chung for cabbage. They chose the best heads and told the farmers to weigh them. The farmers said, “Never mind weighing. Help yourselves.” No, they must be weighed and paid for. So the farmers weighed them, then were made to carry them to headquarters, where a receipt was made out for $20, the amount due. One farmer receipted with his thumb print and received the $20. They were then dismissed, but a soldier followed them out and presently demanded the $20. It was handed over, of course, and he graciously gave them 40 cents, thus making only $19.60 by the transaction.
Another typical story from the same village, as told me by an old farmer: “Two soldiers came into my yard and said something which I could not understand. How can we understand their language? Then one poked me with his bayonet in the ribs and pointed at my chickens. I hurried to catch them, but it was not easy. ‘Bang’ went his gun and my dog fell dead. He made me catch all six. Then he pointed to the pig pen and I knew he wanted pig. I had to get down into the pit and wade in the filth, trying to catch a pig, not a simple job. You’d think that if I gave him one of my two pigs it would be enough. But no, he threatened me again and I had to catch the second. Then I had to tie them on a wheel barrow and take them to their camp. As we left my yard, ‘Bang,’ and my other dog was dead. I had to skin the pigs for them and they let the skin and the head, which they did not want.”
This is what the Japanese in
Excerpts from
dispatches from
By Shoji Takishima, Paoting, Sept. 26: “Outside the walls many Chinese are returning to their homes and a special corps is going to take good care of the distressed Chinese, putting the city in good order.”
By Shigeru Sato, Paoting, Sept. 29: “An animated atmosphere is now fast brewing in and out of Paoting, although the city was pillaged by the lawless Chinese troops. Reconstruction of the city has already been started with the citizens relieved of fear and terror by the entry of the Japanese troops.”
Nov. 1.
Have been trying for several days to organize classes for the refugees and others who might care to study. Committees and sub-committees have been meeting and we finally have a set-up which covers everything from kindergarten to adult education. It occurred to us day before yesterday to notify the authorities that we were starting these classes. Then our trouble started. We have been to see them half a dozen times and finally today get word that we must get textbooks from Peking, from the new educational authorities there. This will delay starting for another week or more.
Nov. 3.
Conditions are slow to improve. Soldiers were robbing people on our street yesterday. I have within half an hour been asked to help the case of a well-to-do farmer from a nearby village who has been arrested by the gendarmerie and is virtually being held for ransom on some flimsy spurious charge. Weather is getting cold and we must do something for those who have no homes, or who have lost clothes and bedding and money.
De: "Natasha Petersen"
<np57@cox.net>
À: "weihsien"
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: 2006 Old
Date: lundi 10 avril 2006 17:42
I have the
information on the
I am hoping
to attend. It would be interesting to
know who is planning to go. Let us know.
Natasha np57@cox.net
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Einreinhofer
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:28 AM
Subject: CCTV
Hi Mary,
Last February I was interviewed for the CCTV program “Dialogue”
regarding my documentary “So Very Far From Home.” I have just learned that portions of that
interview, as well as footage from the August Weihsien commemoration, will be
broadcast on CCTV-9 on Wednesday April 12 at 19:30 (7:30 pm)
On Thursday April 13 the program will be repeated at 0:30 (12:30
am), 07:30 (7:30 am), and 13:00 (1:00pm)
CCTV-9 is
Here is their web address: <http://www.cctv-9.com/2005/>
Once
on their website, click the button marked “Live Broadcast” at the appropriate
time(s). You can go directly to the
streaming video via this web address: <http://www.cctv-9.com/2005/default.asp?videoName=live&videoSpeed=300>
I have no idea what is actually in the program, but I thought you
and some of the other people who participate in the Weihsien Topica Bulletin
Board might be interested.
Bill
<MTPrevite@aol.com>
wrote:
Four
terms is correct. Eight years.
Mary
De: "georgeanna knisely"
<jknisely@paonline.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: CCTV
Date: jeudi 13 avril 2006 15:30
Mary,
Forgive me!
I need to
thank you for the Mother-Daughter Program from 1967!!!! What a neat gift for our women. They were so appreciative and enjoyed seeing
the names and remembering.
With love
and appreciation, Dusty
De: "Nicky & Leopold"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: message for Topica
Date: lundi 17 avril 2006 19:40
----- Original Message -----
From: FatherHanquet_c/o_Leopold
To: Nicky & Leopold
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 6:29 PM
Subject: message for Topica
Cher Leopold,
Voudrais-tu transmettre
ce message à Topica?
Bien à toi,
E. Hanquet.
--- Mary
Previte's question: ---
How did
life in Weihsien affect the way you conducted religious services or activities
there? How did confinement affect your
faith?
To answer
these questions, I must first remind you of a few facts about our internment in
Weihsien Camp.
During the
first 6 months of 1943 we had to organize ourselves the best we could. Various
tasks were distributed amongst the prisoners having the abilities or the good
will to help. With more than 2000 men, women and children, the compound was
overcrowded. We were living one on top of the other in overcrowded rooms.
The
departure of the more or less 200 Fathers and Nuns during the summer of 1943,
allowed us to re-arrange the prisoners in their housings. Only 11 priests and 4
nuns remained in the camp. All the others were sent to
By the end
of that same summer there was a new departure of the American families going
back to the States thanks to a prisoner-exchange agreement with the Japanese
authorities. They were to be repatriated on board the neutral Swedish vessel,
the "Gripsholm".
--- Then,
at the beginning of winter arrived the
It took us
about a year to get to know all the camp people a little better and to get
thoroughly acquainted.
I already
told you about my work in kitchen No.1 with Langdon Gilkey and Robin Strong.
Besides cooking, we found a noodle-machine and successfully tried to make
noodles! It was only after that experience that we started using our christen
names.
I also
remember that we had to wait until the
We, the 11
remaining priests had friendly conversations with them. From then on began our
relationship with Norman Cliff, Stephen Metcalf, Brian Thompson and many
others. As a way to engage conversations, we started to teach them French, but
that didn't last for long because their School Principal forbade the students
to have further contacts with us. He felt responsible for them and feared they
might loose their faith.
I must tell
you that as young and healthy priests, we were very active in everyday
camp-life. We often accepted the hardest chores. Many internees saw us as we
were --- not as "Fathers" but as prisoners like all the others. This
allowed us to build many a friendship. We were approached by many for all kinds
of services such as participating in the Christmas choir conducted by Father
Gyselinck or to appear in a show. I hope you remember that I played a Roman
soldier in "Androcles and the Lion" with Father Palmers.
We also
helped the younger prisoners. Very early during our imprisonment and with the
help of Mr. Coburn, we took the initiative in creating a scout troop. To do so,
we changed all the exterior signs of recognition with any existing scout
organizations, as these were severely forbidden by the Japanese.
A close
collaboration took place around 1944 between the discipline and education
committees to protect the younger ones against the potential dangers of life and
to occupy more wisely their study and leisure time.
As for the
liturgical celebrations we never had the slightest problem. The celebration
schedules at the Assembly Hall on Sundays were shared between the Catholics,
the Church of England and the different Protestant groups. The concerts and
serenades played by the Salvation Army Band were appreciated by all.
Intellectually,
contacts were made in educational classes, participating in teaching classical
Chinese with Lucien Porter, ecumenical interactivities with Hugh Hubbard and
many other subjects.
It is true
that we haven't lost our time in Weihsien Camp and I have personally much
improved my knowledge of the "human being" during these 32 months by
a better understanding of the Protestants' way of thinking.
It helped
me in having a more familiar and affectionate approach with all the Protestants
I met with later in my life.
Father
Hanquet
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: message for
Topica
Thanks,
Leopold,
That
is a lovely interview. It made me wish that my Grandfather had a better
opportunity to become acquainted with Fr. Hanquet before he left on the
Gripsholm. Even so, he writes admiringly of the "magnificent
Fathers," both for their willingness to do the hardest jobs and for their
prowess in baseball, which he greatly admired.
Donald
De: "Mary Previte"
<mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Fw: message
for Topica
Date: mardi 18 avril 2006 16:38
What a
wonderful letter enriched with a
fascinating view of Weihsien from someone who saw the camp with the
eyes of an adult!
Thank
you, Father Hanquet. Please keep writing.
I remember
Father Palmer and the older Harle sister from the Chefoo group taking walks around the basketball (ROLL
CALL) court near the hospital --while
she practiced French conversation
with Father Palmer.
What
memories do any of you have of outdoor
Easter services with Brigadier Stranks
and the Salvation Army band?
Mary
Previte
De: "georgeanna knisely"
<jknisely@paonline.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: New Book!
Date: mardi 18 avril 2006 23:43
Hey,
Have you
seen the new book out by David McCasland?
ERIC LIDDELL: PURE GOLD. Just
started it , looks good. Even if it
didn't I would have bought it, right?
Georgie Knisely
De: "Mary Previte"
<mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: New Book!
Date: mardi 18 avril 2006 23:51
Hello, Georgie:
Check the
Foreward to see if it is written by my brother James. I
believe this book has also been translated into Chinese.
Mary
De: "georgeanna knisely" <jknisely@paonline.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: New Book!
Date: mercredi 19 avril 2006 18:41
As far as I
can see, Mary, there is no forward. It
was printed in 2001 Discovery House Publishers, but mine is paperback, maybe
that is why. Funny, I had never heard of
this one. The best one I have is Surrender
by a brit from
Are you,
did you go to the monologue of Eric Liddell off broad way. ? I would have loved to, but just not enough time. Love to hear anyone who did. How was it.
Georgie Knisely
De: "Mary Previte"
<mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Foreward to PURE GOLD -- a
book about Eric Liddell
Date: jeudi 20 avril 2006 2:30
PURE GOLD
Foreword
The
Eric Liddell I Knew Eric Liddell was my
hero long before the 1981 Academy Award
winning movie, Chariots of Fire, brought
him to the attention of the world.
Interned together in the Japanese concentration camp in
400 meter
run in the 1924 Paris Olympics. He told us of the time a year earlier where he
picked himself up after having been tripped by another runner, made up the time
lost, pulled ahead at the last moment to win the race. We loved to hear him
tell of the
With the
Beijing Olympics coming in ’08, Pure Gold is a great book for sports fans. It
paints its pageantry in bronze, silver, and gold. Here the reader will find the excitement of
international track competition - friendly rivalries, team work, sportsmanship,
unfulfilled dreams, and broken records.
Pure Gold
is much more than that. It is the story
of a very common, yet unique, man – Eric Liddell. From Liddell’s birth in
Eric was
not only a great athlete; he was also a remarkable educator. Coming to
“Athletics
is part of educating the whole person. A man is composed of three parts – mind,
body, and soul, and only when we instruct each part in such a way that one is
not overestimated, but each receives proper emphasis, we will get the finest
and truest graduates from our University. As we realize that we not only have
to store our minds with knowledge, but to educate our bodies for the strenuous
life we must go through, and also remember that we are spirit as well, then we will send out
graduates who are really worthy of
taking their place in any part of life.”
Eric
modeled this ideal in his own life. Deeply
involved in running and rugby in
university, he tied for first place in inorganic and physical chemistry.
He led his
church’s youth program and taught Sunday
school for poor children in the slums.
What made
Eric Liddell great?
Eric
Liddell was real. In a day when students are concerned about corruption in government and immorality
in society, here is a model to emulate,
a man of integrity, principle, and unwavering spirit. He was prepared to sacrifice himself and his
position for his convictions. Principles that are important for public life are
equally important in personal life. In sports, in work, and in life, Eric said the end never justified the means.
A story he
often told us in concentration camp illustrates his values. From the grandstands,
Eric watched athletes from the
Lord Sands
in
Eric
Liddell persevered. The ideals and standards Eric set for himself were made,
not for the moment, but for life.
Determination and perseverance marked his pursuit of excellence in
sports, in education, in service to others, and in his religious faith. When
another runner tripped Eric in the 440 yards event in the British Triangular
International in 1923, he refused to let the setback determine the outcome of
the race. With unwavering perseverance, he leapt back into the race, went for
gold, and got it.
The
disturbances and dangers of the War of Resistance made teaching in
Eric’s long
courtship with
After the
Olympics, when suddenly called upon to give an impromptu speech at St. Giles’
Cathedral, he spoke quietly: “I hardly know what to say on this occasion
because there are many here who deserve this just as much as I do.”
He
recognized the enormous contribution his parents had in his life, his teachers
had in his education, his coach had in his running, and his colleagues had in
service together. He had no sense that God gave him a special blessing because
he had refused to run on Sunday. God was gracious, but He is not obligated to
give the gold in any of the world’s contests to one who obeys His will.
Under pressure
of the Japanese occupation in
Eric
Liddell was a deeply caring person. In the midst of all the adulation after his
1924 Olympics and similar successes, he embraced those who had not won. Eric
liked to quote the words he had seen engraved over the entrance of the
He cared
for his students at the
In the
Weihsien concentration camp, Eric was like an uncle to those of us separated
from our parents. Though he had taken a firm personal stand on not running on
Sunday, he was willing to referee our Sunday afternoon games when he discovered
fights breaking out between the teams. When he discovered that some of the
older youth, children of
Our
headmaster shared a secret at Eric Liddell’s memorial service in 1945.
He had
learned that “Uncle” Eric had planned to sell the gold watch presented to him
by the City of
Eric
Liddell was a man of Faith. Though he was born into a devout Christian home and
had attended church all his life, it was not until he was 21 that Eric decided
to tell the Lord that he wanted to serve Him. That decision was sealed when he
accepted an invitation to speak publicly for the first time to rough Scottish
miners. There Eric personally encountered God and his pilgrimage of faith
began. Up to that point Jesus Christ had been only an historical figure to be
admired. Now He became his personal Saviour, guide and friend.
Over the
next 20 years that relationship was steadily deepened through regular study of
the Bible, reflection, prayer and Christian fellowship. He was greatly helped
by the Oxford Group and their emphasis in Bible study on reading accurately,
interpreting honestly and applying drastically. The latter meant living each day
by the Four Absolutes: absolute honesty, absolute purity, absolute unselfishness,
and absolute love. This was the new standard Eric set for himself. He knew that
to attain to such a standard in his own strength was impossible. This led Eric
to a personal pursuit of the cleansing, filling and empowering of the Holy
Spirit.
In
concentration camp, he loved to speak from the Sermon on the Mount and on the
gifts of the Spirit. We boys sensed that these were not empty words.
Uncle Eric
modeled these ideals.
Eric
Liddell was a Scot with a heart for
Why? The
love of Christ constrained him.
In 1937,
he wrote from the Hebei countryside: “It
is good for me that in a year of
unprecedented hardship and suffering for the people, I should have been
sent away from the city and … should
have been given … an opportunity of seeing some
of the hardest hit places.” Eric gave himself to helping hungry people.
He rescued wounded peasants and brought them to the Christian hospital for treatment.
Why? The love of Christ constrained him.
In 1941, to
protect his pregnant wife Flo and their two daughters from the unpredictable
dangers of Japanese occupation, Eric sent them by ship to
“I would be
true, for there are those who trust me;
I would be
pure, for there are those who care;
I would be
strong, for there is much to suffer;
I would be
brave, for there is much to dare.”
How? The
love of Christ constrained him.
Eric
Liddell never was a student or teacher at the
“Plaudits
of men we lightly appraise,
Set we a
nobler aim –
Ever to
bring through the toil of our days
Glory to
God’s great Name.
Many the
voices that ring in our ears,
Many the
cries of need;
God give us
grace in the coming years
His voice
alone to heed.”
James H.
Taylor III
Hong
Kong SAR
De: "Ron Bridge"
<rwbridge@freeuk.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Foreward to PURE GOLD -- a
book about Eric Liddell
Date: jeudi 20 avril 2006 9:10
I was
interviewed by David McCausland the author of Pure Gold on my recollections of
Eric (His parents were great friends of my grandparents and he took part in
several sports with my father ion the 20s and 30s. Pure Gold was published 2001
by Discovery House Publishers affiliated to RBC Ministries Grand Rapids
Michigan 49512
ISBN No is
0 57293 051 9 and there was a three part TV programmed on the subject also done
by RBC.
Rgds
Ron
De: "georgeanna knisely"
<jknisely@paonline.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Foreward to PURE GOLD -- a
book about Eric Liddell
Date: jeudi 20 avril 2006 18:13
Thank you
so much!!!! This was not in my
book. Maybe not in the papaerback. I will put it in. Thanks so very much, Georgie
Did I send
you this. I am just starting to send it out.
Have my visa and tickets, so guess it is go unless something really
tragic happens in the next week or so.
Why me?? Yes, I asked that often
- I am so blessed!
Dear, dear friends,
April 20, 2006
I am off on another adventure – I
hope. May 1st I leave for
Jay and I traveled through
I have been given names of people
who are there and hope I have time to get out of the school a little and see
the real world of
I have also been privileged to
visit a woman on death row, another friend goes with me and once a month we
visit and try to encourage them that the world still knows they are there and
cares. Strangely enough, they seem to
encourage us more and make us so aware of all that we have in freedom, space,
opportunities, etc. We may only visit one person at a time. So we each visit the same individual each
time. There are two other women on death
row in PA. I write to them, but cannot
visit them.
Sooo, as you can see, I do not
seem to sit home for long. I have done a
lot of speaking on
I covet your prayers while I am
going and being there and coming home.
De: "David Birch"
<gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: New e=mail address
Date: jeudi 20 avril 2006 20:16
Dear Audrey,
Thank you
for sending me a copy of your new email address.
However,
once again, I must tell you that your 'overeager' computer got carried away and
sent me a total of five identical emails informing me of your new address. I
wonder if others are also receiving multiple copies of the same email!
This has
happened occasionally in the past re emails coming from you.
Sincerely
David
berean
<berean@xplornet.com> wrote:
Dear Family and Friends:
Please be advised that as of NOW our e-mail
address has changed. We could not do anything different as to
notification. So if you have tried
e-mailing us within the last 6 hours or more and have received your letter
returned==you will know why. And please
try again. Our new e-mail address is:
berean@xplornet.com
Sincerely,
Audrey
Nordmo Horton
De: "berean" <berean@xplornet.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: New e=mail address
Date: jeudi 20 avril 2006 23:52
The message
kept coming up saying that it couldn't be sent due to such and such an
address. I apologize. Audrey
----- Original
Message -----
From: David
Birch
To:
weihsien@topica.com
Sent:
Thursday, April 20, 2006 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: New
e=mail address
Dear Audrey,
Thank you for sending me a copy of your new
email address.
However, once again, I must tell you that
your 'overeager' computer got carried away and sent me a total of five
identical emails informing me of your new address. I wonder if others are also
receiving multiple copies of the same email!
This has happened occasionally in the past re
emails coming from you.
Sincerely
David
De: "Raymond Moore"
<raym82@hotmail.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Foreward to PURE GOLD -- a
book about Eric Liddell
Date: vendredi 21 avril 2006 2:08
Thanks
Mary, for including the full text of your brother's forward to "Pure
Gold"
by David McCasland. My copy did not
include it, and I have now printed your email and slid it in to the front of
the book.
Great book.
Warm
regards to you all,
Ray Moore
De: "Mary Previte"
<mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Eric Liddell play, BEYOND
THE CHARIOTS, now playing in
Date: vendredi 21 avril 2006 3:31
Reminder:
The Eric Liddell
play, "BEYOND THE CHARIOTS," with Rich Swingel is now playing Off Broadway
tomorrow -- Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
For details
go to fireoffbroadway.com
Mary
Previte
De: "Mary Previte"
<mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Foreward to PURE GOLD -- a
book about Eric Liddell
Date: vendredi 21 avril 2006 3:44
Hello,
Georgie:
I will look
forward to hearing all about your trip when your return. What amazing opportunity and ministry!
Mary
Previte
De: "Mary Previte"
<mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: PURE GOLD -- where to buy
it
Date: vendredi 21 avril 2006 4:02
Information
about where to purchase PURE GOLD
PURE GOLD
is available in Chinese translation with the
foreword I wrote, also in Chinese. The original English edition does not
have a foreword. Thus, unless we put my
foreword in English on the web, it is not available elsewhere.
The English
edition of PURE GOLD was published by Discovery House Publishers in
For the
Chinese edition of PURE GOLD, I would suggest the following:
US &
_bks@afcinc.org_
(mailto:bks@afcinc.org)
(mailto:cocm@cocm.org.uk)
(mailto:au@omf.net)
_bamboo@omf.net_
(mailto:bamboo@omf.net)
Hopes this
helps
James
Taylor
De: "Donald"
<dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À: "weihsien"
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Eric Liddell Play
Date: samedi 22 avril 2006 23:14
Hello, all,
We saw the
play, Beyond Chariots, last night. It
was very well done, with writer-actor Rich Swingle playing multiple roles, from
Chinese students to Japanese guards - and Liddell, of course.
Mary will
be pleased to see the historical note by James that puts the play in its larger
context. If you go on Sunday, Mary, you
may meet one of Liddell's daughters, who we were told plans to attend then.
Donald
De: "Mary Previte"
<mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Eric Liddell Play
Date: lundi 24 avril 2006 4:00
Helo,
Everybody:
I attended
the Saturday matinee of the Erifc Liddell drama, BEYOND THE
CHARIOTS, Off Broadway in
I was asked
to speak briefly following yesterday's performance.
Write/actor
Rich Swingle tells me that they are considering taking this show to
Liddell's
daughter, Heather, was scheduled to
attend tonight's performance.
Those of us
who attended the reunion in Weifang last August heard Stephen Metcalf's very moving story of how
Eric Liddell influenced Stephen's
life.
After
Stephen won a race between boys from the
Eric
inspired Stephen both by Eric's life and the messages he gave during Bible
studies which Eric conducted for young people in the camp. Talking about the Sermon on the Mount, Eric
used to ask if Jesus REALLY meant what he said:
"Love your enemies."
Could you love the Japanese?
Those influences ripple on.
Stephen Metcalf recently retired after serving God for a lifetime as a
missionary to
Mary Previte
De: "Nicky & Leopold"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Eric Liddell Play
Date: lundi 24 avril 2006 8:51
hello,
this should
help:
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/60YearsAfter/texts/txt_Metcalf.htm
all the
best,
Leopold
De: "georgeanna knisely"
<jknisely@paonline.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Eric Liddell Play
Date: mercredi 26 avril 2006 4:40
Mary,
How was the
play? Why did Rich Swingle write it and
what did he talk about or how present it.
Thanks, Georgie
De: "Marti Suddarth"
<MarthaSuddarth@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Martha Morrison Kramer
Date: lundi 1 mai 2006 20:58
My name is
Marti Kramer Suddarth. I'm the
grandniece of Martha Morrison Kramer, who was at Wei'Hsien from March to
September 1943, before being sent to
Marti
Suddarth
grandniece
of Martha Morrison Kramer
De: "Nicky & Leopold"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: search for morrison
Date: mardi 2 mai 2006 10:14
----- Original Message -----
From: Nicky & Leopold
To: weihsien@topica.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 10:04 AM
Subject: search for morrison
Dear Marti,
Hello,
Can this
help you?
You can
also go to this link:
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/pander/Weifang2006/Slide_Show/02_Weihsien/p_01.htm
and click
on picture No. 365 ---
Best
regards,
Leopold
(I was 4
years old when we were liberated in 1945)
De: "Marti Suddarth"
<MarthaSuddarth@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Fw: search
for morrison
Date: mardi 2 mai 2006 16:56
THANK YOU,
so much! I didn't know there was such a
wall. I didn't find Aunt Martha's name,
but she left in September of 1943. Maybe
the list was compiled later?
When I was
a little girl, my parents had told me that Aunt Martha (who is actually my
dad's aunt) was under "house arrest" while in
Now I wish
I could ask Aunt Martha so many questions, but of course, I can't. Dad's
brother and his wife printed some letters that Aunt Martha had written in
THANK YOU,
everyone, for allowing me to be a part of this list.
Marti
(Kramer) Suddarth
Grandniece
of Martha Morrison Kramer
De: "Greg Leck"
<gregleck@epix.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Fw: search
for morrison
Date: mardi 2 mai 2006 19:30
The
Weihsien list is very incomplete. Many
of those on the MS Gripsholm are not recorded.
There were
over 1500 repatriates from the
Your great
Aunt Martha was living in Peking and a teacher at
Greg Leck
www-captives-of-empire.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: search for
morrison
Marti,
Welcome
aboard!
Apparently
our grandparents were together on the Gripsholm prisoner exchange. If you
want to know what that trip was like, including two journals (George
Wilder and Howard Galt) and some watercolor sketches by Gertrude Wilder of the
places where they stopped on the way, you can find them at my
"family" web http://d.menzi.org. Just click on the
"Directory" link then on "Repatriation Journey."
I'm
sure that exploring Leopold Pander's wonderful web site will be quite an
adventure for you.
Donald
Menzi
De: "Tracy Strong"
<tstrong@weber.ucsd.edu>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Fw: search
for morrison
Date: mercredi 3 mai 2006 2:00
Dear Donald
- many thanks for the web site - and I am charmed to find that George Wilder
baptized me on Sept 12, 1943.! Your grandparents and my parents (Robbins and Katherine
Strong) were thus on the same voyage of the
Gripsholm.
Tracy B.
Strong
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 4:24 PM
Subject: RE: Fw: search for
morrison
Dear Tracy - Yes, and I believe that your parents and my grandparents lived in
the same multi-family home in Oberlin for a while after repatriation. Do you remember
their Oberlin address?
Donald
De: "Mary Previte"
<mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Greg Leck's book
Date: mercredi 3 mai 2006 21:44
Hello,
Greg,
Is your
book out yet? Please give us all the
details,
Mary Previte
De: "Mary Previte"
<mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Weihsien liberator, Jim
Moore
Date: jeudi 4 mai 2006 2:28
Hello,
Everybody,
Jim Moore
tells me that cancer has spread to his lungs.
Last summer, unexpected surgery for cancer of the colon prevented Jim
from joining us for the 60th
anniversary of our liberation from Weihsien.
He is 86.
A member of
the super-secret Office of Strategic Services, Jim Moore was one of the six
Americans who parachuted from a B-24 bomber to liberate the
Jim Moore's
is truly one of the amazing sagas of World War II. The son of Southern Baptist
missionaries to
Yes, he
liberated his own Alma Mater.
When he got
inside the camp on August 17, 1945, the first person he asked to see was
"PA" Bruce, Head Master of the
Despite
some difficulty breathing, Jim continues very up-beat. He tells me that he is now living a day at
a time.
If you'd
like to write or phone Jim to express your appreciation for the gift of freedom
he gave us in 1945, use the following contact information.
James
W.
9605
Why don't
you tell him your very personal memories of August 17, 1945?
Jim does
not use e-mail.
Mary Taylor
Previte
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 5:08 PM
Subject: Some thoughts on Jim
Moore's Story
Mary,
Your
touching information about Jim Moore's story is yet another example of the kind
of "circularity" - connectedness and "wholeness"
- that sometimes occurs in life, and which seems to be especially true of
the whole Weihsien story. Yesterday for me it was hearing
that Tracy Strong had discovered that my grandfather had baptized him in
1943, a connection that neither of us were aware of. And now Tracy and I
are re-connected in a way, by being members of this email group. Today we
learn from you how Jim Moore in his own lifetime was able to complete a
cycle by actively responding to the news of his alma mater's capture and
choosing to set out on a course that eventually led him to being one of those
who liberated Chefoo's captivity. And now those whom he liberated
are once again together with him, sending him love and support as he
approaches the end of his life.
I
always find it a little amazing when these hidden
connections become apparent. It would be wonderful, wouldn't
it, if by the end of our lives here we could look back and see
our own life story as a series of these vignettes, each one complete
with a satisfying ending and no remaining loose ends? I
imagine that for believers there is a trust - or at least a hope - that
the sum total of all the little vignettes of all our lives, and those of
past and future generations, adds up to a meaningful and purposeful story,
whose plot and ending we can only guess at.
At
least for now the Internet and email have made it possible for us to discover
some of the hidden connections and stories that we would never know
about without it. Thanks to you and to everyone who has
used these new resources so effectively to bring us all closer
together. It has added a whole new dimension
to all of our lives.
Donald
De: "Greg Leck"
<gregleck@epix.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Greg Leck's book
Date: jeudi 11 mai 2006 5:20
Dear Mary
and Weihsien Topica Members:
As some of
you may know, I have been working on a book about internment for several years
now. This is not light summer reading
for the beach, but an extensively researched, serious, academic history of the
Japanese internment of Allied civilians in
To put the
book together I have scoured archives from
The book's
title is Captives of Empire. You can see
more at
www.captives-of-empire.com
http://www.captives-of-empire.com/
The website
will soon be updated with details of the book.
I chose the
title because firstly, internees were the prisoners of Dai Nippon or the Empire
of Japan. But some were also, in a way,
captives of their economic or personal empires in
The book is
an extensive documentation of the internment experience. Weighing in at five
pounds, it is large format (8.5 inches by 11 inches), 738 pages in length, and
contains over 650 illustrations, 20 maps, and extensive color images. It covers the life of Westerners in
A chapter
on repatriation details how repatriates were chosen, and describes the journey
of the various ships to Goa, Lourenco Marques, and onward to
Those who
were in Weihsien, or had relatives there, will be interested in a number of new
discoveries related to that camp.
- A sketch
of a dormitory room by internee Jim Murray.
- A photo
of five Weihsien girls in the food queue.
- An
illustrated poster for the "Sewing Advisory Group" listing the
internees available for advice.
- A Women's
Auxiliary poster advertising a Sewing Bee and Story Telling.
- Sketches
and drawings of camp activities
- A photo
of tin cups and containers made from recycled cans (from Ash Camp, but no doubt
similar to those used in Weihsien)
- A photo
of the hospital
- A
Weihsien internee in the camp dentist's chair (and smiling, too)
- Photos of
the Japanese Consular Police, including them shepherding internees from the
American Embassy to the
- A
painting of a dark uniformed guard in a watchtower at Weihsien by internee Nick
Milhailoff.
- A sketch
of Weihsien internees waiting for roll call to begin.
- Two
colorful posters for plays put on in camp, "Stewdents" (featuring
Joyce
Cook and
others) and "Red Hot and Blue" the last play before liberation.
- A photo
of two Weihsien internees at a piano.
- An
envelope mailed from Weihsien to a neutral Irish national in Peitaiho.
- A 1943
Weihsien Christmas card.
- A 1942
photo of Weihsien escaper Laurance Tipton wearing his red armband.
- A 1945
photo of Mary Previte, her three siblings, and Raymond Moore and David Allen on
an airstrip, getting ready to board a flight to Xian. (I discovered this photo in the National
Archives. Mary was unaware of its existence.)
- A photo
of Weihsien children playing in camp - it looks like "ring around the
rosey."
- A drawing
of Chinese traders on the wall after liberation.
- A photo
of a Chinese market set up after liberation.
- Japanese
Consular Police inspecting luggage prior to internment
- Internees
carrying luggage on the grounds of the Peking American Embassy.
- Weihsien
students in a classroom
- A group
of children in a Weihsien dining hall.
- A photo
of Weihsien internees in the hot water line.
- A view of
an inner courtyard in camp.
- Weihsien
internees arriving in
- US Army
personnel talking with internees
- Internees
boarding trucks to take them to the Ershilipu airstrip to be airlifted out.
- Internees
boarding C-46 transports
- A photo
of internee women cleaning vegetables
- Internees
after the war.
It has been
a tremendous job to put this all together.
I am acting as my own publisher and have different printers and a book
binder involved - and I have literally put together each book, by hand, on my
dining room table, placing every single one of the 738 pages in the correct
order for every one of the books.
Because of the short print run, large size, length, and extensive use of
interior color, it has been an expensive project. Before I decided to do the project myself, I
was quoted prices of $150 -$170 to print and bind each volume! I am selling the books at roughly what it
cost me to print and bind them - $75. I
think the final book looks very professional - most people would not know that
it is a self published volume.
In
September I will be giving an illustrated talk on the camps at the Old China
Hands Reunion and hope to have further Weihsien photos to show.
sincerely,
Greg Leck
De: "Alison Holmes"
<aholmes@prescott.edu>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Greg Leck's book
Date: mardi 16 mai 2006 0:17
Greg, I
went to your website and tried to send you a message there but do not know if
it got through. I would like a copy of
your book. Please let me know if you
received the message. Thanks, Alison
Holmes
De: "Greg Leck"
<gregleck@epix.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Greg Leck's book
Date: mardi 16 mai 2006 2:10
Hello Alison,
I did not
get the message via the website but this one did come through fine.
I will
reserve a copy for you. Don't send
anything until you hear from me later in the month - I want to be certain they
are ready to go, which means I will have them in hand!
Thanks,
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: Dwight W. Whipple
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: Greg Leck's book
Hi Greg~
I am interested in having your book, too. Please
put me on the list, and autograph it for me, if you will!
~Dwight W. Whipple
4728A
360.456.4300
De: "Pamela Maters"
<pamela@hendersonhouse.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Greg Leck's book
Date: mardi 16 mai 2006 16:06
Dear Greg --
I would
really like to get a copy of your book "Captives of Empire" when it's
published. I am really intrigued that you have a picture of the poster for
"Professor Thomas and his Stewdents" as that was one that I did. In
fact, I have a colorful page in my autograph album (if I can lay my hands on
it) signed by Gerry Thomas and all the cast...of which I was a minor member.
Will scan the page and send it on to Weihsien Topica.
Here is my
address:
Pamela
Pamela
Masters - Author/Publisher
Titles: The
Mushroom Years, Sass & Serendipity
Phone:
530-647-2000
Fax:
530-647-2002
pamela@hendersonhouse.com
De: "Joyce Cook"
<bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Date: jeudi 18 mai 2006 5:48
Autograph book
Dear Greg
and Pamela and other Weihsieners. I also
remember the play with Professor Thomas and I too have all the signatures in my
autograph book. In fact I sang a duet sitting at a piano with Tisha Metcalf
(Gerry Thomas' stepdaughter) singing "September In The Rain" and also
managed a solo "Daddy Wouldn’t Buy Me A Bow Wow" (Maybe it is a good thing recorders weren’t
available in those days).
I met Tisha
a few years ago in
De: "Nicky & Leopold"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: autograph book
Date: jeudi 18 mai 2006 11:03
Dear Pamela, Dear Joyce,
Hello,
I'd be glad
to add any copies-of-pages from your autograph book you wish to the
Weihsien-picture-gallery-web-site --- for all to share with you.
Best
regards,
Leopold
De: "Mary Broughton"
<wilmar@clear.net.nz>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: change of address
Date: samedi 20 mai 2006 5:58
I have just
changed my email address
to
maryhbroughton@swissmail.org
I too found
Father Hanquet's interview so very interesting.
I am so sorry our Headmaster stopped the French lessons. He did his best but was rather over
protective in other ways too. I have always said one of the joys of Weihsien
was meeting and seeing so many different people from different walks of
life. In fact over the last year in Camp
my best friend was Gay Talbot and we spent many hours discussing what we
believed, happily agreeing to differ in a few areas. I was 15 then.
I seldom
write but I do enjoy reading all the Weihsien letters at Topica,
Greetings
to everyone,
Mary
(Hoyte) Broughton
De: "Mary Previte"
<mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Update on three surviving
Weihsien liberators: Moore, Nagaki,
Hannon
Date: mercredi 31 mai 2006 7:09
Hello,
Everybody:
Here's an
update on our three surviving Americans who liberated Weihsen: Jim Moore, Jim
Hannon, and Tad Nagaki. All three are 86 years of age.
I telephoned all three on our Memorial Day holiday weekend.
Jim Moore
is being cared for at home in his struggle with cancer that has moved from the
colon into his lungs. Hospice workers
now help with his care. Jim remains upbeat and sharp as ever, despite his
telling me frankly that he's living a day at a time. Ever the gentleman, he
says he deeply appreciates your cards and letters. Jim's is a remarkable story. The son of
missionaries to
By the way,
Jim is the only college graduate on the team that liberated us. He and Raymond Hanchulak moved on from the
If you'd
like to write, Jim's address is James W. Moore,
Tad Nagaki,
a widower, still actively farms corn, beans, and wheat with a younger brother
in
Jim Hannon
and his wife, Gin, are celebrating their 63rd wedding anniversary today not to
mention their creative partnership. Jim
continues hand writing books and screen plays. Gin turns them into manuscripts
and book or screen proposals. But Jim
says he suffers increasingly-serious problems with his balance and has suffered
several falls recently. He says he remains optimistic about one or more of his
books turning into a movie, but says that his limited mobility also limits his
ability to market his books into movies. In marketing, phone calls and letters lack the power of
face-to-face meetings.
I will be
grateful for ever for knowing these men.
Mary T
Previte
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Leck
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 5:56 AM
Subject: Captives of Empire
Dear Topica Members:
My book, Captives of Empire: The Japanese
Internment of Allied Civilians in China, is now available. I picked
up the books from the bindery yesterday and I am very happy with their
appearance.
Here is a brief outline of the book, as
well as payment methods and shipping costs.
(I don’t know if Topica accepts HTML format
– if not, the Table of Contents in your email will appear disorganized.)
Table of Contents
|
|
Foreword |
ix |
|
|
Acknowledgements |
xi |
|
|
A Note on Transliteration |
xii |
|
|
Glossary and Abbreviations |
xiii |
|
|
A Note on Currency |
xiv |
|
|
Introduction |
19 |
1 |
|
Halcyon Days |
27 |
2 |
|
While Storm Clouds Gather The The Showing the
Flag for Empire |
37 42 44 48 |
3 |
|
8 December 1941
Last Boat out of
The SS President Harrison Crew |
55 58 64 |
4 |
|
Under the Shadow
The Pao Chia
The BRA
Santo Tomas Transfers
Stranded in
The Italians in China |
73 76 82 87 96 98 |
5 |
|
Bridge House |
105 |
6 |
|
The Best Possible Home |
121 |
7 |
|
Housing
Pets in Camp |
137 142 |
8 |
|
Food
The Food Queue |
153 158 |
9 |
|
Work |
177 |
10 |
|
Medical Care and Health
A Trip to the Dentist
Bedbugs, Mosquitoes, and Pests |
187 194 201 |
11 |
|
The Authorities
Guards
Roll Call |
205 209 224 |
12 |
|
The Red Cross |
229 |
13 |
|
Law and Order
The Black Market |
239 248 |
14 |
|
Sports and Activities |
255 |
15 |
|
School and Education |
261 |
16 |
|
Entertainment |
273 |
17 |
|
Repatriation
From Within the Empire
The Amazing Saga of Edgar Whitcomb |
283 296 301 |
18 |
|
Newspaper, Mail, and Communications |
307 |
19 |
|
Religious Life |
317 |
20 |
|
Escapes |
323 |
21 |
|
Resistance and Collaborators
The Lunghwa Riot |
347 350 |
22 |
|
Humor |
367 |
23 |
|
Children
Families Divided |
375 376 |
24 |
|
Liberation |
385 |
25 |
|
Last Moments of a World |
407 |
26 |
|
Epilogue |
419 |
27 |
|
The Camps
Ash Camp
Chapei Camp
Lunghwa Camp
Pootung Camp
Shanghai Religious Centers
The
Weihsien and the
Yu Yuen Road Camp |
427 428 434 438 444 448 456 460 466 474 478 480 484 498 502 506 512 |
28 |
|
Nominal Rolls
Ash Camp
Chapei Camp
Lazarist Procuration
Lunghwa Camp
Pootung Camp
Sacred Heart
Senmouyeu Nuns’ Residence
Weihsien Camp
Yangchow B Camp
Zikawei |
519 521 528 529 549 550 555 561 567 592 593 613 614 615 655 685 690 696 705 718 |
|
|
Bibliography |
721 |
|
|
Index |
731 |
|
|
Credits |
738 |
Ordering Information
Captives of Empire: The Japanese
Internment of Allied Civilians in
scheduled publication date: June 1, 2006
Shandy Press SAN 2 5
7 – 0 1 8 1
ISBN: 0-9772141-0-9
Library of Congress Control Number:
2005906868
8.5 inch by 11 inch, hardcover with full
color illustrated dust jacket
738 pages
665 color and black and white
illustrations, 20 maps
Nominal Rolls of internees in
Index, extensive bibliography
Price (direct from author, all
prices in US Dollars)
$75.00 plus shipping
Shipping:
- media mail $5.00, each add'l copy $3
-surface mail $12.00, each add'l copy $4
-
surface mail $12.00, each add'l copy $4
- surface
mail $13.00, each add'l copy $3
-
surface mail $13.00, each add'l copy $3
- surface mail $13.00, each add'l copy $3
Allow 6 to 8
weeks for delivery by surface mail.
Shipping Weight: 5 pounds 8 ounces (2.5 kilograms)
Payment Methods:
Personal check drawn on funds in a
Cashier or Bank check, payable in US
dollars.
Credit Card (Mastercard or VISA)
How
to Purchase
By check: Send payment in US dollars for purchase
price plus shipping costs, payable to Greg Leck, along with your shipping
address, to:
Greg Leck
By credit card: use your credit card to send purchase
price, plus shipping costs, in US dollars, via the Paypal website at www.paypal.com
Use the email
address gregleck@epix.net
as the recipient. Or, go to the book’s website, www.captives-of-empire.com,
scroll down to the bottom, and click on the button for the country destination
and desired shipping method.
De: "rod miller"
<rmmiller@optusnet.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: NZ Weihsien
Date: samedi 3 juin 2006 23:56
This maybe
of interest to some of you.
http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/name-035506.html
Rod
De: "Greg Leck"
<gregleck@epix.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Greg Leck's book
Date: dimanche 4 juin 2006 1:59
Dear Pamela,
I have the
books ready to go (finally). You can
find details about payment methods, prices, and shipping options at the updated
website:
www.captives-of-empire.com
http://www.captives-of-empire.com/
The
"Stewdents" poster came out quite well, with your name displayed.
thanks,
Greg
De: "Greg Leck"
<gregleck@epix.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Greg Leck's book
Date: dimanche 4 juin 2006 1:59
Hi Dwight,
The book
has finally arrived and is ready to go.
You can find out about shipping options, prices, and more at the updated
website:
www.captives-of-empire.com
http://www.captives-of-empire.com/
thanks,
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Leck
Sent: Sunday,
June 04, 2006 1:56 AM
Subject: RE: Greg Leck's book
Dear Alison,
The book has finally arrived and is ready
to go. You can find out about shipping options, prices, and more at the
updated website:
thanks,
Greg
De: "David Birch"
<gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: NZ Weihsien
Date: dimanche 4 juin 2006 5:03
Thank you
Rod! The record you have passed on to us of camps in the
Compared
with camps such as that at Changi, Weihsien, as I quite clearly recall, was
quite akin to 'heaven on earth!' Although food was inadequate as Captain Mason
states, the Japanese were never physically cruel to us. Some have other
memories however, although I believe these acts of cruelty were the exception
rather than the norm.
Thank you
again, for giving us this important document!
David Birch
(13 yrs old
at end of WWII)
De: "rod miller"
<rmmiller@optusnet.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: NZ Weihsien
Date: dimanche 4 juin 2006 22:24
David
You’re most
welcome.
Just saw it
when researching a NZ coast watcher.
You may
have already done so but if you go to the Australian War Memorial web site
collections database
http://www.awm.gov.au/database/collection.asp
search with the words china camps and you will
see some photographs of the Yangchow Internment Camp C was also known as
Yangchow Civilian Internment Centre which may be of interest.
This link
may work for one of the photographs.
http://www.awm.gov.au/database/cas.asp?accum=p02428.001
There is a
photograph of a red arm band like on the cover of Greg's fabulous book etc.
Kind
Regards
Rod Miller
De: "Mary Previte"
<mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: World War II Magazine
article about Jim Moore
Date: lundi 12 juin 2006 4:37
The
July-August issue of WORLD WAR II Magazine -- now available -- includes an
article I've written about our own Jim Moore, now age 86, of
The
five-page account tells how Moore and American liberators set out the day after
the Japanese Emperor capitulated -- intent on preventing the massacre of Allied
prisoners in Japanese internment camps in
The son of
Southern Baptist missionaries to
I plan to
forward the story to Leopold Pander's WEIHSIEN web site.
Mary
Previte
De: "Nicky & Leopold"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: World War II Magazine
article about Jim Moore
Date: mardi 13 juin 2006 14:45
Dear Mary,
and Weihsien friends ---
Thanks very
much for your story about Jim Moore. It is now accessible by clicking on this
link:
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/Mprevite/WWIIMagazine/WeihsienConcentrationCamp.htm
I still
have to make other links to this text via your chapter and also the chapter
named "The Magnificent Seven".
You can
also find new documents just sent to me by Norman Cliff (in his chapter). A
pass in Cinese delivered in Chefoo, 1937 -- by the British Consul. Also a badge
and a pin given to us by the mayor of
Many thanks
- again - for sending all this my way ---
Leopold.
De: "Mary Previte"
<mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Captives of Empire
Date: mercredi 14 juin 2006 21:07
Hello,
Greg:
My Captives
of Empire has arrived safely and I've sat glued to my chair reading it. What an amazing piece of research you've
given us! Congratulations.
I hope you
sell out IMMEDIATELY and have to order a second printing.
When you've
finished your backbreaking job of shipping these copies to enthusiastic
readers, I hope you'll let me have a copy of the photo of us six
Chefoo children getting ready to fly out of Weihsien.
Mary
Previte
De: "Raymond Moore"
<raym82@hotmail.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Captives of Empire
Date: jeudi 15 juin 2006 5:47
I haven't
received my copy yet as it's coming to
Thanks in
anticipation of a great read
Ray Moore
De: "Nicky & Leopold"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: de E. Hanquet
Date: dimanche 18 juin 2006 12:26
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul-Emile
Laggasse" <pe_lagasse@hotmail.com>
To: "pander leopold"
<pander.nl@skynet.be>
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 8:50 PM
Subject: de E. Hanquet
CECI EST UN MESSAGE DE E.
HANQUET
LLN 17-06-06
Cher Léopold,
J'ai beaucoup apprécié
l'article de M. Previte que tu m'as apporté. Peux-tu lui envoyer de ma part le
texte ci-joint.
To Mary
Taylor Previte:
I am just
through reading your 14 pages on «Rescue from de sky» and I wish to tell you
how much I am moved by your script: excellent article on late Jim Moore, one of
your heroes, now wonderfully depicted in your pages.
Bravo Mary,
for this perfect talk memorizing glorious events of your life in
Although 91
already, I am still able to vibrate and be deeply moved by what you published.
3 cheers to
you and to your work.
Very
friendly yours, Father E. Hanquet
De: "Mary Previte"
<mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Weihsien liberator, Jim
Moore, died at home today
Date: dimanche 18 juin 2006 22:51
Jim Moore,
one of the six Americans who liberated the Weihsien Concentration Camp in 1945
died peacefully at home today. He was 86.
If you'd
like to send a card or letter to Jim's wife,
Pat, here is the address:
Pat Moore,
Leopold
Pander's wonderful Weihsien web site has an article I wrote about Jim Moore for
the July-August issue of World War II Magazine. You can access Jim's remarkable
story at http://www.weihsien-paintings.org
(http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/
)
Mary Taylor
Previte
De: "Mary Previte"
<mtprevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Fw: de E. Hanquet
Date: dimanche 18 juin 2006 23:13
Thank you,
Father Hanquet:
What a thoughtful message! What a gift to be blessed with 91 years -- and good health!
I hope you'll continue to add memories for
Leopold's Weihsien web site.
Mary
Previte
De: "David Birch"
<gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: "Weihsien"
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Jim Moore, Weihsien
Liberator and Chefoo Alumnus
Date: lundi 19 juin 2006 22:06
I was most
thankful that Mary sent out a recent email about Jim Moore and gave his phone
number. Mary said that Jim was always very thankful for the letters, cards and
phone calls from Weihsien folk!
So a week
ago I phoned and had the privilege of chatting briefly with this wonderful man.
Jim sounded very upbeat and vigorous. Who would have known he was about to die?
We had a pleasant conversation and I told him that when he came to rescue us I
was a thirteen-year-old boy who was totally thrilled by these fearless
paratroopers coming down to us from the clear blue sky!
Jim and I
had something very special in common, namely that we were both "Chefoo
boys!"
Just before
we parted, Jim said to me, "I'll see you in the next world!" He told
me that he was trusting in Jesus Christ as his Saviour just as I am!
My only
regret is that Jim was not well enough last year to attend our Weihsien
reunion. He was 85 at that time and in poor health!
A great man
has passed on!
David Birch
De: "georgeanna knisely"
<jknisely@paonline.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsien liberator, Jim
Moore, died at home today
Date: mercredi 21 juin 2006 3:44
Mary,
I just read
your Rescue from the Sky!!!! And cried -
what did you expect. That was so
beautiful - two sides of the story. Yes,
I remember where I was. With my best
friend, it was her birthday and we were grinding peanuts, making peanut
butter! And yes, we ran out to the ball
field and then on. Still the most
exciting day in my life!!!!
And now reading Captives of Empire and
seeing all of it in this huge book and there were so many more camps then I
ever realized.
And now I appreciate you even more than
before, for finding these men and getting us all together again.
Love ya,
Georgie Reinbrecht Knisely
De: "Donald Menzi" <jweprinmenzi@earthlink.net>
À: "weihsien" <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Stephen Metcalf's Speech
Date: dimanche 2 juillet 2006 5:08
Hello, all,
I recently
came across a reference in a 1921 letter to an
http://beijing.usembassy.gov/081705ea.html
.
Leopold -
is this included in "our" web site?
If not it would be a good addition.
Donald
De: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Stephen Metcalf's Speech
Date: dimanche 2 juillet 2006 11:30
Hello,
If you
click on: http://www.weihsien-paintings.org and go to the chapter "60Years
Later"
- click on
the links --- I just added your interesting link.
or
- click on
"speeches" --- go to Stephen's speech and the
--- all the
best,
(thanks for
the tip, :-))
Leopold
De: "Gay Talbot Stratford"
<stillbrk@eagle.ca>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Stephen Metcalf's Speech
Date: jeudi 6 juillet 2006 2:50
DearDonald,
Many thanks
for making Steven's speech available.
I found it truly moving, his observations
about
Weihsien
has borne fruit of great value.
Thanks
again,
Gay Talbot
De: "Alexander Strangman" <dzijen@bigpond.net.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Contact
Date: vendredi 7 juillet 2006 13:18
Dear Weihsien-ites,
I would
appreciate it if someone could supply me with Stephen Metcalf's e-mail address
or other ?
Regards,
A (Zandy)
Strangman
De: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Contact
Date: vendredi 7 juillet 2006 13:23
Dear Zandy,
You should
be able to reach him at this address ---
All the
best,
Leopold
De: "Joyce Cook" <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Professor Thomas and his stewdents.
Date: dimanche 9 juillet 2006 8:14
I can now
send my autographs of Professor Thomas and His Students but I have lost Greg
Lecks address. Please Greg can you send to me and I will return. Thanks. Joyce
Bradbury.
De: "Alexander Strangman" <dzijen@bigpond.net.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Contact
Date: mardi 11 juillet 2006 9:40
Dear Léopold,
Thanks for
supplying me with Steven's e-mail address.
It's a nice feeling to know there is someone on the other side of the
world who is always willing to be such a big help!
Have you
been watching the FIFA World Cup?
My wife Jen
was never a sports minded person, but living with me and my sports programs has
changed her a bit.
This time
she has been almost as interested in the W/C Soccer as I was. Having the best coverage ever, of this years
World Cup, from one of our Sydney TV stations, made watching it, a real
pleasure. Not only were replays or game
high lights with expert commentary shown each day , but interesting travelogues
of the areas and towns where the games were due to take place, were also
presented, which was so interesting put you in the right frame of mind to see
more.
The Germans
certainly went out of their way to show the world, they are now a happy and
friendly people.
When
Then the
team that couldn't score a goal against the Aussie Socceroos for 90 minutes,
until they took a 'dive' and was awarded a questionable penalty to be able to
finally score, and then went on to win the final against France.
The
TV's wild scenes of Italian soccer fans
celebrating their team's win in the World Cup, was unbelievable. I can't remember seeing scenes of celebration
like that, even for the end of World War ll!
But we were all too tired, I guess.
Then
suddenly, it was all over and what one was left with, was an awful empty
feeling. But life goes on!
How has
life been treating you all in
How is Fr.
Hanquet getting along? I suppose you
are still doing interesting things with your computer?
Take
care,
Zandy
De: "Donald Menzi" <jweprinmenzi@earthlink.net>
À: "weihsien" <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Inviting a new member
Date: mercredi 12 juillet 2006 16:02
Hello,
anyone,
I've
forgotten how new people can get added to the list. My sister, Betty, wants to join. Her email address is
emenzi@hughes.net.
Please send
her what she needs in order to get on the list.
Thanks.
Donald
De: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: weihsien - via satelite
Date: mardi 18 juillet 2006 20:41
Hello,
Go to
"Google-earth"
You can
download it via Internet, --- it's free!
Go to 36°
42' 05,01" North
and 119° 07' 33,93" East
It is the
exact position of our Weihsien-camp's Hospital roof.
Remember, I
asked Google for a High-Definition map of our camp ---- now we have it.
Thanks
"Google" --- you're real great :-))
Best
regards,
Leopold
PS I can't
send you the map via Topica (too big file) --- but I'll try to fix something on
my web site ---
De: "Ron Bridge" <rwbridge@freeuk.com>
À: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>; "M
and D Beard" <phoenix7788@hotmail.com>; "Donald Menzi"
<dmenzi@earthlink.net>; "Mary Previte" <mtprevite@aol.com>;
"Janette & Pierre @ home" <pierre.ley@pandora.be>;
"Zandy" <dzijen@bigpond.net.au>
Objet: Re: superposition of Weifang & CACW
Date: mercredi 19 juillet 2006 19:06
I will do
some work on it I am still not sure about the scale of the various sketch maps
that we have seen over the years, Given that the rooms in the hutted rows were
12 ft x 8ft 10 inches that makes each block of 12 rooms 106 feet long without
any walls we know the walls were 1 1/4 bricks wide i.e. 12 inches and for 12
rooms there would be 13 walls giving a total block length of 119 feet i.e.
nearly 40 yards from the scales quoted in the various books with maps the
average seem to suggest that each block was only around 27 yards ( 80 feet) i.e.
making each room just over 6 feet6 wide which we know is wrong.
In summary
I think that the superimposing is slewed and that it should extend to the left.
That is a first assessment
Rgds
Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald Menzi
To: Ron Bridge
Cc: weihsien
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: superposition of
Weifang & CACW
Ron,
I
agree with you about the likelihood that the hand-drawn versions of the
Weihsien maps are likely to be a little off in scale - very understandable if
you can imagine how you would do it without any surveyor's instruments.
My
urban planner's instincts tell me that the outer boundaries then are likely to
be reflected in street patterns now, and so I have superimposed my own guess as
to the locations of the perimeter walls on the attached image as red
lines.
Actually,
that it's a tribute to the original map-makers that they got it as close to
exactly right as they did.
Donald
De: "Ron Bridge" <rwbridge@freeuk.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: superposition of Weifang & CACW
Date: vendredi 21 juillet 2006 0:45
Donald,
I totally
agree with you I have done some playing around with a pair of dividers although
not a town planner I was taught aerial reconnaissance 50 years ago and all my life
have been in and out of maps and mapping.
I think
that the west boundary of the camp coincided with the N/S road that is now
there that the south boundary ran along that road tree lined running south of
eat interesting how the corner cut off is the same relative shapes the Camp
wall. The blocks 50 and the hospital are correctly to scale but that the scale
to the NW of the camp with the long blocks was at about 80% of the rest.
If this
theory is correct the block with the Blue roof is on the site of the old Block
24 and 23.
AS you say
town planning follows road lines and vice versa some of
The other
point about the sketch maps is the size of the field in the NW corner it was
too small for baseball but OK for softball, that has a 30 yd diamond. I also
seem to remembers that when soccer football was played the penalty and goal area was combined and that
the whole field was 75% of an actual official soccer field which would make
it 80 yards. I think that that has been
cut off when the E/W road at the intersection with the N/S road (top left of
map) was cut and that "Tin Pan Alley (also known as Rocky Road) was there
by the side of what now looks like a running track and that the Main Street
should be were the superimposed Tin Pan Alley now is.
We will get
there in the end.
Rgds
Ron
De: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: superposition of Weifang & CACW
Date: samedi 22 juillet 2006 13:01
Dear Ron,
--- click
on this link:
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/maps/GoogleEarth/p_Weifang_CACW.htm
Your
remarks were most constructive.
I got the
two Japanese villas wrong --- so I changed the shape of Father Verhoeven's map
to make the villas coincide with the two other ones. Block 23 is now in the
right place and so are Block-50 and the Jap-villa just in front of it. Now, the
sketched hospital is much bigger than the real one.
I'd say
that the West boundary is correct because if you look at the aerial view taken
by the B-29 in 1945 (sent to us by David Beard) the actual road - N/S orientation
±182°) is just West of the river-curve . That actual road passes between our
camp and the outer wall or ditch excavated by the Japanese after Tipton and
Hummel's escape. One more detail: the exact position of Eric Liddel's grave
(plot-59) can now be ± located in the small garden behind (or in front) of a
building built on our old cemetery.
click on
this link:
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/NormanCliff/people/individuals/Eric01/p_grave_1991.htm
All the
best,
Leopold
De: "Ron Bridge" <rwbridge@freeuk.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: superposition of Weifang & CACW
Date: samedi 22 juillet 2006 13:26
Leopold,
We are getting
there. I have got copies of the rest of those aerial shots of Weihsien. I will
see if I can relate into bends in the river but the course of that might have
changed. We are also not sure if the North on Fr Verhoven map is True or
Magnetic and I need to establish variation circa 1944
I also have the very detailed survey map of
the graveyard with all those that were buried within the walls, some outside in
July.Aug45.
I have been
tied up with other matters all week but the light is emerging at the end of the
tunnel!
Rgds
Ron
De: <mstanzick@hotmail.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE Tisha Metcalf
Date: lundi 24 juillet 2006 0:59
> Message -----
> From:
Joyce Cook
> To:
weihsien@topica.com
> Sent:
Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:41 AM
>
>
> Dear Greg and Pamela and other
Weihsieners. I also remember the play
with Professor Thomas and I too have all the signatures in my autograph book.
In fact I sang a duet sitting at a piano with Tisha Metcalf (Gerry Thomas'
stepdaughter) singing "September In The Rain" and also managed a solo
"Daddy Wouldn’t Buy Me A Bow Wow"
(Maybe it is a good thing recorders weren’t available in those days).
I met Tisha
a few years ago in
Best
regards.Joyce. Dear Joyce,
My name is
Moira Thomas Stanzick and I am Tisha Metcalf's sister. It is true that Tisha is almost blind but she
is not living in a nursing home.
She has a flat of her own in
I just
found this web sight and I love it. It's
nice to know that you remember Tisha and my father.
Fondly,
Moira
De: "Pamela Maters" <pamela@hendersonhouse.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: RE Tisha Metcalf
Date: lundi 24 juillet 2006 20:15
Hi Moira!
If you give
me your mailing address, I have a book for you.
I think
you'll enjoy your mother's antics in the first chapter. She was some lady!
Pamela
De: "Joyce Cook" <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: RE Tisha Metcalf
Date: mardi 25 juillet 2006 7:59
Dear Moira. I am thrilled to hear from you and
to know that Tisha has her own place and that she is all right. Do give her my
love and also to yourself. I send Tisha a Chrisamas card with my news every
year but I have not heard from her for the last two ore three years. I hope you
enjoy this site. It has given me so much pleasure. Is your little brother
Terence ? still around. I hope so. Regards Joyce Bradbury Cooke. Your ex
compound No. 2 neighbour.
De: "R. E. Stannard Jr." <restannardjr@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Contact for OCH in
Date: vendredi 28 juillet 2006 1:49
Natasha
Petersen
Can you
help me get in touch with Ed Immergluck for information on the Old China Hand
gathering in Portland Sept.10-13?
I signed
onto the weishen site only to get your e-mail address, which was only partially
visible when a google search on this topic led me to this site (verrrry
interesting!) and your exchange with Greg Leck. Greg is traveling in
(FYI the
I'm one of
six siblings who were born and/or were raised in
Did you
know the Scovels at Weishen? Carl was one of our gang of five who ran together
on the repatriation ships, and after WWII we were schoolmates at
Anyhow I'd
be grateful if you can put us in touch with Ed Immergluck. Several of us are
considering attending.
Ted
Stannard
R.E.Stannard Jr. (Ted)
& Femmy T.
Stannard
e-mail :
restannardjr@yahoo.com femmystannard@yahoo.com backup : stannard@cc.wwu.edu phone: (360) 392-0712 postal :
De: "R. E. Stannard Jr." <restannardjr@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: OCH in
Date: vendredi 28 juillet 2006 5:19
Natasha
Petersen -- belay my earlier query. My
sister has located a lost letter and provided Ed Immergluck's contact
information. For others thinking of attending the Old China Hand gathering in
Portland Ore Sept.10-13, Ed's contact information is:
Ed
Immergluck, co-organizer
541-754-0808,
Fax 541-754-2626
e-mail:
IMMER0808@msn.com
Regards to
anyone here who was on the 1943 Gripshom exchange. I've often wondered what
happened to the other three kids in our gang: Johnny Hayes, Charlie Loucks, and
David Philippi. The names mean anything to anyone here?
Ted
Stannard
De: "Joyce Cook" <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Contact for OCH in
Date: vendredi 28 juillet 2006 8:54
Scovels
were, I am pretty sure, in our compound No. 2. It was a large family and I
think the father was a Dr. Scovel.The children if I remember correctly were
qualified to be issued with an egg a day each and I can remember Mrs. Scovel
saying Sunnyside up or sunnysidedown? Joyce Bradbury (nee Cooke)-----
De: <suishude@sohu.com>
À: "DallasSwan" <DallasSwan@aol.com>
Objet: From Weifang
Date: jeudi 17 août 2006 17:42
From Sui
Shude, Weifang
Today Last
year, August 17th 2006, Weifang People's Government and Weifang Foreign Affairs
Office held the celebration on "The 60th Anniversary of the Liberation of the
Weihsien Camp" in
Today, as
the contacting organizer of the celebration meeting, I am thinking of you all,
who came to the celebration, who contacted me for information of the event and
who visited the camp-site with me.....
I wish you
all the best and look forward to see any of you again in Weifang.
Sui Shude
Foreign and
Overseas Chinese Affairs Office of Weifang People's Government E-mail: suishude@sohu.com
E-Mail: emailshude@yahoo.com.cn<p>Tel/Fax:++86-536-8233692
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: Emmanuel.
Date: jeudi 24 août 2006 11:42
Hello,
--- does anybody have more details about this "secret-defence-group"????
Best regards,
Leopold
----- Original Message -----
From: Father Hanquet
To: Cliffnorman@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: Emmanuel.
Dear Norman,
In answer to your question of July 02, I cannot tell you more than what I already wrote in our chat on "Topica": I remember that upon our return from the field where we cheered the arrival of Major Staiger and his group on August 17, 1945 around 12 a.m., we approached the wall of the ball field, he came down of our shoulders and said:
"You stop here. Now, it is our turn to act."
He had orders to rescue the inmates of our camp and probably knew that the Japanese guards had to surrender but that was not so sure. So we let him go with the other paratroopers.
At that moment, I noticed two of our inmates (Roy Chu and Wade) standing on watch on the other side of the wall. One had a hatchet in his hand and the other a long kitchen knife hidden inside his jacket. Both of them had put on their sleeve the red armband that they had to wear in town before coming to camp.
Later, I asked them why they were on watch there and they told me that they were members of a small secret defence group who had mission to fight for our lives against the Japanese guards, in case they did not accept to surrender. I never asked for the details. I suppose that they disbanded since their group was no longer necessary.
Yours very friendly,
Father Hanquet
----- Original Message -----
From: Cliffnorman@aol.com
To: tapol@skynet.be
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 8:08 PM
Subject: Emmanuel.
Dear Leopold and Nicky,
Would you consider asking Emmanuel to tell us all about the defence group which was ready to resist the Japs if they resisted the surrender - who they were, how they prepared themselves for this eventuality? This is just a suggestion.
I am busy getting ready to go to the East.
Yours aye,
Norman
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Cc: "Gordon Helsby" <ghelsby@capincrouse.com>
Objet: new chapter, new
book
Date: jeudi 31 août 2006 17:54
dear all,
Gordon Helsby just sent his parents' book about Weihsien Prison Camp.
I started with the pictures and now I'm busy with the chapters ---
go to
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/GordonHelsby/indexFrame.htm
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "Greg
Leck" <gregleck@epix.net>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: weihsien - via satelite
Date: dimanche
17 septembre 2006 23:01
Dear Leopold,
I just got back from the Old China Hands
Reunion in
While there, several people asked me about a Belgian girl who was interned in Lunghwa - Aline "Poupee" Bodson.
Is there anyway to determine if she
returned to
Perhaps Fr. Hanquet would know something? She may have married. Her parents were Robert and Alphonsine Bodson, and she had a sister, Claudine.
Thanks for any suggestions you can offer.
regards,
Greg
De:
<grannydavies@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: weihsien - via satelite
Date: lundi 18
septembre 2006 0:20
Sorry Greg, do not recall a
-----
Original Message -----
From: Tapol
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:39 AM
Subject: your book,
Dear Greg,
We finally received your books --- you sent
by "air-mail" on June 20th!
Magnificent work. Congratulations :-))
On page 495, at the bottom-right is a photo -"Inside the
transport"- --- On the right of the picture is my mother holding our
Weihsien-born sister - Mary-Lou and next to my mother is a little boy
seeming to be on another planet. Well, that's me !! I remember that flight back
to
Thanks very much Greg ---
Leopold
-----
Original Message -----
From: Tapol
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: your book,
Dear Greg,
Thanks again for sending a better
definition of that photograph by separate e-mail. I did not recognize him at
first, --- but the man with the worried look at my right is my father. He was
certainly wondering at "what was going to happen next ----"
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "Joyce
Cook" <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: Saw
this on the news
Date: vendredi 13 octobre 2006 4:10
This email was received from Margo Shiels an ex Shanghai resident and it interests me a gcreat deal and I am sure it will interest many who have been classified as "Not British Enough" I do not have Ronald Bridges address unfortunately but I am sure he ought to be aware of this. I will ask Margo for the source of the article. Best wishes Joyce
Bradbury
----- Original Message -----
From: Margo Shiels
To: Bradbury, Joyce
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 2:58 PM
Subject: Fw: Saw this on
the news
Subject: Saw this on the news
Joyce
Can you make a claim?
Margo Shiels
Pensioner wins WWII compo battle
From correspondents in
October 11, 2006 03:04am
Article from: Agence
France-Presse
Send this article: Print Email
AN 83-year-old woman told she was not
British enough to receive compensation for being interned by the Japanese
during World War II has won her legal battle with
Diana Elias was held in a prisoner of war
camp for four years from the age of 17 with her parents, who were from
She was refused a payment under a ministry
compensation scheme for internees because of a rule which disqualified those
who were not born in the
But
In a strong criticism of ministers' handling of the case, presiding judge Lord Justice John Mummery told the court: "The result of inadequate preparation has been an embarrassing administrative and legal muddle, personal pain, charges of incompetence, costly litigation and political apologies."
The ministry had appealed against a High Court ruling last year which found that the blood-link rule constituted unlawful discrimination on the grounds of race. This was dismissed by the court.
An estimated £250 million ($628.54 million) has been paid under the internees compensation scheme to about 25,000 applicants.
Mrs Elias, of north
De: "Ron
Bridge" <rwbridge@freeuk.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Saw this on
the news
Date: vendredi 13 octobre 2006 10:25
Thanks for that I am very much involved in this and an another case which will be heard in December. I have got the 120 pages of Judgement which I
Have managed to condense to 63!! The Lady concerned was in Stanley Camp HK.
The judgment effects about 600 who have been
excluded because the Ministry of Defence
Rgds
Ron
De: "Joyce
Cook" <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Saw this on the news
Date: samedi 14 octobre 2006 5:48
Thank you Ron. As you know my brother Eddie and I have been excluded but are both very anxious to obtain justice in this case. Therefore any information we can get relative to the present and forthcoming proceedings will be important to us. We will keep watching. Regards.Joyce Bradbury.
De: "Ron
Bridge" <rwbridge@freeuk.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Saw this on the news
Date: samedi 14 octobre 2006 11:45
Joyce, Kevin and any one else involved.
The MoD are still wriggling I am just about to deal with them as one does with a poison snake.
Make sure you keep your case alive by writing to ask if the Diana Elais Court of Appeal Judgement effects your claim, make sure that you tell them that you are aggrieved and a former British internee at being discriminated against because of your PLACE of birth and what are they going to do about it. If they send you a 20 year claim form answer it truthfully but ensure that you place on it "That notwithstanding the fact that I do not comply with this arbitrary rule imposed 60 plus years after the event that you were interned as a British Subject, that you were wronged by the British Government when they reviewed the 1951 San Francisco Peace Treaty terms in the 1950s and refused to reopen the Treaty under Article 26 as legally entitled to do to get a better deal from Japan.
IF anyone would like to copy the text of their letter and their own circumstances to me I will put you on the list of cases to be solved. MY own
e-mail is rwbridge@freeuk.com
Rgds
Ron
MY problem to date is that there are about 600 cases out there and I only know the names of less then half
De: "Joyce
Cook" <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Saw this on the news
Date: dimanche 15 octobre 2006 10:48
Thanks Ron. We will do as you advise and hope we will succeed this time. Thanks. Joyce Cooke / Bradbury..
De: "Tapol"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Cc: "Janette
& Pierre @ home" <pierre.ley@pandora.be>
Objet: Re:
any messages
Date: mardi 28
novembre 2006 12:23
Hello,
Is everyboy OK? :-))
Nothing special, --- out here in
We are still studying Greg Leck's book --- a heavyweight of information and very pleasant to read.
Went to visit Father Hanquet a few days
ago. At 91-and-a-half he is in good health and full of stories to tell about
The Olympic games of 2008 are just behind the temporal horizon. I guess that our Weifang friends will not let that pass without mentioning Eric Liddell and the Weihsien-Concentration-Camp. Anyone knows something about that?
Best regards,
Leopold
PS My "web-site" has nothing new since a few months already --- I'd gladly add --- whatever ???
----- Original Message -----
From: "
To: <weihsien@topica.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:36 PM
Subject: RE: any messages
> Natasha,
> I am still on the planet.BUt have had nothing
> Rgds
> Ron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Natasha Petersen [mailto:np57@cox.net]
> Sent: 25 November 2006 14:08
> To: weihsien@topica.com
> Subject: any
messages
>
> Has anyone received or sent messages since October 15th.? I have not.
>
> Natasha Petersen
>
De: "Donald
Menzi" <jweprinmenzi@earthlink.net>
À:
"weihsien" <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Off the List?
Date: mercredi 29 novembre 2006 9:55
Jane just got an email from Leopold that I didn't receive. If this means that I got dropped from the list, will someone please put me back on?
Thanks.
We just had a visit from Sui Shude, who was
the translator for a group of 6 transportation system management people from
Weifang. He says that the museum centre
is being staffed on a full-time basis, and that they have tour groups visiting
it several times a month, in addition to local citizenry. Also, that the school has been transformed
into
All the best to all of us.
Donald
De:
"Natasha Petersen" <np57@cox.net>
À:
"weihsien" <weihsien@topica.com>
Cc: "Jane Weprin-Menzi" <jweprinmenzi@earthlink.net>
Objet: off/on listing
Date: mercredi 29 novembre 2006 18:52
Donald,
I checked. You are still on the list. I do not know why you did not receive the email. I will try to remember to check with you next time a message is posted.
Hope that your Thanksgiving was wonderful, and I wish you a most holy Christmas.
Natasha
De: "Gay Talbot Stratford" <stillbrk@eagle.ca>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Seasons Greetings
Date: dimanche 10 décembre 2006 23:07
May everyone experience the happiness of this time of year,and every best wish for the New Year.
I received a photograph taken by a Japanese photographer for propaganda purposes during our first year in Weihsien. Three charming young ladies were in the foreground. Barbara Barnes was the name of one; I was rather dour in the background.
It was truly a whisper from the past.
Regards to all,
Gay Talbot
De: "Buddy
Graant" <jlgrant@sympatico.ca>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Seasons Greetings
Date: lundi 11 décembre 2006 3:17
Wishing everyone who was in Weihsien a very Merry Xmas and many more to follow.
I now live in
John Grant (a.k.a. Buddy)
De:
<gregleck@epix.net>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Weihsien photos
Date: mardi 12
décembre 2006 2:21
I wonder if this photo was one I saw in the Japanese archives?
There are a number of people pictured who should be clear enough to identify, though I have not had a lot of success in doing so when I have showed the photos at various talks.
On the other hand, several have recognized people in the groups photographed leaving camp by USAAF transports.
regards,
Greg
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsien photos
Date: mardi 12
décembre 2006 17:39
Dear Greg,
Could you put those pictures on the Internet so we ca also see them --- ?
Thanks in advance :-))
Merry X'mas and Happy New Year to all
Leopold
De:
<MTPrevite@aol.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Weihsien band and
Weihsien orchestra
Date: vendredi
15 décembre 2006 2:32
Hello, Everyone:
Peter Bazire in the
His mother, Eileen Bazire, an artist and a musician
with the
So far Peter has talked to Nelma Stranks
Davies in
Peter has also talkled with Joyce
Stranks Cotterill in the
If you have memories or information about the Weihsien orchestra or band, please contact Peter Bazire at _psbazire@yahoo.co.uk_ (mailto:psbazire@yahoo.co.uk )
***
A journalist at the Fort Monmouth
(USA) Army base has
written a series of articles about Nisei who served in the
Tad continues farming his land in
In January, Tad will celebrate his 87th birthday.
Jim Hannon, the other surviving liberator of Weihsien, is in fragile health.
If you'd like to send Chridstmas cards and/or notes of appreciation their
addresses are:
Tad Nagaki,
Phone: 308-762-2968
Jim Hannon,
Phone: 760-365-2210
Mary Previte
De:
<MTPrevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Story about
Weihsien liberator, Tad Nagaki
Date: dimanche 17 décembre 2006 2:25
This story was written by a reporter for the newspaper that serves Fort
Soldier becomes ‘Armored Angel’ freeing prisoners
by Renita Foster
Sgt. Tad Nagaki didn’t notice the cumbersome parachute and combat equipment strapped to his body as he
struggled to climb aboard the B-24
Liberator Bomber in
Reports had reached American headquarters in
Determined to make one last difference as World War II came to an end, especially
since so many lives were at stake,
Nagaki immediately volunteered for the mission. As the “Armored Angel” droned toward Weihsien Concentration Camp in
the
Almost four years earlier on Dec. 7, 1941, Nagaki was having a grand time visiting
“I never heard an announcement of any kind that day about the
bombing,” said Nagaki. “I was in
Although Nagaki was the only Nisei (second generation Japanese American) in his unit, he never noticed any different treatment until his outfit deployed without him.
But
Instead, Nagaki was transferred to
“I couldn’t believe it,” said Nagaki. “There’s a war going on and other ‘Americans’ are allowed to go and fight. But I’m stuck cleaning up an Army post! Is that any way to treat a devoted American Soldier when his country’s threatened?”
Then one morning as he prepared for daily details, Nagaki saw an announcement posted on the camp bulletin board. It was a request for volunteers for a special Nisei warfare unit. After two long, unsuccessful years of “begging” for combat duty, Nagaki grabbed the opportunity to join the 442nd Regimental Combat Team (RCT).
During infantry training at Camp Shelby, Mississippi, the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) petitioned for Nisei volunteers in intelligence work described as “more hazardous than combat” and “a one-way ticket.” As someone who lived for adventure and action, Nagaki was a natural.
Fourteen out of 23 were selected for an elite team of Nisei in OSS Detachment 101, including Nagaki. His Japanese reading and writing abilities acquired while attending Japanese summer school as a youngster proved invaluable.
After expert training in parachuting, radio operations, infiltration, survival,
hand-to-hand combat, cryptography and
guerrilla tactics, Nagaki’s unit jumped into
“We Niseis had bonded together for the sole purpose of proving our patriotism. And the significant strength in the brotherhood we felt was our secret weapon,” said Nagaki.
“And we all knew how much more dangerous the duties were for us if captured by the Japanese.”
While living in straw huts and adjusting to insects and K-rations, Nagaki accumulated valuable tactical experiences like sabotage and hit and run harassment operations. He also translated enemy documents and prepared propaganda literature.
Additionally, Nagaki trained two platoons of Kachin and Shan tribesmen in north
and central
“I volunteered to go behind the Japanese forces while stationed in
Parachuting was the only way in so that helped me earn airborne wings. It might not have been the same as being an airplane pilot, but I did get wings!” grinned Nagaki.
Nagaki began the journey to Weihsien Concentration Camp on August 17, 1945.
Located in the
” The Japanese had surrendered three days earlier, but none of the 1500 prisoners in the camp knew the war was over.
The B-24 flew as close to the trees as possible to ensure the jump was a short one, just 400 feet in fact. The maneuver deprived the Japanese guards space and time to fire at the rescuers.
Nagaki was astonished at the sight below as the bomber circled the area. The prisoners, many of which were children, were running wildly toward the gates as they realized freedom was just moments away. Thunderous cheering and shouting, even dancing greeted the rescuers as the floated towards the earth. The team had barely touched the ground when they were mobbed by the exhilarated POWs and brought back to the camp. Although the guards had initially pointed weapons at the prisoners, they now retreated to their barracks.
“They knew the war was over,” said Nagaki. “We contacted the Commandant and there was a quick, peaceful surrender.”
A parade of worshipers followed the American Soldiers everywhere, begging for souvenirs like buttons, insignia and pieces of parachute. One little girl cut off hair from Nagaki’s head while another woman insisted he autograph her baby’s bonnet. The Americans delighted the POWs in return with treats of Juicy Fruit Chewing Gum and chocolate.
The children added to the celebration by relentlessly singing ‘You Are My Sunshine’ and Maresey Doats and Doesey Doats and Little Lambsey Divey.’ After learning American songs from their rescuers, the children continually sang those as well.
Among the prisoners was Mary Previte, a future Assemblywoman in the
“I was very surprised and also very delighted the first time Mary contacted me,” said Nagaki. “She had tried contacting other members of the rescue team and only found widows. I was the first one she found alive so she was veryemotional as well. One of the questions she asked me was how I felt about being followed by children every where that day and I told her like being on a pedestal. I still remembered the event quite well, right down to the little girl cutting off some of my hair for a souvenir.”
Previte still calls Nagaki every holiday, including this last Thanksgiving.
She also sends him a birthday card every
year. More than 20,000 Allied POWs were liberated from
(Editor’s Note: This is the sixth story in a series featuring the Nisei (second generation Japanese Americans) during World War II.
Picture caption: Nisei MIS attached to
Caption: Sgt. Tad Nagaki (left), interpreter, and T/4 Raymond N. Hanchulak, medic, are awarded the Soldier’s Medal for heroism for helping to liberate 1,400 allied prisoners from the Weihsien Civilian Assembly Center in China’s Shantung Province, August 1945. Photo courtesy Mary T. Previte. #
De: "Dwight W. Whipple" <thewhipples@comcast.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Story about
Weihsien liberator, Tad Nagaki
Date: dimanche 17 décembre 2006 2:45
Nice to see Weihsien "talk" again after a long hiatus. Our family was repatriated in 1943 so we were not around for the liberation. I always felt cheated about that when I was young. I was seven years old during repatriation and remember it like it was yesterday but when I heard about planes and parachutes at Weihsien I often wished we had stayed in the camp. In fact, our parents offered our places to others, older and medical needs being a priority, but we were told that no changes could be made to the lists that were posted. So we left Weihsien in September 1943. The story of Tad Nagaki is touching. Thanks, Mary, for making it available.
~Dwight W. Whipple
De: "georgeanna knisely" <jknisely@paonline.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Story about
Weihsien liberator, Tad Nagaki
Date: lundi 18
décembre 2006 22:05
Dear Mary,
Thank you for all your past work and this report. Wonderful keeping up.
I wonder how many people have written
stories just for their families that we will never see, but whom we lived
through Weihsien and other times in
With appreciation, Georgie
De:
<MTPrevite@aol.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Story about
Weihsien liberator, Tad Nagaki
Date: mercredi 20 décembre 2006 5:32
You're right, Georgie:
I'm sure there are personal records and diaries out there
Happy Christmas.
Mary
De: "Joyce
Cook" <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: Story
about Weihsien liberator, Tad Nagaki
Date: lundi 25 décembre 2006 0:23
To all WeiHsieners and friends. Bob and I wish you a very merry
Christmas and a Happy and healthy New Year. Jopyce Bradbury nee Cooke.----- Original Message -----
From: MTPrevite@aol.com
To: weihsien@topica.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: Story about Weihsien liberator, Tad Nagaki
You're right, Georgie:
I'm sure there are personal records and diaries out there
Happy Christmas.
Mary
De:
"Alexander Strangman" <dzijen@bigpond.net.au>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Yule-tide greetings
Date: lundi 25
décembre 2006 5:39
To my fellow internees,
Wishing you a joyful Christmas season with peace and contentment in 2007.
Zandy
De:
<grannydavies@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Yule-tide greetings
Date: mardi 26
décembre 2006 2:33
Have a blessed Christmas,
Phyllis