De:
<grannydavies@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Yule-tide
greetings
Date: mardi 26 décembre 2006
2:33
Have a blessed Christmas= Phyllis
De: "Greg Leck"
<gregleck@epix.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Weihsien
photos
Date: jeudi 4 janvier 2007 20:20
I sent a message to Topica relating to the Weihsien photos but did not receive the message myself.
Did anyone else get it?
Greg
De: "Buddy Graant"
<jlgrant@sympatico.ca>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsien
photos
Date: vendredi 5 janvier 2007
7:06
Greg,
I got the email without any photo attachments.
John (Buddy) Grant
De: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsien
photos
Date: vendredi 5 janvier 2007
9:16
unfortunately not
:-(
Question: Is there a link to your other web-site?
--- could you send it again? :-))
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "Greg Leck"
<gregleck@epix.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Weihsien
photographs
Date: lundi 8 janvier 2007 2:24
Gay Talbot Stratford mentioned she received a photograph taken in Weihsien.
(Gay - was this recently? What was the source?) From her description of it, it sounds like the same photo I found and published on page 158 of my book, Captives of Empire.
I have now forwarded the photographs of 53 individuals, taken in March of 1943, shortly after the arrival of internees in Weihsien, to Leopold.
Hopefully he can get them up on his website and we can identify some of these individuals.
Leopold recognized his mother in a shot of internees leaving camp on a transport plane, and Judith Hamin recognized herself and her husband Boris playing the piano. I'm sure others in the photos are still out there.
Greg
De: "Marti Suddarth"
<MarthaSuddarth@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsien
photographs
Date: lundi 8 janvier 2007 17:28
In a message dated 1/7/2007 7:24:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
gregleck@epix.net writes:
> I
have now forwarded the photographs of 53 individuals, taken in March of 1943, shortly
after the arrival of internees in Weihsien, to Leopold.
>
Hi, Greg! Can you tell me where these photos are being posted? I'd like to
look for my grand-aunt, Martha Kramer.
THANK YOU!
Marti (Kramer) Suddarth
De: "Tracy Strong" <tstrong@weber.ucsd.edu>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Weihsien
photographs
Date: lundi 8 janvier 2007 19:43
Might I trouble you for the url of Leopold's website?
Thanks
Tracy B. Strong
De: "Gay Talbot Stratford"
<stillbrk@eagle.ca>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsien
photographs
Date: lundi 8 janvier 2007 22:18
Greg,
I received a copy of the photograph from Desmond Power, who was an old family friend. He explained that it was taken by a Japanese press photographer in 1943, and it had come to light from one of his sources. There were three girls in the foreground, one i recognised as Barbara Barnes. The other two were Greek I think. I have not read your book, so cannot confirm or deny that the photograph was in your book. Perhaps Desmond can help.
Best wishes,
Gay
De: "Pamela Maters"
<pamela@hendersonhouse.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsien
photographs
Date: lundi 8 janvier 2007 22:30
If they were Greek, they were probably the Marinellis girls. I don't recall their names, but they would be the sisters of Alex Marinellis
Pamela
Pamela
Masters - Author/Publisher
Titles:
The Mushroom Years, Sass & Serendipity
Phone:
530-647-2000
Fax:
530-647-2002
pamela@hendersonhouse.com
http://www.hendersonhouse.com
De: "Greg Leck"
<gregleck@epix.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Weihsien
photographs
Date: mardi 9 janvier 2007 1:19
I'm sure the photo was the one I found in the archives, and Desmond recognized you and passed it on.
Yes, you do look kind of dour!
I'm glad that another face has been identified!
De: <MTPrevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsien
photographs
Date: mardi 9 janvier 2007
16:38
_http://www.weihsien-paintings.org_
(http://www.weihsien-paintings.org
)
De: "Tapol"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: greg's portraits
Date: mardi 9 janvier 2007 18:57
Hello,
Could "07b" be Father deJaegher?
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsien
photographs
Date: mercredi 10 janvier 2007
0:56
Dear Greg,
On which page of your book can we find that photograph?
---
I just finished adding the 53 portraits on the Weihsien-paintings' web-site. To do so, I created a new chapter --- "From Greg Leck" and there is a lot of free space to add whatever. If anybody recognises somebody --- just click on the "send-me-a-mail" sign and I will add the info on the who's who page. Of course, you can also send a mail to Weihsien Topica if you have a mail-box open there. Oh! Yes! --- don't forget to put the "number" of the picture of the person you have identified ---- Thanks :-))
Click on: http://www.weihsien-paintings.org
All the best ---
Leopold
De: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsien
photographs
Date: mercredi 10 janvier 2007 7:12
Ooops --- I read too fast ---- The picture is on page 158 !!!!
De: "Pamela Maters"
<pamela@hendersonhouse.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsien
photographs
Date: mercredi 10 janvier 2007 8:08
I'm sorry, but I didn't recognize anyone in Greg Leck's photos.
Pamela
Pamela Masters –
De: "Greg Leck"
<gregleck@epix.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Weihsien
photographs
Date: mercredi 10 janvier 2007 10:11
The photo described by Gay Talbot is, I believe, the one on page 158.
De: "Alexander
Strangman" <dzijen@bigpond.net.au>
À:
"Weihsien-paintings" <info@weihsien-paintings.org>
Objet: Re: Re; Mug shots
Date: mercredi 10 janvier 2007
13:59
Leopold, by now you will also have the e-mail I sent marked to Greg's attention which I think is self explanatory and concerns 30d and 30e possibly being one of more in the group.
To be quite honest, I can't remember what Mrs. De Jong looked like now, except that she was a big woman. (a bit on the fat side.) And at 41 years of age, with 8 kids already, she couldn't have looked as young as the girl in 30e. Sorry, Janette.
Now, 10e and 10f could be sisters, don't you think? That's why I think it could be a help to know where they came from. And I'm getting into more trouble with my wife for living in the past! Ha, Ha!
Take it easy, Z
----- Original Message -----
From:
Weihsien-paintings
To:
Alexander Strangman
Cc:
Janette & Pierre @ home
Sent:
Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:01 PM
Subject: Re:
Re; Mug shots
Hello Zandy,
I just had Janette on the phone this morning and she thinks that "30e" could be Mrs. De Jong who lived in our block-22! She also told me not to put it on my web-site because she wasn't sure about it. What do you think?
all the best :-))
Leopold
----- Original Message -----
From: Alexander Strangman
To:
info@weihsien-paintings.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:52 AM
Subject: Re;
Mug shots
Hi Leopold,
Here is one 'certainty'.......
#10b is W.H.(Tony) Tolland (aged 58 at release) A Brit. from
!7a I have no idea who he is, but he looks like the same 'bakeryman' in that picture watching the girls playing softball.
By the way, do we know which camps these 53 people are from?
All the best , Zandy
De: "Alexander Strangman"
<dzijen@bigpond.net.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: greg's
portraits
Date: jeudi 11 janvier 2007 6:59
Sorry Leopold, absolutely not! Fr. de Jaegher wore glasses and had a round face. If I can locate the photo (I mentioned earlier to you) I'll forwarded it and you will see what I mean.
I've been looking long and hard at #08e and
the boy looks very much like John Beruldsen (14)who was a year older and a
grade above me at the
By the way, I did not read Greg's note
properly, so forget my question about which camp they all came from, and amend
the ages I put on my earlier email which was estimated age at 1945 in lieu of
1943. And further more, some look too
happy to be arriving in camp, but with so many wearing hats, I admit they do
look like they are going some where ! Zandy
De: "Alexander Strangman"
<dzijen@bigpond.net.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsien
photographs
Date: jeudi 11 janvier 2007
22:04
Attention Greg Leck
#10b was an easy I.D. W.H.(Tony) Tolland was a pre war friend of our family.
And it could aid the identification process if we knew or saw the setting from which the remaining 52 came.
ie; #17a's face has obviously been extracted from the photo of the man watching the girls softball game at Weihsien, and therefore unlikely to have been one of those 'snapped' upon arrival.
The girl's face in 30e is partially visible in 30d and they could be part of a larger group.
Also if 04a and 04b had been together, I'd have a good idea who they were. Further more, if the little girl in 03b happens to be the focus of their attention, I'd then have no doubt who they were.
In closing, let me also repeat that it was a pleasure to finally meet you in person, in December, and that my wife and I really enjoyed your book's terrific presentation on that warm evening at the State Library of NSW.
All the best,
Zandy
I have
now forwarded the photographs of 53 individuals, taken in March of 1943,
shortly after the arrival of internees in Weihsien, to Leopold.
Hopefully he can get them up on his website
and we can identify some of these individuals.
Leopold recognized his mother in a shot of
internees leaving camp on a transport plane, and Judith Hamin recognized
herself and her husband Boris playing the piano. I'm sure others in the photos are still out
there.
Greg
De: "Tapol"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw:
Date: vendredi 12 janvier 2007
9:17
Dear Joyce,
Thanks very much for your help :-))
--- I just added the name to the list
Best regards,
Leopold
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Bradbury
To: info@weihsien-paintings.org
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:44 PM
I think 16D is photo of one of the Turner twins, probably Michael who were in compound No. 2 right next door to our room. The other twin was Peter and he had a limp and wore a brace on one leg. Barbara Turner, their younger sister was also in the same room. Jopycer Bradbury/Cooke
----- Original Message -----
From: MTPrevite@aol.com
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 9:19 PM
Subject: Article
about Eric Liddell in
________________________________________
Hero honored
By Douglas Williams 2007-1-13
________________________________________
Olympic gold medal-winning runner Eric
Liddell will be celebrated tonight in a show called "Beyond the
Chariots," looking at the man's life and faith, from when he returned to
There was no small amount of hype
surrounding Eric Liddell in the run- up to the 1924 Paris Olympics. The British
public was quietly confident that their lightning-fast sprinter, born in
He did bring home gold, but not for the 100 meters.
Liddell's Scottish father, a missionary
working in
One of the qualifying heats for the 100m
final fell on a Sunday, the Sabbath, and Liddell refused to take part. One
Sunday, one race, Olympic gold at stake and the hopes of a nation - but the
Astonishingly he won, took gold and smashed the world record in the process. His refusal to run the 100m was big news but his victory sent shockwaves around the world.
It inspired the film "Chariots of
Fire," which won four Oscars, and the one-man show "Beyond the
Chariots" by Rich Swingle, which plays tonight in
"Beyond the Chariots" looks at
Liddell's life beyond the Olympics when he returned to
"Despite all the fame and adulation he
was showered with after the Olympics and all the career opportunities that were
presenting themselves at the time, Liddell chose to return to
"His daughters told me they found the show a cathartic experience," says Swingle. "It brought them a sense of closure."
Liddell sent his wife and daughters from
their
Swingle, also a runner, is returning to the
Chinese mainland for the first time in 20 years. "I competed in an
International Sports Exchange program in
As a competitive runner, Swingle listened to the "Chariots of Fire" Vangelis soundtrack before races.
"Liddell was obeying his calling when
he returned to
Liddell taught and worked as a missionary
in the
"Even as a prisoner Liddell continued
teaching and carrying out pastoral duties," says Swingle who bares a
remarkable similarity to Liddell. "In our research we've met several of
his students from both his time in
The show looks at how Liddell gets on with one of his students in the camp, the fictional Maiker, a Chinese who is also played by Liddle. "The two have a volatile relationship, with Maiker holding some resentment towards Liddell due to familial history. Maiker is basically anti-Westerner," explains Swingle.
"In the show I want to show that
although there were Westerners who came to
"I also hope to get across some of Liddell's philosophy. He was a great believer that if something is worth doing then it's worth doing well. I also think the message of Liddell's life is to love each other wholeheartedly no matter where we come from."
Liddell died in the camp in 1945, six
months before the end of the war, from a brain tumor brought on by overwork and
malnourishment. He is interred in the Mausoleum of Martyrs in
Time: January 13, 8pm
Venue: Community Center
Tel: 6247-2880
Tickets: Free
De: <grannydavies@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Article abiout Eric Liddell
in Shanghai Daily
Date: mardi 16 janvier 2007 2:20
Thanks for the article on Eric Liddell, we
all knew him in Weihsien, If saints walk on earth he was one of them MY family came from
Phyllis (evans) Davies
De: "Joyce Cook"
<bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Article abiout Eric Liddell
in Shanghai Daily
Date: mardi 16 janvier 2007 7:29
Phyllis. Do you remember me? - Joyce Cooke
(Now Bradbury) from
Regards. Joyce.
De:
<grannydavies@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Article abiout Eric Liddell in
Shanghai Daily
Date: mercredi 17 janvier 2007 5:03
How nice to hear from you, yes, I remember you and Serge Chunehen and I have corresponded all these years, He.s outside Sydney I also fondly remember Lucy Attree and Brian Clark I. Grannydavies @AOL.com and a great grandma.of two.
De: "Tapol"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: portraits,
Date: mercredi 17 janvier 2007 13:24
Hello,
I met Father Hanquet this morning and showed him all the portraits. At first, he didn't recognize anybody but told me that 17a could be J. Goyas --- who was very active in the black-market business ---
All the best,
Leopold
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org
De: "Alexander
Strangman" <dzijen@bigpond.net.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: portraits,
Date: jeudi 18 janvier 2007 4:00
Fr. Hanquet is too kind in pointing out Goyas was simply 'involved in the 'black-market' business'! Because in our Weihsien terminology, camp 'black-marketeering' was almost considered an honorable 'profession' but there was nothing honorable about our FAT 'friend' Goyas' activities there.
You see, even in camp he was not adverse to doing a bit of trading (solely for his own benefit) in jewelery, preferrably of the golden variety. I've got no idea where his money came from, but no surprise, he always came out the winner in each of his lop sided deals.
But what Goyas was more notorious for in camp, and Fr. Hanquet may remember this, was his blatant avoidance of any work detail and shamelessly refusing to do his share of work in camp?
I'm sure Langdon Gilkey covered this episode in his book, and who better placed to report on the fat man's LAZY trait than the author of 'Shandung Compound', who just happened to be on the 'Work Detail Committee' himself, at the time.
Finally, it was also common knowledge the WDC discussed various options to try and force him into complying with his obligations but for one reason or another, it was all to no avail.
However, in my opinion the face in 17a isn't that of Goyas! The 17a 'snap' looks like an extraction from the photo of the girls playing softball. 17a matches the face of the man wearing white overalls and being near the bakery suggests he was having a break from all that heavy work, 'kneading' dough! But that sort of dough was definetly not Goyas' type!
Furthermore, he was a lot more rotund than the man watching the game.
De: "David Birch"
<gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: "Weihsien"
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: portraits, and
"Uncle Jacob" Goyas
Date: jeudi 18 janvier 2007
5:05
Very interesting observations Zandy! Your reminiscing causes memories to flood back to me too! I clearly recall some of the younger children facetiously referring to Goyas as Uncle Jacob. I don't think anyone really had any sort of respect for the old slacker! I also recall hearing, way back in those far-off days, that when Jacob Goyas refused to do his share of work at the pump by the ladies' showers, Mr Stewart, whom we all respected greatly and who trained many of us boys in Block 61 in a sort of Weihsien Camp Cadet Corps, Mr Stewart was reputed to have given this rotund sluggard a well-deserved black eye! Whether it actually happened or was just part of camp legend, Goyas certainly had it coming!
Again Zandy, thanks for the recollections - you certainly have a sharp memory after more than sixty years since liberation!
Regards
David Birch
De: "Joyce Cook"
<bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: portraits, and
"Uncle Jacob" Goyas
Date: jeudi 18 janvier 2007 5:54
I also recall stories about him lending people money in the camp on condition the borrower signed an IOU for redemption after the War ended. My girl friend told me ( and she is still alive) that he had a pile of IOU's in his hand one day and he was counting them up. My mother remarked in the camp that he was disgusting. He was short, fat and with a tanned complexion. My father was wary of him because he was told that he was a spy for the Japanese. He was very affable when met walking around the camp but nobody trusted him. Joyce Cooke (Bradbury).-----
De: "lucy lu"
<lucy9859@hotmail.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: portraits, and
"Uncle Jacob" Goyas
Date: jeudi 18 janvier 2007
6:20
how intersting story!
I’m lucy from foreign and overseas Chinese
affairs office of weifang city (the former weihsien),
In 2005, we held a series of commemorative activities to mark the 60th anniversary of the liberation of weihsien camp. Before and after that, we’ve made a lot for it, and been keeping in touch with the former internees or their friends.
In 2007, we’ll make a documentary and film about the weihisen camp. So we’ll go abroad to interview the former internees or their friends and relatives, and collect materials for them. I think all of you here would like to provide us with something about the camp, like Eric Liddel or children in Cheffo prep-school and so on.
Anything about the camp will be warmly welcomed.
thanks!
keep in touch.
lucy
De: "Greg Leck"
<gregleck@epix.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: portraits, and
"Uncle Jacob" Goyas
Date: jeudi 18 janvier 2007 6:48
I think Goyas, who was a Uruguayan merchant, was beaten up by two taipans in camp, after he refused to do his assigned duty rotation at manning a pump..
Such beatings also occurred in other camps, though usually as the result of personal animosities.
De: "David Birch"
<gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: portraits, and
"Uncle Jacob" Goyas
Date: jeudi 18 janvier 2007
7:22
Greg,
That is interesting! I was thirteen years old when I manned that very pump at the ladies' showers'!
Weihsien had a very well-organized and run camp committee, as I'm sure you well know through all your research for your book. This committee was in turn broken down into other committees, one of which was Weihsien Camp's highly respected Discipline Committee. Any acts of violence would certainly have been reported to the Discipline Committee which was headed by a very fair, but firm, Scotsman named Mr McLaren. No one wanted to be reported to McLaren and so such incidents would have been few and far between.
Uncle Jacob was a bit of a legend to us youngsters in the camp. Actually, as Joyce recalls, he was quite friendly. But just don't try to enter into business dealings with him.
David
De: "Alexander
Strangman" <dzijen@bigpond.net.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: portraits, and
"Uncle Jacob" Goyas
Date: jeudi 18 janvier 2007
11:04
This is getting more amusing by the day, so what will we have by the end of the week ?
So far we've got this Ol' uncle Jacob sporting a black eye and coming away with a fist full of IOUs, (according to reliable sources.) But my better judgement tells me it is most unlikely 'he' would have lent anyone hard cash for a 'pile' of IOUs, especially for redemption after the war. How much money could he have had?
My earlier statement was made on a first hand bases. You may remember we were all 'dying' for that extra little bit of 'grub' that our comfort money just couldn't cover and after hearing about this 'fella' who was actually dealing in a pawn shop type way, my mother called him in. For the sake of her growing teen age son, she had to turn up something of value, and all she had to part with, was one English Gold Sovereign.
What etches this incident so indelibly in my mind, is that I got back to our room just in time to catch him standing over my mother, pressuring her to show him what else she had in her 'steamer trunk'.
At the time, that was certainly no laughing matter but I've just pulled out my old camp list and had to have a bit of a chuckle to see my notation ........"ROGUE"......marked between his name and " 44 M Uraguayan Merchant "
David, regarding your comment on memory, it's an interesting subject.....why do we remember certain things?
When you find out, let me know the answer and the reasons. Maybe then I'll be able to 'delete' those scary moments!
Take it easy,
Zandy
De: "Pamela Maters"
<pamela@hendersonhouse.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: portraits, and
"Uncle Jacob" Goyas
Date: jeudi 18 janvier 2007 19:19
I'm johnny-come-lately to this discussion, but wasn't Goyas the gentleman -- and I use the term loosely --who was kicking himself in the butt because he had 7 passports to countries in Central and South America, and happened to show the wrong one to the Japanese, so ended up in camp? It's understandable, under those circumstances, why he felt he didn't have to raise a finger to help...!poor guy.
Pamela
Pamela Masters –
De: "Tapol"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: Pictures
Date: dimanche 21 janvier 2007 9:22
Hello :-))
Three new name added on Greg’s portrait gallery ---
Thanks, Sylvia for your help!
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org
Best regards,
Leopold
----- Original Message -----
From:
"Sylvia Walker" <salollers@internode.on.net>
To:
<info@weihsien-paintings.org>
Sent:
Sunday, January 21, 2007 3:30 AM
Subject: Pictures
> Hi Greg
> 03b is me - Sylvia Tchoo
> 04a is my Mum Lillian Tchoo
> 04b is my Dad Roy Tchoo
>
> What a magnificent job you have done - it's all amazing Regards and thanks
>
> Sylvia Walker in
De: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: Names
Date: mardi 23 janvier 2007
9:23
Dear Brian,
Thanks very much for the info --- that I just added to the portraits at
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org All this is real team-work --- everybody is helping --- thanks again :-))
Best regards
Leopold
----- Original Message -----
From: <brianb65@telus.net>
To: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 3:35 AM
Subject: Names
Hello Leopold,
I don't know if you received my last email about the pictures in Greg Leck's book but I am certain that 8B is my mother, Elsie Butcher; 8D is my father, Will Butcher, and 8C is me, Brian.
Brian
De: "Tapol"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: Picture i.d.
Date: mardi 23 janvier 2007
9:28
Dear Albert,
Thanks for the info :-))
I corrected the name and hope to get more names soon from other visitors of the Weihsien-picture-galley-web-site.
---
Dear Greg,
Do you have any other photographs you would like to identify?
Best regards,
Leopold
----- Original Message -----
From: Albert de Zutter
To: info@weihsien-paintings.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:09 AM
Subject: Picture i.d.
Picture No. 16d is Peter Turner, not Michael Turner. The Turners lives in the same block as the De Zutters. The boys were my age and I knew them well. They were fraternal twins, and did not look much alike.
Albert de Zutter
De: <MTPrevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Name change
Date: mercredi 24 janvier 2007 23:45
Mr Sui Shude in Weifang:
The "Weifang No. 2 Middle
School," where the west part of the
Weihsien Camp was located, has changed back to its older name, "
De: "lucy lu"
<lucy9859@hotmail.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Article abiout Eric Liddell
in Shanghai Daily
Date: vendredi 2 février 2007 4:35
I’m Lucy
from foreign and overseas Chinese affairs office of Weifang city (the former WeiHsien),
In 2005, we held a series of commemorative activities to mark the 60th anniversary of the liberation of WeiHsien camp. I think you've joined us on that occasion. And I’m reading your book <forgiven but not forgotten>, to know more about the camp.
Thanks for your book and great efforts to doing something for the camp.
In 2007, we’ll make a documentary and film about the WeiHsien camp. So we’ll go abroad to interview the former internees or their friends and relatives, and collect materials for them. I think all of you here would like to provide us with something about the camp.
Anything about the camp will be warmly welcomed.
thanks!
keep in touch.
Lucy
Bob Bradbury wrote:
> Phyllis. Do you remember me? - Joyce
Cooke (Now Bradbury) from
----- Original Message -----
From: MTPrevite@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 4:08 AM
Subject: Have you memories of the HUMAN
SIDE of our guards?
What Weihsien memories do you have that show the human side of the Japanese during World War II?
Today, I watched Clint Eastwood's movie, LETTERS
FROM IWO JIMA, which recently won the Golden Globe award for
Best Movie of the Year here in the
I saw the human side in some of our guards in Weihsien. A few left me tender memories.
Remember my perspective. Separated
from my parents by warring armies, in Weihsien I was eleven and
twelve years old, a student in the
To the Japanese guards who missed their own families, our roll call district, with more than 100 children, was their pride and joy. When visiting Japanese officials monitored the camp, our roll call was the highlight of the show -- little foreign devils with prep school manners, standing with eyes front, spines stiff at attention, numbering off in Japanese: Ichi...nee...san... she... go...
I thought about it once when I was young, how curious it was that children watching enemy bayonet drills at dusk could know no fear. In Chefoo, we had watched those drills -- Japanese soldiers practicing how to kill in close range combat. What I did fear, though, were the Weihsien guards' Alsatian police dogs. I hated the dogs. You could play with the guards, but never with their dogs. The dogs were trained to kill.
Housed on the second floor of the hospital, we girls often played close to the Japanese guard tower which was positioned atop the wall near the hospital. We played in the underground air raid shelter not a stone's throw from the guard tower. With some of the Japanese guards we had a game. We would "accidentally" throw our ball over the wall then rush in desperation to the guard tower and its ever-present Japanese guard. He would lift us over the wall and let us frisk in freedom until we found the missing ball. This would have become a ritual -- but our teachers found out.
In 1945 when the "bamboo
radio" said that
It made me shudder. The Japanese guard who lifted us so gent;ly into the guard tower and dropped us into the field beyond the wall -- would he commit hari kiri?
Norman Cliff, who has captured so much of Weihsien internment history for us, writes in COURTYARD OF THE HAPPY WAY about the Japanese commandant Kosaka who oversaw our first internment camp in Chefoo: "This immaculately dressed man, with a kindly face, impeccable manners and a good command of English, stands out in my memory as unique and superior to any Japanese officials with whom we dealt up to that time and subsequently. He never raised his voice in anger and always approached us with courtesy which removed all fear and tension of those difficult days. He would inquire after our health and wellbeing, and showed a special concern for the older missionaries.
"We gathered that Kosaka had come
under the influence of Christian missionaries in
I'd liketo hear from you. What memories have you of the human side of our Japanese guards?
Mary Previte
De: "Joyce Cook"
<bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Article abiout Eric Liddell
in Shanghai Daily
Date: dimanche 4 février 2007
14:30
Dear Lucy. Thanks for your message. My book Forgiven But Not Forgotten is an authentic
account of WeiHsien and Tsingtao Camps as I experienced them during the War and
all names given in the book are real names of the persons involved. I will be happy to assist you with
information at any time and if you do come to
De: <grannydavies@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Have you memories of the
HUMAN SIDE of our guards?
Date: lundi 5 février 2007 1:07
I was in my late teens in camp. Only one
time did I see anything like sympathy from the guards. Had broken my leg, in a
cast, getting late so was trying to hurry, boyfriend on my left helping, guard
came up on my right, placed hand on my shoulder, I slid
around in front of Steve so he
was between us. The guard then pointed
to my cast. Coming up to us with rifle, affixed with bayonet did not give me a
"friendly" feeling. He made friendly noises then left. We
hurried home before curfew. The guard
seemed to be about our age. I stayed
away from them as much as I could. I
enjoyed your book. Also attended the Old China Hands reunion in
Phyllis(Evans) Davies
De: "Joyce Cook"
<bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Article abiout Eric Liddell
in Shanghai Daily
Date: lundi 5 février 2007 1:54
Dear Lucy, yes I did attend the
commemorative activities to mark the 60th anniversary of the
liberation. My three sons and granddaughter Danielle accompanied me and we had
a wonderful time. My book 'forgiven but Not Forgotten' gives an account of my
experiences and recollections of camp life both at Tsingtao Camp and WeiHsien
Camp. Names I mention are of the actual persons involved. Please let me know if
you intend coming to
De: "David Birch"
<gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Have you memories of the
HUMAN SIDE of our guards?
Date: lundi 5 février 2007 3:03
Thank you Mary for your recollections! I have several pleasant memories of the guards at both Temple Hill and Weihsien! Let me share a couple.
After Tipton and Hummel escaped from
Weihsien Camp, many of the Chefoo youngsters from the Boys and
But moving away from Block 23 held one major disadvantage for me personally. You see, a number of us youngsters, me included, had had small flower and vegetable gardens in the park out behind Block 23. We planted the gardens, weeded and watered them and were fully responsible for tending them ourselves. I recall that my younger brother, John, shared a garden with Robert Clow. They were in the Prep School and remained in Block 23 until war's end. Of course those of us in the Boys' School lost our gardens when we had to move. Block 61 and Block 23 were too far apart for us to walk all that way to attend to our horticulture.
Some months passed and I was determined to replace my garden. So I borrowed a Chinese hoe (a big, bulky, heavy tool) from someone. I had my eye on a suitable patch of soil next to the camp wall. But it needed to be cultivated. Well, the soil proved to be rock-hard clay - parched by the blistering Weihsien summer sun. I bravely wielded my heavy hoe (or mattock) and began bashing away with it at the unyielding baked clay! About twelve years old, I was a bit undersized from malnutrition, and I s'pose I wasn't making much headway, if any!
At this moment a Japanese guard, probably either waiting to go on sentry duty at the nearby tower, or maybe just off his shift, approached me. He gave me a very friendly smile and gestured to me indicating he would like me to pass him my mattock! I quickly realized that he wanted to help me, and of course I handed him the heavy tool. Well, that friendly guard went to work on what was an impossible task for me. He dug up the entire patch and did not quit till he had pulverized the chunky clay into workable soil.
I have never forgotten that very friendly gesture and I shall always be grateful for the memory of that good man and his kindness to twelve-year-old David Birch.
The Tennis Match -
I also recall a tennis match between Japanese guards and some of the older Chefoo boys and/or masters at Temple Hill. It all seemed very normal and was certainly a pleasant thing to watch!
Company's Coming to Dinner on Sunday
Also at Temple Hill, I clearly recall Mr
Kosaka and his deputy being our guests for roast chicken at dinner time in the
A Gift of Appreciation for Mr Martin
Goopy (Mr Martin) one of my most respected teachers of all time, told several of us boys one day that a Japanese guard whom he had recently befriended actually gave him a cigarette as a little gesture of appreciation. Goopy said, "Of course, I did not tell him that I don't smoke, but I will keep that cigarette as a reminder of this man's kindness."
There are more good memories of Japanese guards. I for one thank God for those fellows, many of whom I know must have been homesick for the little farms and fishing villages back home in Japan.
David
De: "lucy lu"
<lucy9859@hotmail.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Article abiout Eric Liddell
in Shanghai Daily
Date: lundi 5 février 2007 6:44
Dear Joyce,
Glad to get your email.
Hope more information about the camp from all of you.
Best regards.
Lucy
From: "Pander"
<pander.nl@skynet.be>
To: <weihsien@topica.com>
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: Article abiout Eric Liddell
in Shanghai Daily
> Dear Lucy,
> Have you already clicked on this link?
> http://www.weihsien-paintings.org
> --- it is all about Weihsien-concentration-camp and free access to all ---
> It is a great disorganized sum of information --- documents -- photos -- paintings -- sketches of all sorts. Extracts of books in English and French --- The résumé of our Topica-messages --- etc --- etc ---
> Hope you find your way in this labyrinth ----
> Let me know :-))
> Best regards,
> Leopold
>
De: "Joyce Cook"
<bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Article abiout Eric Liddell
in Shanghai Daily
Date: mardi 6 février 2007 6:24
Dear Lucy. Thanks for your message. My book Forgiven But Not Forgotten is an authentic
account of WeiHsien and Tsingtao Camps as I experienced them during the War and
all names given in the book are real names of the persons involved. I will be happy to assist you with
information at any time and if you do come to
De: "Joyce Cook" <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Article abiout Eric Liddell
in Shanghai Daily
Date: mardi 6 février 2007 6:30
Dear Lucy, yes I did attend the
commemorative activities to mark the 60th anniversary of the
liberation. My three sons and granddaughter Danielle accompanied me and we had
a wonderful time. My book 'forgiven but Not Forgotten' gives an account of my
experiences and recollections of camp life both at Tsingtao Camp and WeiHsien Camp.
Names I mention are of the actual persons involved. Please let me know if you
intend coming to
De: "Joyce Cook" <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>; "Georgeanna Knisely" <jknisely@paonline.com>
Date: jeudi 8
février 2007 8:14
Dear Georgie. So nice to hear from you. No I have not seen the article in the
Regarding that scoundrel Goez I have an
extract from a letter that describes him as a jew from
Regards Joyce.
De: "lucy
lu" <lucy9859@hotmail.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Article abiout Eric Liddell in Shanghai Daily
Date: jeudi 8
février 2007 11:34
Dear Tapol,
Thanks so much for your kind help. Glad to say that just now i visited the website you advised. It’s a wonderful world.
thanks again.
I’m wondering if you attended our activities in august 2005.
I’ve read Joyce's memoir, I remember, but not sure, maybe one of your relatives have helped supplying foods and drugs to the camp.
please tell me yes or no.
keep in touch .
best regards.
Lucy
De: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Article abiout Eric Liddell
in Shanghai Daily
Date: samedi 10 février 2007 12:59
Dear Lucy,
Hello, :-))
Unfortunately, we missed the 2005 summer meeting in Weifang but did manage to visit our old Weihsien compound in January 2006 ---
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/pander/Weifang2006/Slide_Show/01_KiteFabric/p_Kite_01.htm
I took quite a lot of photos and organized them the best I could on the web-site. We were greeted at the Quindao airport by Mr. Sui Shude and spent two exceptional days in Weifang.
I was not yet two years old in 1943 when we came to Weihsien and our parents never told us much about our captivity during WWII.
I was very interested in assembling the
pieces of the puzzle with the help of so many people from all over the World.
Father Hanquet, who is 91 years old now, told me a lot about the old
concentration camp. He lives in
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "peter bazire" <psbazire@yahoo.co.uk>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: The Salvation Army Band in
Weihsien
Date: mardi 13 février 2007 19:25
Hello Everybody,
I hope this article on the SA Band in Weihsien will bring back some memories. The two pictures are NOT attached, but I hope they can be sent later on.
Best wishes,
Peter
I was born in
My mother, Mrs Eileen Bazire, B.Mus., took charge of music in the school and she soon had Theo and me learning musical instruments: piano and violin respectively. I did not practise as much as I should, but a flair for music (perfect pitch, a good sense of harmony and an unusual memory) carried me along.
Later my mother assembled an orchestra for 10 to 17 year olds, which I joined when I was 10. We played simple, but enjoyable, pieces and gained experience in ensemble playing.
I now fast forward to Sept. 1943 when we in
Chefoo were taken to Weihsien to join the many who had already come from other
parts of
The SA Band was put together in the spring of 1943 by Brigadier Len Stranks, soon after many people had arrived in Weihsien.There was a strong nucleus of Salvation Army officers, plus two sons, and they were augmented by a few other players. Brig Stranks conducted, and he also played the E flat bass (tuba).
Early that autumn I was kindly invited to join the band. My classmate Doug Sadler had blown my trumpet at a Chefoo concert and Adjutant Fred Buist, the principal cornet player, who heard Doug, invited him to join too, and supplied him with a cornet. Norman Cliff from Chefoo also joined, and played the trombone.
Here I must mention the kindness of Brig
Stranks’ younger daughter Mrs Joyce Ditmanson/Cotterill for letting me quote
excerpts from Marcy Ditmanson’s diaries. Joyce herself also supplied me with
valuable information, both from
In
__________________________
I gradually learnt enough to play the 2nd cornet part for hymn tunes. It took some time before I could join fully in playing more difficult music such as marches.
Let me quote from Marcy Ditmanson’s diary: Sept 28 (1943) “…..I’ve joined the Salvation Army band. It gives me something to do, and gives me good practice on my cornet. We practise on Tuesday evenings in the sewing room, and play three times a week at meetings or the open air….”
I well remember the cold winters, and how we cornet/trumpet players could not wear gloves as the valves were too close together. Our hands and lips were chapped but it did not occur to us to stop playing.
Let me turn again to Marcy’s diary, an entry on Feb 27th 1944; “…..I had pancakes today after a two-hour clothes wash. I mixed in my this week’s egg with yesterday’s bread porridge, and added some flour, baking powder and salt begged off Gene (Huebener). It was quite a treat. Finished just in time for band-playing at 11.30. We played marches and hymn tunes for about an hour and a half, -outside the hospital, near the Italian camp, and in front of building 23. A lot of people turned out to hear us. Two new pieces are being written in camp for the band,- a march by Gene, and a selection by Major (sic) Stranks and Mrs Bazire….”
We now move on to July 4th, and a most fascinating entry in Marcy’s diary:
“We’ve celebrated the ‘Fourth’ with a full day’s program of athletic, religious and social events, with the whole community, regardless of nationality, either participating in or enjoying the goings-on. We had to have permission, of course, for the celeb(ration)……..We had a special church service at 11:45, well attended by both Am(ericans) and Brit(ish). The band played. Most of the selections we played, (Am)erican) were instrumented in camp: “Star Spangled Banner”, “O Beautiful for Spacious Skies” “God Bless America”,…..The (base)ball game in the evening was between the Am(ericans) and the (Brit)ish). It was a closely fought game…..The band played from its march books in between innings. At the close of the game we played “God Bless Am(erica)” and “My Country, ‘tis of Thee”. All the spectators, numbering 5-6 hundred, I suppose, stood at attention as we played the latter piece. It was a most impressive moment. To the Br(itish), of course, we were playing their nat’l anthem; to the Americans one of the best- loved patriotic hymns……”
July 5th(1944): “There have been
some repercussions from yesterday’s celebrations. The Jap(anese) objected to
our playing ‘national anthems’. (Answer to the Japanese) “‘
It has occurred to me : what did we use for valve oil then? Perhaps some members of the band had valve oil, but I think I spat on my valves for lubrication!
There is an entry in Sept 30th (1944) in Marcy’s diary which is interesting in itself, and which has a bearing on band practice:
“…..The scouting movement here has gotten into trouble thrice during the past week or two.
1 A cpl(couple) of boys were caught pacing out a certain area within the camp and drawing a map based on their findings. An order promptly came forbidding the sketching or painting of walls, bldgs or other structures along the main walls of the camp.
2 Chefoo boys ran afoul of the authorities a few days later because they had a campfire. The J(apanese) wanted to know where the logs came from. They could only see it as wasting precious fuel, and they threatened reprisals. So no more campfires.
3 Last night the rangers had their regular meeting in the Kindergarten room. Sergeant Pu Hsing Te (Marcy wrote the Chinese characters) somehow took offence to this and stopped the gathering, taking the leader, Miss Phare, down to the guardhouse. The upshot of it all was that the compound in which the campfires and meetings were held had been declared “out-of-bounds” after dark. In that compound are also the book-binding room, barber shop, shoe-shop, post office, electric power house and sewing room. Hereafter our band practices, which were held Monday nights in the sewing room, will be held elsewhere, probably in the church….The band too met with disfavor Thursday night. It was playing just outside the church per custom to draw people to the evang. meeting inside. Serj. Pu Hsing Te came along, took Brig. Stranks down to the guard-house and reprimanded him for playing outside the church without permission. The band had perm. to play inside, but not outside! Serj. Pu Hsing Te is not very popular.”
“Oct 1. Sunday…..The band played outside the church again tonight, but were stopped by the J. We were told hereafter not to play after dark. It is all right to play inside tomorrow.”
Here is an interesting and amusing story kindly told me by the Rev Joe Cotterill, who will be 90 in March 2007.
“ Gene Huebener, who played the tenor horn in the band, had an interest in helping boys in Weihsien.One of his activities was to get boys to construct recorders in bamboo. So up to a dozen boys would gather in Gene’s dormitory, much to the annoyance of the other men who slept there, and be shown how to make recorders from sticks of bamboo, and then how to play them. It was the latter which annoyed his fellow dormitory members! But the boys enjoyed it and profited from it.
“Unfortunately one of the boys later developed appendicitis, and a slither of bamboo was found in his appendix!”
We come to February 1945. It was a bitterly cold winter. On Feb 18th the band was playing outside the hospital where Eric Liddell, the Olympic runner, was lying seriously ill. He sent a request to the band to play one of his favourite hymns, “Be Still My Soul”, to the tune “Finlandia”. At the time we did not know that Eric would not have much longer to live. The memory of playing that day will live with me for ever. It was such a privilege, playing for our great hero, Eric.
We move on to the summer of 1945 and to that most glorious , most memorable of days: Aug 17th, when we were liberated by the American paratroopers. Again let Marcy speak:
“Aug 17,1945. Brigadier Stranks got the band together and we lined up on an
elevation overlooking the north wall (by the gate) and began playing national
airs and marches. The band struck up “God Bless
I well remember that occasion. I had hoped to go out through the gate to enjoy the freedom of being in the surrounding countryside, but someone (Doug?) had brought my trumpet along, so instead I enjoyed playing in the band. Later I joined in the activities outside the camp.
I should add that earlier that summer we began practising the national anthems of all the countries represented in the camp, but NOT the top line, so as not to arouse the suspicion of our guards. These tunes were arranged as a medley by a band member, and on Aug 17th, we of course played it with all the melodies.
Again, may I remind readers that excerpts from Marcy Ditmanson’s diaries have been used by permission from Mrs Joyce Ditmanson/Cotterill
After coming to
In 2000 my three children had my Weihsien trumpet restored for my 70th birthday. Later I joined the Bath Spa Training Band. I occasionally play 3rd cornet in the main Bath Spa Band in their lighter concerts. The violin is still my main instrument. I have played in the Bath Symphony Orchestra (amateur) for the last 43 years..
I hope to write a short article on the Weihsien orchestra and on recitals later on.
Attached: (a) Photos of the SA Band in Weihsien
UPPER: (All standing) from left to right
Donald Littler, Adjutant Fred Buist, Marcy Ditmanson, James Dempster, Peter Bazire, Doug Sadler, Josh Clarke, Major Henry Collishaw, Gene Huebener, Steve Shaw, Norman Cliff, Major Ollie Wellbourn, Ian Sowton, Major Charles Sowton, Major Len Evenden, Brigadier Len Stranks.
LOWER: (1) Standing:
Steve Shaw, Donald Littler, Adj, Fred Buist, Doug Sadler, Josh Clarke, Peter Bazire, Marcy Ditmanson, James Dempster, Major Len Evenden.
(2) Crouching:
Major Ollie Wellbourn, Norman Cliff, Gene Huebener, Brig Len Stranks, Major Henry Collishaw, Ian Sowton, Major Charles Sowton.
(b) Peter Bazire, (Summer 2006) in Bath Spa Band uniform.
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: new chapter
Date: vendredi 16
février 2007 0:32
Hello,
New chapter on the paintings' web-site --- "From Peter Bazire"
--- text and photos ---
click on:
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org --- and then on "Peter Bazire" in the left column and then click on whatever inspires you ---
---
Best regards,
Leopold
De: <grannydavies@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: The Salvation Army Band in
Weihsien
Date: vendredi 16 février 2007 3:47
did notget message or pictures, would love to have them Phyllis EvansDavies
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: The Salvation Army Band in
Weihsien
Date: vendredi 16 février 2007 10:06
Hello,
Click on this link: http://www.weihsien-paintings.org
then, click on "Peter Bazire" at the bottom left of your screen ---
click on the pictures --- to see them "bigger" ---
--- and click on the symbol representing a book --- and you will have the complete text ---
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "Stan Thompson" <thompson@ginniff.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Cc: "peter
bazire" <psbazire@yahoo.co.uk>
Objet: The Weihsien Salvation Army Band
Date: vendredi 16 février 2007 20:56
Peter,
Thanks for the Weihsien memories, and the stories about the Weihsien Salvation Army band. Finlandia was seared into my memory as a child (perhaps especially at Eric Liddell's funeral) and the tune has stirred warm memories for me ever since.
When I consider that, in retrospect, my most vivid memory about the Salvation Army band is the characteristic way that Mr Buist sucked air in at the left side of his mouth, I realize what a complete musical moron I was then - and still am today ! This may have been genetic - (or possibly mimetic, a la Dawkins). I remember no music at home in my childhood - only at church, and our children remember only a handful of 76 rpm records in the house - literally, less than 10, and even now, our shelves have few CDs, but thousands of books ! Our children have worked at repairing this defect in their up-bringing - with varying success !
All the best,
Stan Thompson
De: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: portraits - Greg Leck's book
Date: samedi 17 février 2007 16:18
Dear Greg,
--- a new add to the gallery of portraits in your chapter ---
click on this link:
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/GregLeck/pages/p_portraits01.htm
Best regards,
Leopold
----- Original Message -----
From: bobbie backhouse
To: info@weihsien-paintings.org
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 7:54 AM
15a is Sheila Livingston McNeil
De:
<grannydavies@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: The Salvation Army Band in
Weihsien
Date: dimanche 18 février 2007 4:02
Thanks for the pictures of the Salvation Army band. Many memories, Phyllis
De: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: portraits
Date: dimanche 18 février 2007
9:22
Dear Greg,
Just got this message from Albert on the Weihsien-paintings-web-site ---
I'm sending it on Topica --- hope that Joyce will be able to help :-))
click on:
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/GregLeck/pages/p_portraits01.htm
Best regards,
Leopold
----- Original Message -----
From: Albert de Zutter
To: info@weihsien-paintings.org
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 3:53 AM
Subject: portraits
Leopold,
I believe that portrait No. 22b is Yvonne,
originally from
Albert de Zutter
----- Original Message -----
From: Stan Thompson
Cc: peter bazire
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 5:29 AM
Subject: note to Peter Bazire
PETER BAZIRE
Peter,
Good to hear
from you and get re-acquainted after 62 years ! Delores and I have been
married for 54 years and we have spent 47 of them in Iowa City, and the last 40
of them living on a farm just 10 miles out of town – raising sheep for 36 of
those years !. I came to
All the best,
Stan Thompson
PS. Jack Graham came to visit me and left me a clearer copy of that
familiar picture of Chefoo Weihsieners getting off the train at
--^^---------------------------------------------------------------
De: "Joyce Cook"
<bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: portraits
Date: lundi 19 février 2007
18:28
Yes I thought it might be Ivonne Ozorio now
Rozicki and when I see her I will show her that photo. Joyce.
De: "Tapol"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: portraits
Date: mardi 20 février 2007
14:57
Thank you very much --- I'll add that on the web-site --- and I also got 2 new identifications in my mail-box this morning :-))
Best regards,
Leopold
----- Original Message -----
From: bobbie backhouse
To: info@weihsien-paintings.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:52 AM
16a is Dennis Carter
11a is C.T. "Tommy Hall
De: <MTPrevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Fw: portraits
- Greg Leck's book
Date: mardi 20 février 2007
20:34
Leopold,
You're a genius! You keep spreading joy around the globe.
Mary Previte
De: <smallchief@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Greetings from New Member
Date: mercredi 21 février 2007 16:12
Hello, all
I just joined the list and look forward to
reading your posts. As background, I was
not an internee in World War II, but I got interested in the subject from
reading Langdon Gilkey's book and "The Call" by John Hersey and
reading and seeing "King Rat" and that Spielberg movie about an
internee camp near
I'll be ordering the more recent books written on internees and I would certainly welcome any recommendations from you -- especially oral histories of detainees.
My background is international affairs and I recently retired after spending some 39 years wandering around the world on behalf of the government and humanitarian organizations.
Thanks and I look forward to talking to all of you.
Smallchief
De: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Greetings from New Member
Date: jeudi 22 février 2007 13:26
Hello from
Dear Smallchief,
You can click on this link:
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/books/Topica/BibliographyTopica.htm
--- When we were liberated by the Americans in August 1945, I was 4 years old --- and don't remember much about our captivity during WWII.
A few years ago, I discovered "The Internet" and wanted to know more about Weihsien and finally made a blog.
It's a labyrinth with a lot of interesting data --- extracts of books, books in English and French, documents, paintings, sketches --- etc. Hope you find your way and have a good time ---
Best regards,
Leopold
De: <smallchief@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Greetings from New Member
Date: jeudi 22 février 2007 18:39
Hi, Leopold
I found your weihsien-paintings website a few days ago and have been reading some of the material on the site. I really appreciate what you've done -- and I'll read some of the books on the subject. Four or five years ago I looked on the web for information about Weihsien internees and found very little. It's good to see there's a lot more information available now.
A question: You're familiar with Gilkey's book about Weihsien. He changed all the names in the book -- partially because his comments about many people were not complimentary. Have any of the former internees gone through the book and tried to identify the people he mentions?
Thanks for everything.
Smallchief (Larry Thompson)
De: "David Birch"
<gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Greetings from New Member
Date: vendredi 23 février 2007
10:36
Hi Larry!
Welcome aboard Weihsien@topica!
It is probably fifteen years since I read
Langdon Gilkey's book, 'Shantung Compound' so I do not remember it in detail
however I do recall some things in it. As you said, he tried to hide the
identities of individuals in the camp by changing their names. However, I
definitely recall one name he either forgot to change or simply did not think
it mattered. That was the name of a highly-placed Japanese official named
Watanabi. I clearly remember, after nearly 62 years, Mr Watanabi waving goodbye
to us from a flat car on a railway siding as our train, loaded with
just-released internees, pulled out of the railway station at Weihsien in
September 1945 bound for
On another note, I believe Gilkey was about 24 yrs old at the end of the war. He was one of the cooks in Kitchen One at Weihsien. I don't recall any of the dishes he created but I do remember that I was always happy when he was on duty. That must mean that he was more imaginative than some of our other more 'prosaic' cooks. In their defense I'll say that none of the cooks had a great deal to work with. But there was some real slop produced in that kitchen, more fit for swine than human beings. Gilkey somehow managed to do a better job then some. His associate chef was a 'Miss Hinckley.'
Sincerely
David
De: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: Greetings from New Member
Date: vendredi 23 février 2007 12:14
Hello,
Father Hanquet worked in kitchen No.1 with Langdon Gilkey ---
Try this link --- it's in the "books" chapter:
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/books/Gilkey/txt_Suggested_Key.htm
best regards,
Leopold
-----
Original Message -----
From: Donald
Menzi
Sent:
Friday, February 23, 2007 9:38 PM
Subject: Re:
Fw: Greetings from New Member
Welcome, Larry,
As part of Weifang's celebration of the 60th anniversary of Weihsien's liberation, I prepared a "slide show" that includes a virtual "walking tour" or the camp, based on the paintings and drawings of over a dozen artists who were interned there. It also includes a segment on the prisoner-exchange voyage of the Gripsholm, and the 2005 celebration.
If you will send me your mailing address, I
would be glad to send you a copy of the CD.
The same goes for anyone else who would like a copy. The updated version includes
appropriate musical accompaniments.
Donald Menzi
De: "Alison Holmes"
<aholmes@prescott.edu>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Fw: Greetings from New
Member
Date: vendredi 23 février 2007 21:52
I'd love one, Donald, and would gladly
reimburse you. My address is
-----
Original Message -----
From: Donald
Menzi
Sent:
Friday, February 23, 2007 10:31 PM
Subject: RE:
Fw: Greetings from New Member
Alison,
There is no charge. As with Leopold and the other "Weihsieners" the pleasure from being able to share this material with others who appreciate - not to mention the enjoyment of creating new ways to present it - it is more than enough compensation.
Donald
De: "Dwight W. Whipple"
<thewhipples@comcast.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Fw: Greetings from New
Member
Date: samedi 24 février 2007 1:37
Donald~
We would love to have a CD and would be glad to pay for it. You can find us at:
Dwight & Judy Whipple
4728A
360.456.4300
thewhipples@comcast.net
De: "Pamela Maters"
<pamela@hendersonhouse.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Langdon Gilkey's AKA's
Date: samedi 24 février 2007 1:41
For anyone who's interested, I pulled up Landon Gilkey's page on weihsienpictures. org and glancing over his AKA List (also known as) I came up with some new identities, and a couple of changes (*).
Page 22 -- W.T. Roxby-Jones =
Pierre Travers-Smith, RA. (
Page 23 -- Jacob Strauss =
Teddy Nathan, General Manager and CEO of the Kailan Mining
Administration (not company), better known as the KMA. The name Kailan was derived from the
Kaiping and Lanchow mines when they joined forces and
became the huge Chinese/British coal mining consortium, one of
Page 25 -- Johns = Wilfred Pryor, Asst. General Manager, KMA
Page 25 -- Jameson =
"Rich"
Page 31 -- Chesterton = Bill Chilton, KMA Port Administrator, Chinwangtao, promoted to a top executive position in the Kailan when he out-bluffed the Japanese Imperial Army in North China. (See page 31, The Mushroom Years for details, it's worth a read)
An interesting side-bar: Bill Chilton was actually a Texan who ran away to sea and joined the Royal Navy, retiring with the rank of commander. He was not short, as Gilkey has him, but tall and lean, with the sad face of a bloodhound. And yes, he spoke very, very slowly and distinctly.
page 57* -- Doctor Kailon (sp?) = Grice. That should read "Kailan Chief-of-Staff" = Dr. Grice
Page 121* Ian Campbell = Ted McLaren
Have a great day -- Pamela
Pamela
Masters - Author/Publisher
Titles:
The Mushroom Years, Sass & Serendipity
Phone:
530-647-2000
Fax:
530-647-2002
pamela@hendersonhouse.com
http://www.hendersonhouse.com
De: "Alison Holmes"
<aholmes@prescott.edu>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Fw: Greetings from New
Member
Date: samedi 24 février 2007 2:05
Thank you so much! And may your rewards come long before heaven!
Alison
De: "Alison Holmes"
<aholmes@prescott.edu>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Langdon Gilkey's AKA's
Date: samedi 24 février 2007 2:05
You are just a marvel, Pamela! What a fund of information and delight you
are. Never over the top, just
fascinating and factual and putting the emphasis on the material...I just
wanted you to know how much I appreciate your tone. Alison
Martin Holmes
De: "R. E.
Stannard Jr." <restannardjr@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Fw: Greetings from New
Member
Date: samedi 24 février 2007 2:34
Donald -- I'm a lurker on this listserv --
actually an interloper from the Chaipei camp in
So if your offer extends this far, it would
be very welcome. Let me know of any disk or postage costs you'd like in advance
or after. I stumbled onto this listserv, and hope some traffic will begin on
the listserv Greg Leck just started for Chapei & all the
One of my long-term ambitions, which I poke into every few years, is to persuade the family of the late Carl Mydans (the LIFE photographer who was an internee and on the Gripsholm, and managed to wangle a camera at the Goa exchange point) to search out the negatives of that Gripsholm voyage and make the entire set available on line or CD. I've met son Seth Mydans, and he said any negatives would be among his effects, but it might be quite a long time before anyone got into that stuff.
Regards,
Ted Stannard (R.E.Stannard Jr.)
De: "Donald Menzi" <dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Fw: Greetings from New
Member
Date: samedi 24 février 2007 5:49
Ted,
I'll be happy to send it to you, but no charge, please.
I have included some of the photos from
Life magazine in the "Gripsholm" portion. You probably already have the Life edition
that covered the stopover in
Donald
De: "R. E.
Stannard Jr." <restannardjr@yahoo.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Fw: Greetings from New
Member
Date: samedi 24 février 2007 7:16
Much Thanks! Yes, I have that LIFE -- saw it listed second hand a few months ago and couldn't resist sending for it. (Cost like a new book!) But I'm confident Carl Mydans shot many rolls of 35mm film, so there could be a lot of photos people would like to see and identify for historical purposes.
Ted
De: "Ron
Bridge" <rwbridge@freeuk.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Fw: Greetings from New
Member
Date: samedi 24 février 2007 11:22
Donald,
When you scan them and send could you add my address rwbridge@freeuk.com
Many thanks
onetime Blk42 rm 6 and Blk13Rm 12 after the internee exchange
De:
"Eddie Cooke" <shedco@optusnet.com.au>
À:
"Weihsien@Topica.Com" <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Mailing List
Date: samedi
24 février 2007 13:19
I have not received mail from Weihsien@topica for some time. Can anyone explain why? I have now re-subscribed and looking forward to latest news.
Eddie Cooke
De: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Langdon Gilkey's AKA's
Date: samedi 24 février 2007 14:24
Dear Pamela,
Thanks very much for the adds and corrections ---
Could you check? I also added a link to Pierre Travers-Smith's painting ---
Best regards,
Leopold
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org
go to "books" and click on "Weihsien"
De: "Alexander
Strangman" <dzijen@bigpond.net.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Langdon Gilkey's AKA's
Date: samedi 24 février 2007 19:32
Thanks Pamela, this is the most interesting e-mail to hit my screen in a long time!
Take care,
Zandy
De: "Pamela Maters"
<pamela@hendersonhouse.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Langdon Gilkey's AKA's
Date: samedi 24 février 2007 20:15
Leopold, there's no doubt about it...you're very special!
Thank you so much for all your entries, especially listing The Mushroom Years under Weihsien's books, and then putting in such neat links
.
I sure admire people who can waltz around the Internet and get it to come alive with hardly any effort.
And thank you also for adding the additional names to the Gilkey/Hubbard AKA List. I wonder if Langdon would have been so rough on "Chesterton" if he'd known he was actually a Texan!?!
Have a good one -- Pamela
Pamela
Masters - Author/Publisher
Titles:
The Mushroom Years, Sass & Serendipity
Phone:
530-647-2000
Fax:
530-647-2002
pamela@hendersonhouse.com
De: "Tracy Strong"
<tstrong@weber.ucsd.edu>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re Gripsholm trip
Date: samedi 24 février 2007 22:08
Dear Donald --
Might I ask if you might also send me a copy of this scan --if this was the second Gripsholm trip I was a babe in arms (well, in a basket). I doubt the picture will prompt any memories (1) but it would be nice to see it.
Many thanks.
Tracy B. Strong
De: "Tracy Strong"
<tstrong@weber.ucsd.edu>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Langdon Gilkey's AKA's
Date: samedi 24 février 2007 22:09
I cannot seem to pull up weihsienpictures.org (as below) - what mistake am I
making?
Tracy B. Strong
De: "Pamela Maters" <pamela@hendersonhouse.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Langdon
Gilkey's AKA's
Date: dimanche 25 février 2007
2:16
Sorry, you didn't make a mistake, I did.
That should read www.weihsien-paintings.org
Note: it also has a dash in it. Once
again,
Pamela Masters –
De: "Pamela Maters"
<pamela@hendersonhouse.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: My AKA???
Date: dimanche 25 février 2007 2:38
I am still trying to figure how my last posting had me listed as Pamela "Maters." Please be advised that is not one of my AKAs. The only other name I ever answered to was Bobby Simmons, and that was over sixty years ago!
Regarding Greg's photos: I've just checked
them over, and I believe 10e is Sharon Talati, a gifted pianist who put on
several terrific concerts for us in camp. 10f could be her mother, Mrs. Talati.
She and her husband owned Talati House Hotel in
De: "David Birch"
<gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Langdon
Gilkey's AKA's
Date: dimanche 25 février 2007
3:05
Thank you, Pamela! You've made a very valuable contribution!
David
De: "David Birch"
<gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: My AKA???
Date: dimanche 25 février 2007 3:06
Pamela!
You are really enriching our memories! I well recall Miss Talati practising the piano! She was one of the few people in camp who were privileged to play the few pianos there. She used to spend hours on end doing her scales, chords and arpeggios - I think on the piano at the camp church!
I was so conscious of her privilege because
at the age of nearly eleven, when the Chefoo folk (including me) were interned
at Temple Hill, I lost the privilege of having piano lessons and doing piano
practise - there just weren't enough pianos after we left our school compound.
So I ended up teaching myself how to play, in
David
De: "R. E. Stannard Jr."
<restannardjr@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: My AKA???
Date: dimanche 25 février 2007
3:20
> Pamela Maters <pamela@hendersonhouse.com> wrote: I am still trying to
> figure how my last posting had me listed as Pamela "Maters."
Pamela, it appears that somewhere in setting up your system you dropped the first "s" in Masters and so all your emails are faithfully carrying that version in front of your email address. Somewhere in your mail program....
Cyberspace does the darndest things!
Ted Stannard
De: "Pamela Maters"
<pamela@hendersonhouse.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: My AKA???
Date: lundi 26 février 2007
3:44
Hey, that's wild! I went back to my Weihsien file just to check, and ALL my postings show my correct name ahead of my e-mail address!?!
Pamela Masters
De: "Pamela Maters"
<pamela@hendersonhouse.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: My AKA???
Date: lundi 26 février 2007
5:03
And if I recall correctly, David, that lovely old piano in the Assembly Hall was a Steinway. What a lovely plug for such a venerable name in pianos!
Pamela
De: "Pamela Maters"
<pamela@hendersonhouse.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: My AKA???
Date: lundi 26 février 2007
7:53
Ah, the mystery of my misspelled name is solved! Obviously, when I signed up for Weihsien Topica, I must've entered it wrong. I just got my last posting back, on this very subject, and there is was. I hate like heck going back into Weihsien Topica, as I've been dropped me so many times, and had to re-sign up so many times, I shudder to think what would happen if I did it again...
Pamela Masters
Pamela Masters -
De: "Tapol"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: My AKA???
Date: lundi 26 février 2007
14:39
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/pander/Weifang2006/Slide_Show/02_Weihsien/p_01.htm
click on the link and scroll down to picture a13 and a14 ---
--- is this the piano?
When I visited Weihsien last year in January I was shown this piano in one of the Japs' houses now a museum.
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "Pamela Maters"
<pamela@hendersonhouse.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: My AKA???
Date: lundi 26 février 2007 19:44
Hello, Leopold --
If memory serves me, the piano in the Assembly Hall was a Steinway concert grand, not an upright, like the one you photographed. I do believe that was the one that a Mr. Grimes, also a musician and piano player, used to play. It was housed in one of the administration buildings. I have to admit, memory is hazy on this -- Pamela
De: "Gay Talbot Stratford"
<stillbrk@eagle.ca>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: My AKA???
Date: lundi 26 février 2007 21:52
Good morning Leopold,
You are a wonderful lynch pin for us all. Thank you so much.
I remember that at aged twelve , I was honoured to be able to play the piano at a concert It was a thrill; however, I do not know how great the performance was, since I was only able to practice on it twice beforehand.
Greetings to you both,
Gay Talbot
De: "Sonya
Grypma" <sonya.grypma@uleth.ca>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Interned nurses
Date: lundi 26 février
2007 22:20
Hi everyone,
My name is Sonya Grypma & I am a nurse
historian with a special interest in missionary nursing in
I hope you don't mind me joining your web group here - I've found it so helpful to better understand what Weihsien was all about. Thanks, too, to all of you who have worked on the Weihsien website - I've found it very interesting!
I visited Weifang last October with three Canadian "missionary kids" (now in their 70s and 80s) whose family or friends were interned there (Eric Liddell’s wife Florence MacKenzie was a Canadian nurse, and also a “missionary kid” with the United Church North China Mission in Henan, and later Tianjin, where she met Eric).
From what I can gather, there were up to
five Canadian nurses interned in
In addition, it is possible that
Do any of you know about any of these women? In particular, Susie Kelsy, RN or Mrs. Mary Stanley (Block 15, I think)?
As you know, the hospital is still standing at Weifang. I am also very interested in knowing more about how the hospital was organized. Susie Kelsey was repatriated on the Gripsholm, and I remember her writing that she was a bit concerned about what would happen to health care after she left since a number of doctors and nurses were leaving at the same time.
Very sincerely,
Sonya
De: "John Stanley"
<stanley@kutztown.edu>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Interned
nurses
Date: lundi 26 février 2007
22:40
Weihsien list members:
I have recently signed up for the listserve and have found it very interesting to hear about the experiences and activities of those in the Camp.
Although I was not in the camp (I am too young), my father, grandfather and grandmother were there from 1943-1945. For my dissertation I looked at the history of the camp as the American Presbyterian mission station between 1883 and 1920.
I hope to hear more about the recorded experiences of the list members.
John Stanley
(grandson of "John" and Mary Stanley and son of Charles)
De: "David Birch"
<gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: My AKA???
Date: mardi 27 février 2007 4:43
I would have to agree with Pamela! The piano in the Assembly Hall/Church was a grand, a really big piano! I know there were several other pianos in the camp. I believe Block 22 had one.
David
De: "Alexander Strangman"
<dzijen@bigpond.net.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Interned
nurses
Date: mardi 27 février 2007
9:17
Hi Sonya,
I couldn't help noticing your interesting e-mail and admiring your dedication to the task ahead.
You are quite right,
The Weishien Camp listing does show a Mrs. M.B. Stanley (Canadian) living in Block 15.
This is how the listing appears:
15/12 Stanley, C.J. American 30 M
Student
" Stanley, Mrs. M.B. (Canadian) " 30 F
Housewife
"
M Child
Even though I was 14 at the time, and situated in Block 22 ( which was located along side Block 15, end to end) andhad friends living midway along that block, I can't recall that particular family, though.
With a bit of luck though, someone else who lived in that block may remember the lady. Alison maybe?
Sorry I couldn't find Susie Kelsey listed as such, for you.
Regards,
A. (Zandy) Strangman
De: "Alexander Strangman"
<dzijen@bigpond.net.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: My AKA???
Date: mardi 27 février 2007
9:44
Sorry David,
I don't think a piano of any shape or form could have been squeezed into any of those rooms in OUR Block 22.
Earlier in our stay, I had the lone of a piano accordion for 2 weeks BUT I didn't think it had been that ‘noticeable’!
I shouldn't have got carried away with 'Roll Out the Barrel', like I did! That must've given the game away !
Cheers, Zandy
De: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Interned
nurses
Date: mardi 27 février 2007
11:50
Hello,
I'm Zandy's neighbour from block-22
Try this link:
( maybe you have already found it in
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org )
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/RonBridge/habitants/weihsien02.xls
It's a "exell" file of about 400KB --- too big to send via "Topica". It's a complete listing of all the ex-internees at Weihsien during our captivity.
Hope this helps
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "Donald Menzi"
<dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Interned nurses
Date: mardi 27 février 2007 17:11
Zandy,
The
They are the ones referred to in John's February 26 email.
Donald
De: "Sonya Grypma"
<sonya.grypma@uleth.ca>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Interned
nurses
Date: mardi 27 février 2007
18:50
WOW - Thanks to all of you who have written here & who have also contacted me directly in the past 24 hours (!!). I cannot tell you all how exciting it is for me to finally get in touch with people who remember Mary and her family. I have been searching dead ends for about 5 years. Thank you all for your suggestions & leads - I will follow up on each of them.
John, it is such a pleasure to have contact with you. I had lost hope of meeting up with anyone related to the Boyd/Stanley family. I do have a fairly good understanding of the mission that Mary grew up in, but not of her life after she married. You might be interested to know that I have a couple of photos of Mary that will be included in my book - one group photo that includes Mary, her sister Dorothy, and the young Florence MacKenzie, as well as the wedding photo of Mary and Charles ("John", right?). She was gorgeous all right!
Mary was one of 7 "missionary
kids" from the United Church North China Mission (Honan/
I would love to read your dissertation, John: Is there a way I can get a hold of it? Because of the way the missions worked, it is difficult to follow the tracks of the nurses once they married. For that reason, I lost "track" of your grandmother after she married your grandfather. I would love to know more about her life after her marriage, and especially between 1941 and ~1946/47.
For John and anyone who might have any information/ documents about Mary that you are willing to share, feel free to contact me directly at sonya.grypma@uleth.ca (for example, Donald, I would be very interested to read the letters written by your grandfather).
With my sincerest thanks,
Sonya
Sonya Grypma, RN, PhD
De: "Donald Menzi"
<dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Fw: Greetings from New
Member
Date: mardi 27 février 2007
18:52
Sure, Ron,
Would anyone else like a copy of the Life
magazine pictures and story about the Gripsholm transfer in
Don
De: "Brian Butcher"
<bdbutcher@telus.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Greetings from New Member
Date: mardi 27 février 2007 20:17
Hello Don,
I would like a copy please. Our family did
not leave on the Gripsholm. Instead we
were evacuated to
Brian Butcher
bdbutcher@telus.net
De: "David Birch"
<gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Greetings from New Member
Date: mardi 27 février 2007 21:25
Hey Brian!
I remember you as a little boy in Weihsien camp. If you were six at the end of the war, you are about seven years younger than I. I think you parents were missionaries with the Salvation Army at the time, were they not? I recall your dad giving his testimony at a service in the camp (in Block 24 I think). It was a gripping story that even today, over 60 years later, I will never forget. He was a wonderful man - you have a rich heritage!
I'll continue in a personal email rather
than on Topica. But first I'll say that I am Canadian and live in
David
De: "Dwight W. Whipple"
<thewhipples@comcast.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Fw: Greetings from New
Member
Date: mercredi 28 février 2007 0:36
Don,
Would love to have the pictures and articles.
~Dwight W. Whipple
4728A
360.456.4300
thewhipples@comcast.net
De: "georgeanna knisely"
<jknisely@paonline.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Fw: Greetings from New
Member
Date: mercredi 28 février 2007 5:54
Yes, please. I was not on it, but knew people who were. Thanks so much for this catchup. Georgie Reinbrect Knisely
De: "R. E. Stannard Jr."
<restannardjr@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Fw: Greetings from New
Member
Date: mercredi 28 février 2007 7:59
Don, actually, I'd be happy to get both, even though I already have the LIFEmagazine, as it would be nice to have them in digital form to share with siblings.
I may actually be in that NYTimes story, though not by name. Half a century ago, as a grad student working in the Cornel U library, recalling that I had been interviewed ships-side on Gripsholm arrival a dozen years earlier, by some reporter, I decided to look up the microfilm for that day just in case it had gotten in.
It turned out I DID find the NYT story, and
deep on an inside page found an interview with an unnamed boy about his
experiences. I recognized things I had told him about biking in
If it is the same story in its entirety, it would be a particularly welcome keepsake!
Thanks, Ted Stannard ChapeiCamp/Gripsholm 1943Mar-Dec
De: "R. E. Stannard
Jr." <restannardjr@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: LIFE & NYTimes Gripsholm
stories on CD
Date: mercredi 28 février 2007 8:40
Don -- I believe I forgot to provide a postal address. See the signature box below. Ted Stannard
______________________________________________________________________
R.E.Stannard Jr. (Ted) & Femmy T. Stannard
e-mail : restannardjr@yahoo.com femmystannard@yahoo.com
backup : stannard@cc.wwu.edu phone: (360) 392-0712
postal :
Western Washington U. prof.emeritus;
De: "Tapol"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: Fw: Greetings from New
Member
Date: mercredi 28 février 2007 8:57
> Yes :-)) I'd like to have a copy --- thanks in advance ---
> Best regards,
> Leopold
>
De: "
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Interned nurses
Date: mercredi 28 février 2007 14:27
I am in direct contact with Sonya as she has queries re people in other camps.
Ron
PS the
De: "Donald Menzi"
<dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À: "weihsien"
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: More on the Gripsholm
Date: mercredi 28 février 2007 18:12
Those of you with an interest in the Gripsholm may also want to visit the web site I set up to distribute materials to Wilder and Stanley family members.
Once on the site, go to "Directory", then to "4.b Repatriation Journey." where you will find Gertrude Wilder's paintings of ports visited by the Gripsholm on the way back. The links to documents listed on that page aren't working, but you can download descriptions of the trip by going to "4.c Documents to Download" and scrolling down to "1943....." Unfortunately, you may find that when these were copied from Word Perfect, the punctuation formats didn't translate well, so you'll have to interpret some characters as ", ' :, etc.
I'd be interested in your feedback on these pictures and documents.
Donald
De: "Donald Menzi"
<dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Fw: Fw: Greetings from New
Member
Date: mercredi 28 février 2007 19:11
TO: All those I promised to send the Life Magazine story
For some inexplicable reason, I am temporarily unable to locate the "safe place" where I stored my copy of Life with the Gripsholm photos. I've ordered another copy, which should be here in a few days, so there will be a slight delay.
By the way, would one of you who has a copy
please check the date for me to make sure that I'm getting the correct
one? The photos were from their time in
Goa, which was October 1943, but the issue that lists a photo-essay about the
Gripsholm is December 22, after they had already landed in
In the mean time, I am attaching my
grandmother's humorous description of conditions on board the Teia Maru, which
took them from
Donald
ON THE GOOD SHIP TEIA MARU –
A SATIRE
By Gertrude S. Wilder
ON THE GOOD SHIP TEIA MARU: A SATIRE
Have you only $2 million to spend on your vacation trip? You can spend it all on the beautiful M.S. Teia Maru (formerly the Aramis)!
Let us help you plan your holiday. Why spend your days on an ordinary ship when
you can spend four weeks on the Teia?
Sail up the glorious Whangpu to
Why spend tedious hours sightseeing when you can sit in sulky boredom on such a floating palace, where the use of a deck chair costs but $100 and your friends are all around you - and on you?
Have you never had a chance to meet the best people? Bible-thumping missionaries that you never knew existed; shake a murderer’s hand; call the jail birds by their first names, and remember all the mugs you see are not mugs B some are priests.
See
the movie you saw 15 years ago, if you are able to get near it. On the Teia it will seem new to you. Spend entrancing hours absorbing the Japanese
propaganda so thoughtfully provided.
Take long hours away on the line for soda pop B you won’t need to spend your
money, as it will all be sold out before you get to the window. Stifle in the airy, spacious second-class
dining salon, playing bridge in boiler-room temperature. Or one can have a cup of so-called coffee and a minute piece of
cake for a mere $15 B no, not for the whole party,
but $15 each! Where do you think you are, at the Ritz? Keep up your fighting spirit and get your
deck chairs early!
You won’t miss your boozy atmosphere, as your bed mates smell like a brewery. Are you afraid to sleep in the dark? There is no need to be, as 60 watt lights will shine in your eyes all night long on this grand ship Teia.
Are you sleepless? Try the luxurious coffin-sized mattress, stuffed with wooden clothes-pegs as a bed on the hardest ball-room floor afloat. No blankets needed -- the other 250 bed-fellows will keep you warm.
Don’t worry about clothes for the cruise - on the Teia it’s smart to be shabby. Have you worried about packing on other ship lines? Travel by N.Y.K and avoid it all. You’ll never unpack a thing on the Teia - there won’t be enough space! To the sophisticated traveler washing and ironing present no problem whatever aboard this luxury liner. Just throw your things overboard. Think of how glad the fish will be to chew your rags!
Have you ever been thirsty? Don’t risk it. To ask for a second glass of water elicits nothing but a steward’s vacant stare. Can’t read the signs? Don’t let an ignorance of French handicap you. The smell will guide you to where you want to go!
Rise with the lark, get ahead of the nuns and wash in a teaspoon of cold water in a basin with no stopper. Try our Japanese style bath once after the crew members have finished with theirs. Salt water, free of charge, provided for your teeth - both natural and false.
Do you want to reduce? Are you ashamed of that ugly rubber-tire bulge of your waist line? Rise from the table feeling that you could repeat the meal. Do not eat between meals B it can’t be done unless the boy first gets his $100 B from you. Does the sight of fruit in various ports make your mouth water? Forget about it - it is not for you. The Japanese police will chase the fruit boats away, and throw the fruit into the water in true co-prosperity fashion.
Try cold rice curry for a midnight snack - no spoons, just use your fingers or the handle of your tooth brush. The 60 watt lights will enable you to snare the dehydrated worms in the nick of time.
Don’t worry about the correct tips - the boy will be sure to tell you how much he wants. No steward can get a job on the N.Y.K. luxury liners unless he has served an apprenticeship of ten years with Ali Baba and his forty thieves. Have you paid a $10 cover charge and got no cover? You will on the Teia Maru!
On other lines you have never had occasion to use a life belt. On the Teia it is not so. You use it daily for a pillow and have it handy in case of ship wreck. Not less than ten other people will want the one you have, so be smart and get yours early.
Book early on this luxury liner, the gem of the N.Y.K. fleet. Travel exclusively by her and you will never have a moment’s comfort from the internment camp ‘till you leave the ship. And remember the Teia motto – “Nothing could be worse than this!”
De: "Dwight W. Whipple"
<thewhipples@comcast.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Fw: Fw: Greetings from New
Member
Date: mercredi 28 février 2007 20:03
Donald~
The correct date of the Life Magazine in question is December 20, 1943 [10cents]!
~Dwight
4728A
360.456.4300
thewhipples@comcast.net
De: "Dwight W. Whipple"
<thewhipples@comcast.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: LIFE & NYTimes Gripsholm
stories on CD
Date: mercredi 28 février 2007
20:49
Hi Ted~
Couldn't help but notice your
~Dwight W. Whipple
4728A
360.456.4300
thewhipples@comcast.net
-----
Original Message -----
From: Donald
Menzi
Sent:
Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:06 PM
Subject: Re:
Fw: Fw: Greetings from New Member
Thanks, Dwight,
When I get my replacement copy of Life, I will scan it and send it to Leopold along with copies of the New York Times articles chronicling the Gripsholm's journey.
By the way, it's very nice to have new people join this group, making it an ever-widening circle with a common interest, however tangential.
Donald
De: "David Birch"
<gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: My AKA???
Date: jeudi 1 mars 2007 3:32
Thank you, Pamela, for sharing your recollection. I did not realize that the piano was a Steinway, the Prince of Pianos, Wow!!! But I do remember listening to it being played many times. Do you remember Mr Percy Gleed? He was an outstanding pianist and often accompanied Sunday services. Miss Talati spent countless hours making the piano speak eloquently and sing impressively!
I also remember Mr Elden Whipple Sr, Dwight's father playing that piano just before so many of the Americans were repatriated!
Wonderful memories! I hope the piano received a good home after the war. A Steinway should last for generations if it is well maintained!
David
De: "Pamela Masters"
<pamela@hendersonhouse.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: My AKA???
Date: jeudi 1 mars 2007 3:54
Thanks, David, for mentioning Percy Gleed. I certainly remembered him, but I couldn't recall his name.
Isn't it lovely how time always smoothes out the rough spots in our lives ?
Pamela
Pamela Masters –
De: "R. E. Stannard
Jr." <restannardjr@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: LIFE & NYTimes Gripsholm stories on CD
Date: jeudi 1 mars 2007 4:32
We moved here from
years after you left. Yes, let's work out a rendezvous some time. Ted
--- "Dwight W. Whipple" <thewhipples@comcast.net> wrote:
De: "Donald Menzi"
<dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À: "weihsien"
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Gripsholm Articles
Date: jeudi 1 mars 2007 5:59
I tried emailing some NY Times articles about the Gripsholm, but they were over Topica's size limit.
I'll 'll have to send them to Leopold and he will put the on the web site to be downloaded.
Donald
De: "Donald Menzi"
<dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À: "weihsien"
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: The Gripsholm in the New York
Times
Date: vendredi 2 mars 2007 5:20
Hello, all,
I just emailed Leopold about two dozen articles about the Gripsholm that appeared in the New York Times from Sept. through Dec. 1943. He will post them somewhere in the Weihsien labyrinth and let us all know where to find and download them.
Donald
De: "Joyce Cook"
<bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: portraits
Date: vendredi 2 mars 2007 10:56
Dear WeiHsieners
As you can see from the email from Ivonne Ozorio (Now Rozicki) she has looked at her photo No. 22b and here is her response. I think it is her! Joyce Bradbury
----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Rozicki
To: Bob Bradbury
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: portraits
Hi! Bob/Joyce,
I finally figured out how to find the famous photos. With the help of Nathan,my grandson.
The one of me or supposed to be me, I am not sure because I dont remember what I looked like.
The more I look at that photo, the more I think that Albert is right, As far as the other photos are
concerned, I recognised Dennis Carter and The Tchoos, also Marinellis, the two sisters. Gay Talbot
I remember her. I know Joyce would know many more.
Sorry took so long. Thanks again.
Ivonne
-----
Original Message -----
From:
Bob Bradbury
To:
Tony Rozicki
Sent:
Tuesday, February 20, 2007 11:33 AM
Subject: Fw:
portraits
Dear Yvonne. There is a photograph that looks very much like you amongst some taken about the time of the liberation, Have a look at it and let me know. The photo can be found at http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/GregLeck/pages/p_portraits01 photo No. 22b. If you can identify anybody else amongst the photos let me know. Joyce.
De: "J. EDWARD IMMERGLUCK"
<IMMER0808@MSN.COM>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Copies of Life mag pictures
and articles re Gripsholm
Date: dimanche 4 mars 2007 4:59
Thanks for your generosity, Don. I too would enjoy and appreciate receiving those articles and pictures.
Sincerely,
Ed Immergluck immer0808@msn.com<mailto:immer0808@msn.com>
Co-organizer of 2006 OCH
-----
Original Message -----
From: Donald
Menzi
Sent:
Sunday, March 04, 2007 7:04 AM
Subject: Re:
Copies of Life mag pictures and articles re Gripsholm
Many of you have indicated an interest in the Life magazine photo essay about the Gripsholm. I have now scanned them all and sent them to Leopold Pander who will be creating a page for them along with the series of New York Times articles on the Gripsholm that I sent him last week. I think that this will satisfy most people's needs. If not, I am open to sending them on a CD to each of you separately, but I would guess that the Weihsien web site will work well enough for most of us.
In the mean time, if you want to read all
of the New York Times articles, tracking the Gripsholm as it went from
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/DonMenzi/indexFrame.htm
After you get there you can click on the thumbnail on the left margin to see the complete text of each article. Many of them are just brief notices, but the series shows how people all over the world were following the progress of the "mercy ship."
Leopold says this is a new format, so let him know how well it works for you. He will be setting up something similar for the Life photos.
Once again, this has proved that the web site has really become an invaluable archive for all of us.
Thank you again, Leopold.
Donald
De: "Dwight W. Whipple"
<thewhipples@comcast.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Copies of Life mag pictures
and articles re Gripsholm
Date: dimanche 4 mars 2007 8:28
Thanks, Don, for the stunning pictures and articles of the repatriation voyage. I remember it well as a seven year old. It was a great adventure then and a lot of memories are being stirred.
~Dwight W. Whipple
4728A
360.456.4300
thewhipples@comcast.net
De: "R. E. Stannard Jr." <restannardjr@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Copies of Life mag pictures
and articles re Gripsholm
Date: dimanche 4 mars 2007 10:48
Don -- much thanks for getting the set
posted. Everything was readable except the inside page on the
Could the individual clips on that inside page be posted separately, or is there away to "zoom in" that I haven't figured out?
By
the way, while on the Gripsholm trip I ran with a little "Gang of
Five" about my age(12) -- Carl Scovel, Charlie Loucks, Johnny Hayes, David
Phillipi (I'm not certain of that last spelling), and myself. Carl is the only
one I ever saw again, and we have remained in regular touch ever since renewing
acquaintance at
Does anyone on this list have any knowledge of the other three boys? I'd
be very interested in hearing anything about them -- then or now. Charlie's
father had been physician with a noted exhibition that gathered dinosauer eggs
& bones in
Our little gang turned entrepreneurial on the Gripsholm leg of the trip, setting up a shoe-shine business. Unfortunately we lost a pair or two along the way, and paying for them consumed whatever profit we might have made. Anyone recall anything like that?
On
the Teia Maru I remember the Japanese broke out a case or two of the English-language
propaganda books they had aboard for the returning Japanese from
I also remember we explored down into the bowels of the Teia Maru and found the darkened, spooky (and empty) swimming pool -- once an elegant place for a dip, I understand.
My
family did experience one remarkable coincidence on the TM: my mother and the
two youngest siblings were assigned to a cabin right next to one we had occupied
returning from a 1936 furlough in
Although my father and I had been assigned with the rest of the men & older boys to the wooden shelves in the hold, we were able to squeeze all five of us into the cabin together by having the two youngest double up in a bunk and my father sleeping on the floor between bunks.
Ted Stannard (chapei/gripsholm mar-sec1943)
De: "Tapol"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Copies of Life mag pictures
and articles re Gripsholm
Date: dimanche 4 mars 2007
12:20
Dear Ted,
On the right of the picture representing
the
If ever that doesn't work, I added the text as "attachment" to this mail ---
Let me know if this works OK for you?
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Copies of Life mag pictures
and articles re Gripsholm
Date: dimanche 4 mars 2007 13:50
I remember the
Must have been in 1948-49 before we left on
board the s/s President Cleveland for
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "Donald Menzi" <dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Copies of Life mag pictures
and articles re Gripsholm
Date: dimanche 4 mars 2007 19:34
Ted,
I'll re-send the
Don
De: "Tracy Strong"
<tstrong@weber.ucsd.edu>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Copies of Life mag pictures
and articles re Gripsholm
Date: lundi 5 mars 2007 0:06
Don -- is there any chance you could copy me on these
-- many thanks
TBS
--
Tracy B. Strong
De: "Donald Menzi"
<dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Copies of Life mag pictures
and articles re Gripsholm
Date: lundi 5 mars 2007 3:26
Sure, Tracy.
I'll copy you on what I send Leopold.
Donald
De: "R. E. Stannard
Jr." <restannardjr@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Copies of Life mag pictures
and articles re Gripsholm
Date: lundi 5 mars 2007 7:39
---
Leopold <tapol@skynet.be> wrote:
"On
the right of the picture representing the
Splendid! Worked perfectly! I hadn't thought to try that page-flipper.
Interesting, though it didn't include the interview I remember finding in the NYTimes back in graduate school. Perhaps that was a feature sidebar rather than part of the main story. I'll have to look it up one of these days.
>
I remember the
>
Before we arrived in the school, there was a garden with a jungle-Jim.
>
Must have been in 1948-49 before we left on board the s/s President Cleveland
for
Just got up and checked my postWWII SAS yearbooks. No Leopold in the 1948 Columbian, but p.38 of the blue-bound 1947 Columbian shows a Leopold Pander grinning in the front row (second from left) of the kindergarten class picture.
That you? I'll try to CC a copy to you separately. (I was on pg27, junior class)
Also note a Jeanne Pander in 3rd grade.(front row, second from right) Sister?
00
That picture makes you an alumnus and a hot candidate for our next global
all-SAS
reunion in
If we can lure you to
Regards, Ted Stannard SAS 37-38,46-48, chapei/gripsholm mar/dec43
De: "Tapol"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Cc: "Janette & Pierre
@ home" <pierre.ley@pandora.be>
Objet: Re: Copies of Life mag pictures
and articles re Gripsholm
Date: lundi 5 mars 2007 12:23
Dear Ted,
Fantastic --- thanks for the pictures ---- It's me all right :-)) I never saw those pictures --- and the other picture with my sister Janette is also the good one. I'll be adding those photographs to our "family treasures" ---
Thanks again,
Leopold
-----
Original Message -----
From: Raymond
Moore
Sent:
Saturday, March 10, 2007 5:35 AM
Subject: Mrs
Lack re Weihsien
Hello everyone.
I have been silent for some time, but have avidly read every word that
has been contributed.
A few weeks ago I had the pleasure of meeting Greg Leck when he came to
I have also recently been doing some more work on my story which is on
my website, and came across this letter which Mrs. Lack wrote to parents of
Dear all of you,
How are you after nearly four years?
I have had one Red Cross letter in three years and nine months, and I am
afraid most of mine never left this camp.
I am afraid you must wait for the story of these years until I get out
as work is almost night and day now as two of us are sorting and packing for
the boys. We have used curtains,
mattress covers, table cloths, anything we could lay our hands on to cut out
and make clothes they can wear when they travel home. We have lost everything, and so has the
school, except for our dirty bedding.
The bed bugs have been at their worst during this hot weather, and I am
afraid our boxes will all have to be fumigated.
At last the war is over. We heard it whispered by a Chinese, but we
did not believe it because we have been hearing it at least once a week
anyway. Last Friday, on August 17th, an
American B24 flew over. We all knew it
was not a Japanese place because it flew lower and lower, backwards and
forwards and so low it blew our hats off.
We shouted and cheered and laughed and cried. You can have no idea what this meant to
us. One of the children ran to me and
said, AOh, Mrs. Lack, will Mummy know they are flying over us?@ AYes@ I said, Aby this evening it will be broadcast all over the world
Our children have been wonderful and it has not been easy for them. We have had no beds for over three years and
have hardly been able to keep clean with just one piece of soap a month. Mr. Bruce, Mrs. Houghton and the boys have
taken on the washing of sheets for the past eight months as we were all
breaking down under it. Four of us did
it most of the time until I was ill last summer, then we started a squad
arrangement, Mrs. Houghton, Miss Williams, Mrs. Henderson and I do the minor
wash, but others relieve us for the last basket, and the sheets are done by the
team I mentioned above. Mending and
finding clothes and bug fighting fill the rest of the time. Now we look forward to beds, clean beds, and
a meal set at a table.
To get back to August 17th. After
the American plane had flown back and forth over us for about 10 minutes, it
suddenly rose to about 600 feet and to our surprise, seven men parachuted down,
followed by 25 loads of supplies. What a
sight! It was nearly more than we could
bear. Men dashed to the West Wall and
over they went. Then we all broke bounds,
men, women and children ran past the Japanese guard and out through the gate
while the guard stood helpless. After the men had parachuted down, they said
they flew low because they thought they might be fired on, and also they had to
be sure it was the right place as nobody was quite sure where the camp
was. The first thing the Major told us
was that we must go back inside again as peace had not yet been signed, and it
was still dangerous. We are all quiet
again now and do not expect to move yet.
The sick will leave by plane first, possibly this week, including one of
our CIM boys.
We had a Victory supper yesterday outside on the playing field, where
each had a tomato and an apple - a real feast as we had all been longing for
some fresh fruit. The Chinese have been
sending in food too, so we are almost overwhelmed. When we ran outside the gates on the day the
Americans arrived, the Chinese were shocked at all the bare feet, and some of
them picked up the children to carry them to the camp. The men and the boys were all shirtless too,
so gifts of vests have been coming in from Chinese outside. I think the dear souls thought we had no
clothes at all. Chinese Christians keep coming
to the gate to bring us food, but after the lean fare of the past years, we
find we cannot eat so much now that we have it.
I was sick on Victory Day after eating an apple, but we will get used to
it.
This is a sample of the menu we have been used to:
Breakfast - bread and water
Lunch - stew and tea
Dinner - Soup and water.
Two slices of bread and clear tea once a day, no milk at all, a small
amount of sugar till May of this year and since then none at all. The little children and babies had a little
milk. We have had one Red Cross parcel
since coming here, though the airmen tell us America sent one every month.@
My mother comments on this letter as
follows:
"This
letter from Mrs. Lack was the first real news we had of the conditions Raymond
had lived under for the past three years at least, and we marvelled that he
looked as well as he did. Unpacking his
trunk, I was amused and moved to find one pair of pyjamas - one of the pairs I
had sent him to school with five years before.
They had been added to a number of times as he grew, and the material
was very thin and well patched. A note
from one of the staff apologised that the colour of the pyjamas and the few
sheets she had sent back were such a dirty gray, but they had had to wash
everything without soap, so it was impossible to get things really clean."
Bev & Ray Moore
Phone and Fax: (613) 5174 0531
Website: http://home.vicnet.net.au/~raymoore
Blog: http://raym82.blogspot.com
De: "Joyce Cook"
<bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Fw: Greetings from New
Member
Date: samedi 10 mars 2007 8:45
Hi Donald.
Yes please I would love one. Joyce Bradbury.
De: "Tapol"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Mrs Lack re Weihsien
Date: samedi 10 mars 2007 10:09
Dear Raymond,
Thanks for your web-site and blog address ---- fantastic :-))
Marvellous layout ---
congratulations ---
Leopold
De:
<grannydavies@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re:Donald Menzi.
Date: dimanche 11 mars 2007
2:33
Hello Donald Menzi, I would like to have your pictures from Weihsien,
Thanks, Phyllis (Evans) Davies@
De: "Eddie Cooke"
<shedco@optusnet.com.au>
À: "Weihsien@Topica.Com"
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Greetings from new member
Date: mercredi 14 mars 2007 1:25
Hi there Donald,
Yes please, I too would love a copy of your latest masterpiece! I just wish I had a fraction of your flair, creativity and computer knowhow .
Eddie Cooke,
De: "John Stanley"
<stanley@kutztown.edu>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Weifang No. 2 Middle School
Date: lundi 19 mars 2007 2:28
Dear topica list:
This summer I will be traveling to
John Stanley
De: "David Birch"
<gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weifang No. 2 Middle School
Date: lundi 19 mars 2007 6:44
Hullo John,
I'm glad you are interested in Weifang. Our host while we were there in 2005 was a remarkable gentleman named Mr Sui Shude. I think Sui is his surname and Shude (probably pronounced Shoo Deh with accent on final syllable) is his given name. He acted as our tour guide and interpreter, and accompanied us nearly everywhere we went. He has an official position with the Weifang city government I believe. There's also a woman from Weifang city who has sent us some emails to keep in touch. She is asking us for information we may have that would help them to make a movie documentary of Weihsien Camp!
It's late and I must get to bed but I will send you the email addresses Monday morning!
Blessings!
David
De: "Donald Menzi"
<dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Cc: "shude" <suishude@sohu.com>;
"shude-1" <suishude@sina.com>
Objet: Re: Weifang No. 2 Middle School
Date: lundi 19 mars 2007 7:08
John,
Your host should definintely be Sui Shude, of the Weifang translator's bureau. Two email addresses I have for him are:
suishude@sohu.com
suishude@sina.com
There may be a more recent address, which I will send you if I find it. I think you find him and the other Weifang government people to be exceedingly graceous, wonderful hosts.
Donald
De: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: From Weifang
Date: lundi 19 mars 2007 9:07
--- This message must help you to contact Mr. Sui Shude ---
Best regards,
Leopold
----- Original Message -----
From: suishude@sohu.com
To: Neil Yorkston
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:47 PM
Subject: From Weifang
From Sui Shude, Weifang
Dear Weihsieners and Weihsien Friends-related,
Today Last yyear, August 17th 2006, Weifang
People's Government and Weifang Foreign Affairs Office held the celebration on
"The 60th Anniversary of the Liberation of the Weihsien Camp" in
I am so proud that in that short period of time, with the help of many friends all over the world, to find, contact and invite so many Weihsieners and families for the occasion. Here I want to say THANK YOU to those friends who offered great help to me on my contacting job.
I especially want to extend my sincere thanks to Assemblywoman Mary Previte of U.S.A., Bill Einreinhofer, David Beard, David Birch, Desmond Power, Donald Menzi, Estelle Cliff Horne, Francis Joyce, Gladys Swift, Ian Grant, James Taylor, Jim More, Joyce Bradbury, Leopold Pander, Natasha Petersen, Neil Yorkston, Nicky Leopold, Norman Cliff,Pamela Masters, Roy Campbell, Tracy Strong and many other friends that all on my list.
We are so happy that all the people participated in the meeting enjoy their trip and stay. We are so happy that our government find the right time to hold a celebration like that. We are so happy that the celebration aroused the interest of so many people and sounded the whole world.
Weifang People's Government will try all the best to maintain the camp-site well, as well as the exhibition rooms and the old houses, and to furnish more and more new-collected articles, information and content to it, to preserve this historical site forever to tell and teach the younger generations. And most important, to keep it for memories and visits of all Weihsieners and their ! families all over the world.
Today, as the contacting organizer of the the celebration meeting, I am thinking of you all, who came to the celebration, who contacted me for information of the event and who visited the camp-site with me.....
I wish you all the best and look forward to see any of you again in Weifang.
Sui Shude
Foreign and Overseas Chinese Affairs Office of
Weifang People's Government
E-mail: suishude@sohu.com
E-Mail:
emailshude@yahoo.com.cn
Tel/Fax:++86-536-8233692
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De: "guiying
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weifang No. 2 Middle School
Date: mardi 20 mars 2007 13:19
Hello John:
This is jenny, director of foreign affairs office, Weifang municipal
Government. I am so glad that you are
interested in our camp, and hope to be of help now we are preparing to make a
movie documentary about it and scheduled to go to
RGDS
JENNY
De: "Donald Menzi"
<dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À: "weihsien"
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: NY Times and Life Magazine
Coverage of The Gripsholm
Date: mardi 20 mars 2007 17:08
I have finally figured out how to distribute copies of the NY Times and Life magazine coverage of the Gripsholm without having to make CDs for everyone. If you will go to my "family" web site - http://d.menzi.org - and click on the word 'Directory" at the top of the page, you will find a section called "Special Downloads." Clicking on the documents listed there will open them and you can copy them to your computer, saving them to whatever folder you wish. If you don't already have Adobe Acrobat Reader, which is necessary to the process, it also tells you how to get it.
This should take care of everyone who sent me an email asking for a copy of these articles - and anyone else who is interested, too. If you are unable to get this to work, let me know and we'll figure something else out.
By the time you have finished reading this, Leopold will probably have already made them available for downloading from the main Wehsien site, but you may find this route simpler to navigate.
Donald
De: "Donald Menzi"
<dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À: "weihsien"
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: 1945 Leaflet - also Life and NY
Times Gripholm coverage
Date: mardi 20 mars 2007 17:09
Hello, all,
A friend of mine who was interned in Shanghai as a young boy recently went back to his old stamp collection and came across one of the leaflets that was dropped by U.S. planes in August 1945 telling Allied prisoners that the war was almost over and they would be liberated soon. I have attached a jpeg file copy of the leaflet.
Does anyone remember this from Weihsien?
Also, I have finally figured out how to distribute copies of the NY Times and Life magazine coverage of the Gripsholm without having to make CDs for everyone. If you will go to my "family" web site - http://d.menzi.org - and click on the word 'Directory" at the top of the page, you will find a section called "Special Downloads." Clicking on the documents listed there will open them and you can copy them to your computer, saving them to whatever folder you wish. If you don't already have Adobe Acrobat Reader, which is necessary to the process, it also tells you how to get it.
This should take care of everyone who sent me an email asking for a copy of these articles - and anyone else who is interested, too. If you are unable to get this to work, let me know and we'll figure something else out.
By the time you have finished reading this, Leopold will probably have already made them available for downloading from the main Wehsien site, but you may find this route simpler to navigate.
Donald
De: "Donald Menzi"
<dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: 1945 Leaflet - also Life and
NY Times Gripholm coverage
Date: mardi 20 mars 2007 17:58
By now you have probably received at least two versions of my last email - one with the leaflet attached and one without, because Topica kept bouncing them back until I had reduced the size of the attached file sufficiently and I wasn't sure that the leafletted version would ever make it.
I would add that I have also made available
for downloading Howard Galt's memoirs of his time in Weihsien and the Gripsholm
journey. I learned about these documents
from the end notes in John Hersey's novel, The Call and obtained copies from
the
I have also posted a document describing my grandparents' Gripsholm experience. My grandmother's is a satirical piece about life aboard the Teia Maru, while George Wilder's describes the entire journey from an ornithologist's viewpoint, which may be mostly of interest to bird-lovers.
I'm happy that the Gripsholm material has turned out to be of interest to so many of you. It adds to the pleasure of assembling it.
Donald
De: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: 1945 Leaflet - also Life and
NY Times Gripholm coverage
Date: mardi 20 mars 2007 18:37
Thanks Donald ---- all is absolutely perfect, readable and printable ---
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "Alison Holmes"
<aholmes@prescott.edu>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: 1945 Leaflet - also Life and NY Times Gripholm coverage
Date: mardi 20 mars 2007 19:50
Oh I am so pleased to see this leaflet! I have remembered it vividly and so have been surprised that others have not been mentioning it, but in my memory I have conflated the pamphlets and the liberation on the same morning. I see us in the church having a singing lesson, seeing the plane out of the window, running past the ineffectively protesting teacher, out on to the roll call field, seeing the pamphlets, then seeing the plane re-circle and finally the seven brightly coloured parachutes and rushing to the main gate. What tricks memory can play!
Alison
De: "Donald Menzi"
<dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: 1945 Leaflet - also Life and
NY Times Gripholm coverage
Date: mardi 20 mars 2007 20:32
Alison,
Your memory may not be faulty. This one came from
What do others of you remember?
Donald
De: "lucy lu"
<lucy9859@hotmail.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Cc:
<dmenzi@earthlink.net>
Date: mercredi 21 mars 2007 11:02
Dear Donald Menzi,
Glad to say that I’ve got your CD mailed which is so precious and interesting. I’ll value it very much. Now I’d like to, on behalf of Ms. Wang, director of Weifang foreign and overseas Chinese affairs office, say thanks very much for your kindness and helpfulness.
Best regards.
Sincerely,
lucy
interpreter and vice section chief,
section for
weifang foreign and overseas chinese affairs office
De: "rod miller"
<rmmiller@optusnet.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: 1945 Leaflet - also Life and
NY Times Gripholm coverage
Date: jeudi 22 mars 2007 5:07
Donald
>I'm happy that the Gripsholm material has turned out to be of interest to so many of you. It adds to the pleasure of assembling it.
>
>Donald
Many thanks for all your efforts.
Rod
De: <MTPrevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Weihsie -- facts about its early
history as a college
Date: dimanche 25 mars 2007 0:17
Here's an early history of the COURTYARD OF
THE HAPPY WAY that later became the “
This fascinating excerpt comes from “The
First in
Mary T. Previte
The first college in
He believed that since social superstitions
had held
Usually he was stern and serious in manner, a splendid image in those days for a
school principal. Students nicknamed
him “Di Lao Hu,” roughly translated “Di, the Tiger.” He forbade the use of tobacco and alcohol either inside or outside the
campus. During Dr. Mateer’s tenure
at
Henry Winters Luce, a Presbyterian missionary, was also a teacher at the
college. (Luce was the father of Henry R.
Luce, who later founded and became Managing
Director of the
When an already-existing school at Weihsien was burned during the Boxer Rebelion of 1900, Henry Winters Luce raised money to rebuild it as a university.
In 1901, Watson M. Hayes, D.D., Calvin Mateer’s successor, left Tengchow College to establish a
provincial college in Tsinan (now called
Jinan, the provincial capital) and also
established the first daily newspaper in Shandong province. The college was
moved to Weihsien in 1904. Weihsien was
halfway by rail between Tsingtao (
College merged with a college founded by British Baptists in Tsingchow (now called Yidu).
The new school at Weihsien became a university with colleges of the arts,
medicine, and theology with 120
students. Due to primitive transportation
using only mules, it took more than a year for the laboratory and workshops to
be set up on the new college campus. Living
on the campus during his retirement, Calvin Mateer erected a windmill near his
workshop, a landmark visible for a few
miles southeast of the city of
In 1917,
the college moved from Weihsien to Tsinan and merged with medical colleges from Hankow,
Naning, Peking, Mukden and became known as
Today, the
During World War II (1941-1945) after
Among the prisoners interned at Weihsien were Watson M. Hayes, his wife and son. Hayes was a successor to Calvin Mateer and a founder and principal of the North China Theological Seminary established in Tenghsien. For many reasons, he refused to be repatriated under the 1943 prisoner exchange arranged by the International Red Cross. Watson Hayes, 86, died in 1944 just one year before the camp was liberated.
(Note from Mary Previte: What memories have you of John Hayes, the son of Watson Hayes, in Weihsien?)
(Moses Chu, a scholar, businessman, and prolific writer, grew up in
De: "R. E. Stannard
Jr." <restannardjr@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsie -- facts about its
early history as a college
Date: dimanche 25 mars 2007 1:43
---
MTPrevite@aol.com wrote:
>
Among the oprisoners interned at
Weihsien were Watson M. Hayes, his wife and son. Hayes was a successor
to Calvin Mateer and a founder and
principal of the North China Theological
Seminary established in Tenghsien.
>
For many reasons, he refused to be repatriated
under the 1943 prisoner exchange arranged by the International Red
Cross. Watson Hayes, 86, died in 1944 just one year before the camp was liberated.
>
(Note from Mary Previte: What memories have you of John Hayes, the son
of Watson Hayes, in Weihsien?)
Mary, I was at Chapei, not Weihsien, but on the Gripsholm I ran with a fellow 12-year-old named Johnny Hayes -- not likely the son of an 85-year-old! But quite possibly a grandson, if Watson's son John also had a wife & son there.
Anybody know? I've wondered ever since what happened to
Johnny and two other members of our Gripsholm gang of five, Charlie Loucks and
David Philippi. The fifth, Carl Scovel, was my schoolmate at
Ted Stannard [R.E.Stannard Jr.]
De: "R. E. Stannard
Jr." <restannardjr@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsie -- facts about its
early history as a college
Date: dimanche 25 mars 2007 2:35
I did google up this information on John
David Hayes, Watson Hayes son, and learned there that his wife and two youngest
of their fivechildren had been sent to the
Ted Stannard
=================
http://webtext.library.yale.edu/xml2html/divinity.127.con.html
John David Hayes
Chronology
1888 Feb 23
Born in Tengchowfu,
1910
A.B.,
1911
Appointed Rhodes Scholar from
1914
B.A.,
1914-1915
Service with Y.M.C.A. in
1916 Married Barbara M. Kelman
1917
B.D.,
1917-1952
Presbyterian Church in the
1918 -1931 Involved in various flood and famine relief projects
1925 -1942
Served on faculty and administration of
1943 Mar - 1945 Sep Interned by Japanese authorities in Weihsien
Civilian Assembly Centre,
1948
Returned to
1949 -1951 Mar Taught at government university following Communist takeover
1951 Oct - 1952 Sep Jailed by Communists
1955
Went to
1957
Died from injuries suffered in an automobile accident in
=================================
http://www.mundus.ac.uk/cats/3/28.htm
Hayes, John D. (1888-1957) and Hayes, Barbara M. (b 1893)
Administrative/Biographical history:
John David Hayes, American Presbyterian
missionary in
Barbara Hayes did mission work with women and with the children of missionaries as well as raising five children herself.
The Hayes were on furlough from 1923-24 and
from 1936-37 when Hayes studied in
The Hayes were assigned to the
After his death Barbara Hayes travelled
throughout
De: "georgeanna knisely"
<jknisely@paonline.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsie -- facts about its
early history as a college
Date: dimanche 25 mars 2007 3:00
John Hayes was our neighbor in Weihsien
with his parents. He married my husband and me in 1955. Johnny Hayes and John's
mother were in the
I am now 74 years old. Do not have an
address for him. John Hayes was killed in an accident in
John Hayes' experience in Communist prison was written up in Reader's Digest - don't know when and not certain I have a copy - will look.
Georgie Reinbrecht Knisely
De: "Eddie Cooke"
<shedco@optusnet.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: re 1945 leaflet
Date: dimanche 25 mars 2007 11:49
Alison and anyone else interested--
I'm pretty sure we didn't have any of the
I clearly remember being in the hospital, which is still standing, having my lower lip dressed after I had split it a week earlier playing, looking out the window and seeing the B24 "Armoured Angel" with a pin up girl in a bathing suit painted on the side. The nurse dropped everything and ran out followed by me. I hightailed it back to my Block 2 and of course the rest is history. I haven't got a scanner but I'll try and have someone else put it on the Topica site.
Regards to all, Eddie Cooke.
De: "R. E. Stannard
Jr." <restannardjr@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsie -- facts about its
early history as a college
Date: dimanche 25 mars 2007 20:35
Georgeanna, thanks for the interesting
detail on John Hayes and Johnny. Do you have any idea what Johnny went on to
do? The name is too common to be much use in an internet search without some
other defining details. I've tried searches for John Hayes with other cue-words
like "china" "
Ted Stannard, Chapei/Gripsholm'43
De: "georgeanna knisely"
<jknisely@paonline.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsie -- facts about its
early history as a college
Date: dimanche 25 mars 2007 22:55
John Hayes ran for State Congress in
Thank you or Mary for the John David Hayes papers at Yale. Hoping to look them up.
Georgie (John would probably remember me as Dusty)Reinbrecht Knisely
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald Menzi
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 12:21 AM
Subject: Re:
re 1945 leaflet
Eddie,
Daqvid Michell includes a reproduction of the leaflet you remember in "A Boy's War." Norman Cliff also has the text of two other leaflets by General Wedemeyer, stating that they were dropped in August 1945 by American planes, but doesn't specifically say they were dropped on Weihsien.
Leopold already has them all somewhere in his site, but I'd love to get a scanned image of the one you have. Could you email it directly to me at dmenzi@earthlink.net.
Thanks.
What do others of you remember about this?
Donald
De: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: re 1945 leaflet
Date: lundi 26 mars 2007 8:37
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/NormanCliff/escape/p-AlliedPrisonners.htm
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/NormanCliff/escape/p-Wedemeyer.htm
Try these shortcuts ---
Leopold
De: "R. E. Stannard Jr."
<restannardjr@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: John Hayes & others
Date: lundi 26 mars 2007 18:32
georgeanna, thanks for the information, though I'm not turning anything up on the internet about his campaign for office.
Do you know which party? Have any other personal details? A middle initial can be very useful. His profession? Where he went to college? Wife's name, perhaps?
Names of brothers or sisters?
The internet is a wonderful data base to search, but has so many thousands of hits for a common name like John Hayes that the problem becomes bringing the right John Hayes to the top. So these small things can help sort.
So far you are my only link!
Meanwhile, it's a long shot, but I'd also be delighted if anyone on this listserv should happen to know anything about my two other Gripsholm gangmates, Charlie Loucks and David Philippi (sp?)
Charlie's father was teaching medicine in
David Philippi came on board at
Thanks, Ted Stannard
De: "georgeanna knisely"
<jknisely@paonline.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: John Hayes & others
Date: mardi 27 mars 2007 6:10
Sorry, I do not remember anything more. I will try to see if I can find someone else who might know about him. I will keep your email. Georgie
De: "rod miller"
<rmmiller@optusnet.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: John Hayes & others
Date: mercredi 28 mars 2007 3:14
Ted
Have you thought about writing to Yale?
From the link below the family of John David Hayes donated his papers.
http://webtext.library.yale.edu/xml2html/divinity.127.con.html
Divinity Library Special Collections
<mailto:divinity.library@yale.edu>divinity.library@yale.edu
Perhaps they could put you in touch with the family.
Might be worth an email.
R
De: "David Birch"
<gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsien -- facts about its
early history as a college
Date: mercredi 28 mars 2007 5:19
Mary,
This material is utterly fascinating. Thank
you for providing it! John Hayes was my guardian coming home from
With love
David Birch
De: "David Birch"
<gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: "Weihsien"
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Some notes on the life and times
of John David Hayes 1888 - 1957
Date: mercredi 28 mars 2007 11:19
'The Brainwashing of John Hayes' Readers Digest July 1955
Written by Frederic Sondern, Jr
The above article was developed into a television drama with the teleplay written by George Bruce based on Sondern's article.
The television drama aired 7 November 1955 and was sponsored by TV Readers Digest.
In the TV program, the role of John Hayes was played by the actor Vincent Price. The TV program was also titled, "The Brainwashing of John Hayes." A number of ethnic Chinese actors took the parts of the communist jailers.
The following notes are based on the Guide
to the John David Hayes Papers, Compiled by Martha L. Smalley, Yale University
Library, Divinity Library Special Collections.
You will find the material if you search on Google specifying,
Missionary John Hayes, Rhodes Scholar.
Chronology
1888 Feb 23 Born in Tengchowfu,
1910 A.B.,
1911 Appointed Rhodes Scholar from
1914
1914-1915 Service with YMCA in
1916 Married Barbara M Kelman
1917
B.D.,
1917 - 1952
Presbyterian Church in the
1918 - 1931 Involved in various flood and famine relief projects.
1925 - 1942 Served on faculty and administration of College
of Chinese Studies,
1943 Mar - 1945 Sep Interned by Japanese authorities in
1948
Returned to
Province
1949 - 1951 Mar Taught at government university following
Communist takeover
1951 Oct - 1952 Sep Jailed by Communists
1955
Went to
1957 Died from injuries suffered in an automobile accident
in
There is quite a lot more. If you are interested you may find it through Google as I mentioned.
Blessings! John Hayes was a truly great man who gave his life and energy unstintingly in the service of the Lord Jesus Christ and his fellow humans regardless of race.
Sincerely
David
De: "Jie Lu"
<ljoverseas@126.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: wf camp
Date: jeudi 29 mars 2007 9:15
Dear Sirs/Madams,
I'm from Weifang, formerly WeiHsien, and so interested in the history of Weifang internment camp from 1943 to 1945. recently I've read so many messages here about internees and Japanese guards that I wish to find some former Japanese guards and talk with them. Any information about them will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks so much.
Jie Lu
weifang
De: <MTPrevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Some notes on the life and
times of John David Hayes 1888 - 1957
Date: dimanche 1 avril 2007 3:20
Good job, David! What fascinating information from you and Georgie Knisley!
Thanks to both of you.
Mary Previte
De: "Eddie Cooke"
<shedco@optusnet.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: re 1945 leaflet
Date: mardi 3 avril 2007 9:37
Hi all,
I've not been able to get the leaflet on to the Topica site, so far, but I will keep trying. In the meantime, a Happy Easter to everyone.
Eddie.
De: "rod miller"
<rmmiller@optusnet.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Comfort goods Teia
Maru
Date: mardi 3 avril 2007 12:33
Hello
The following is from http://www.salship.se/leck/captives_of_empire.asp Gregs book.
Loaded aboard the Teia Maru were 1,600
short tons of humanitarian supplies valued at over US$1.3 million. The cargo
included 140,000 thirteen pound food parcels, 2,885 cases of medical supplies,
7 million vitamin capsules, 950 cases of comfort articles for men and women, 24
million cigarettes, and clothing. These items were eventually unloaded in
According to the Rabaul nurses diaries the
Teia Maru arrived back in
Do any of you know if there was any
correlation between those chosen from Weihsien to go on the 2nd American
exchange, Teia Maru to Goa, Gripsolm to
The reason for all the questions is that I
have been researching the exchanges for many years now, for the Australian
women were specifically chosen by a Japanese prince in Rabaul, for political
purposes, to be part of the first British exchange. But as was typical for the
times, completely illogical politics and bureaucracy [both sides] prevented
their departure. There was only one British exchange and the women were trapped
in
Sorry about all the questions but there aren't to many people who were there left to ask any more...
Kind Regards
Rod
De: <grannydavies@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Comfort goods
Teia Maru
Date: mercredi 4 avril 2007
0:56
My name was Phyllis Evans from Weihsien,
We did get some Red Cross packages but the Japanese opened them and took whatever they wanted out .then we got the meagre remainder. We also had visits from the Swiss consul. He was able to get an X-ray into camp badly needed .One death I know of might have been saved had we received the machine earlier.
Mostly the poor man was just wasting his time and efforts,
Our commandant was not very friendly.
De: "rod miller"
<rmmiller@optusnet.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Comfort goods
Teia Maru
Date: jeudi 5 avril 2007 0:31
Dear Phyllis
Thank you for your reply.
At 08:41 AM 4/04/2007, you wrote:
>My
name was PhyllisEvans from Weihsien, We
did get some red cross packages but the Japanese opened them and took whatever
they wanted out .then we got the meagre remainder.
I wondered if this isn't what happened in
The Rabaul nurses were in a funny situation
for they had been taken and held in
> We also had visits from the Swiss consul.
I wonder if you could remember what year this might have been?
>He was able to get an Xray into camp badly needed .
Ahh this is interesting. Did you ever wonder why the Japanese suddenly let him bring such a item to your camp?
>One
death I know of might have been saved had we recieved the machine
earlier.Mostly the poor man was just wasting his time and efforts,Our commandant was not very friendly.
Well at least you had a commandant! The Rabaul girls only had guards and they changed all the time because they got bored to death doing nothing. At one point they had a couple of guards who were quite vicious and they were lucky to survive their reign of terror. From what I've read on these pages that is where you were a little better off. There were a lot of you and you had enough to do. The Rabaul women were kept together in close quarters for 3 years 9 months. Near the end I suggest it was almost "every man for himself" for them. But as Lornatold me just last year when we were discussing the Red Cross boxes that arrived in Dec 1943 "miracles do happen".
In
Thanks again.
Rod
De: <grannydavies@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Comfort goods
Teia Maru
Date: jeudi 5 avril 2007 6:26
Dear Rod, you are welcome, for the reply. I
was able to attend the Old China Hands Reunion in
De: "rod miller"
<rmmiller@optusnet.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Comfort goods
Teia Maru
Date: mardi 10 avril 2007 3:07
Dear Phyllis
At 02:04 PM 5/04/2007, you wrote:
>Dear
Rod, you are welcome, for the reply. I was able to attend the
>Old
China Hands Reunion in
>people
from Shangai and Hongkong. am glad I went.My father was
>friends
with most of the consuls in
>to
the Danish consul.
>The
Japanese consul came to our house when he heard we were being interned.
So your sister wasn't interned due to her husband’s diplomatic status?
>The
diplomatic service had no knowledge of
>was
very upset.He told us he would do anything he could to help us
>but had no control over camp as it was military.
When my father was
>dying
he gave mysister and her husband a very generous pass to come
>down
and see him, but the camp commandant only let them in twice.My
>father died there.Phyllis
I'm sorry to hear about your father it must have been very hard for you.
If I understand this correctly the Japanese consul gave your sister a travel pass to come down and see you but the camp commandant was reluctant to let her visit. Any idea why?
It must have been confusing for your family
outside of
Kind Regards
Rod
De: "David Birch"
<gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: John Hayes & others
Date: jeudi 12 avril 2007 6:27
Hi Folks,
I remember Mr Hayes well. He was my
guardian, and the guardian of all the Chefoo children being repatriated on the
USS Lavaca, an attack troop transport vessel from
When Mary Previte ( a former classmate of mine at Chefoo and Weihsien) asked recently on Weihsien@topica, if any of us had memories of John Hayes from Weihsien Camp days, I decided to do my own research.
I remembered from long ago hearing that Mr
Hayes had, as a young man, been a Rhodes Scholar from the
So I simply typed in to the search engine, GOOGLE, a few particulars. Within a minute or two I had information about the Digest article, as well as particulars on actual copies of the relevant magazine issue. As I recall, you can obtain a copy of this magazine, the original, for a little over $9.00 US.
Then I typed in to Google, Missionary John David Hayes, Rhodes Scholar. Again, within moments, I had pages of valuable information including a timeline of his life, date of birth, etc., dates of colleges attended and graduation date. Date accepted as Rhodes Scholar, date of marriage and name of spouse. You can get it all by simply typing in what I typed in to Google (mentioned above).
Incidentally, while we were traveling
across the
Mr Hayes made sure that the captain saw the results of our work. The final result was that the captain gathered us youngsters together and awarded us special certificates of recognition of our services to the United States Navy. To this day I have my treasured certificate giving my name and stating that in recognition of my services performed at Latitude such and such and Longitude so and so, I was hereby made an honorary cockswain in the United States Navy.
Of course, after that, regardless of Mr
Hayes's academic achievements at Princeton and
I am privileged to have known Mr Hayes as a personal friend!
Sincerely
David Birch
De: "Donald Menzi"
<dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À: "weihsien"
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Weihsien and Gripsholm
"Slide Shows"
Date: mardi 17 avril 2007 3:53
Hello fellow Weihsieners,
For some time now I have been trying to figure out how to get the Weihsien "Walking Tour," Gripsholm Repatriation Voyage and 60th Anniversary Celebration "slide shows" onto a web site so anyone could see (and hear) them whenever they might want to. I finally found a program (Camtasia Studio) that made it possible, and have posted them on my "family" web-site where you can view them if you care to. The same page also contains links to the New York Times and Life Magazine articles on The Gripsholm journey and also the Wilders' and Howard Galt's memoirs of Weihien and the Gripsholm, all of which you can download to your computer and print.
The animation on the slide shows is a little more "jerky" than I would like, and I still plan to send CDs to those of you who have specifically requested them.
To view the videos, go to the following web site: http://d.menzi.org (note that there is no "www." Then click on the "Weihsien-Gripsholm" link at the top of the page. Be sure your speakers are turned on so you can to hear the background music, which starts after the first few frames.
It is possible that you will need to download some free software to play them. Just follow the on-screen instructions and that shouldn't be too difficult. Let me know if you encounter any insurmountable problems.
All the best,
Donald Menzi
De: <MTPrevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: unabridged article about 1st
college in
Date: mardi 17 avril 2007 5:16
Hello, Everybody:
You'll be interested in the unabridged
article written by Moses Chu for eBao
Magazine. The first college in
_http://www.ebaomonthly.com:2480/ebao/readebao.php?eID=e01822_
(http://www.ebaomonthly.com:2480/ebao/readebao.php?eID=e01822)
Leopold Pander has also included it on his Weihsien web site:
_http://www.weihsien-paintings.org_ (http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/)
You can access it at the logo listed below. Thank you, Leopold.
(http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/Mprevite/EbaoMonthly/CalvinMateer.htm
)
Mary Previte
De: "Dwight W. Whipple"
<thewhipples@comcast.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsien and Gripsholm
"Slide Shows"
Date: mardi 17 avril 2007 21:09
For some reason the Menzi file would not open for me.
~Dwight
--
4728A
360.456.4300
thewhipples@comcast.net
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald Menzi
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: Weihsien and Gripsholm
"Slide Shows"
Dwight (and anyone else having trouble opening it)
Be sure you use the exact address: http://d.menzi.org - with no www in front of it. If clicking on the link doesn't do it try copying this into your address line. You might also try http://wilder.menzi.org ,
Let me know if this works. If not, I'll try to trouble-shoot it from here.
Donald
De: <smallchief@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsien and Gripsholm
"Slide Shows"
Date: mardi 17 avril 2007 23:04
The downloads worked perfectly for me. The "Walking Tour" of Weihsien is
quite a production. Thanks for making it available. S. Chief
De: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsien and Gripsholm
"Slide Shows"
Date: mercredi 18 avril 2007 10:40
Dear Dwight,
Try clicking on one of these links ---
http://reced.org/dmenzi/wilders/Weihsien_04-10-07/Weihsien_04-10-07.html
http://reced.org/dmenzi/wilders/Gripsholm_04-10-07-b/Gripsholm_04-10-07-b.html
http://reced.org/dmenzi/wilders/Gripsholm_Chinese_04-12-07/Gripsholm_Chinese_04-12-07.html
http://reced.org/dmenzi/wilders/Weifang_Web_4-11-07/Weifang_Web_4-11-07.html
if that doesn't work --- make sure your computer has "flash player" installed ---
--- Click on this link:
http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
Good luck and best regards ---
Leopold
De: "Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: Weihsien and Gripsholm
"Slide Shows"
Date: mercredi 18 avril 2007 16:49
I clicked too fast on the "send-a-message" icon ---
I wanted to add that Don has done a marvellous job and it's real nice of him to share it with all of us :-)) ---
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "Dwight W. Whipple" <thewhipples@comcast.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsien and Gripsholm
"Slide Shows"
Date: mercredi 18 avril 2007 18:26
Thanks, Leopold. The flash player did the trick. Somehow it must have become uninstalled on my computer. Works fine now.
~Dwight
--
De: "rod miller" <rmmiller@optusnet.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Donald's must see slide shows!!
Date: jeudi 19 avril 2007 5:36
Dear Donald
As a complete outsider to this topica group I have to tell you that your new slide show web sites are just amazing!!!
I only arrived here through researching the internee exchanges and knew nothing of Weihsien till I happened upon Leopold's terrific site. I was lucky enough to start reading here just prior to your return trip to Weihsien. The story of the trip,the photographs, stories of Weihsien and your liberation have been unfolding before my eyes ever since. Your new slide shows, with the little water colours and other information, just bring it all together beautifully.
I could go on about how interesting and educational your sites are but I'm sure all others who read this topica groupand view your sites will agree that you, Leopold and all those that have written books are to be congratulated for what you have achieved.
If I ever get to
Thanks again for making the story of Weihsien come to life and finally [for me anyway] putting faces to names.
Rod Miller
P.S. I never knew there had been escapees from Weihsien. In Rabaul the Japanese threatened to kill 10 men for every one that escaped.
P.P.S Nothing about the animations seemed to jerky down here. But I do run a very high end video card with a lot of on board memory.
If you would like some completely pedantic feed back it would seem to me that on the walk tour site some of the music may have been digitized at fractionally to higher level as it seems to be distorting ever so slightly at the top end.
De: "Tapol"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: google earth
Date: jeudi 3 mai 2007 11:48
Hello all,
I recently found out that you could insert your photos on Google Earth. It's very interesting and free :-)) There are some marvellous photographs from all over the world.
Click on this link: (for the few views I selected for Weihsien)
http://www.panoramio.com/user/422240
--- of course, you can add your personal pictures too --- and locate them very exactly on a map.
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "georgeanna knisely"
<jknisely@paonline.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Donald's must see slide
shows!!
Date: vendredi 4 mai 2007 17:14
I would love a CD if you can, then can have ready whenever. Great appreciation. Georgie Knisely,
De: <MTPrevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Norman Cliff
Date: mercredi 16 mai 2007 3:58
Sad news, Everyone. I've received the following e-mail, dated May 13, from Estelle Cliff
"Norman (Cliff) didn't wake up this morning, Sunday - except in Heaven. He was 82. Joyce took him a cup of tea and couldn't wake him. A terrible shock for her, but a wonderful way to go."
What a loss to all of us!
He
was a major contributor to a recently-published
book about teachers in the
Mary T. Previte
De: "Joyce Cook"
<bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Norman Cliff
Date: mercredi 16 mai 2007
10:51
Dear Mary. I am profoundly saddened by the sad news about Norman Cliff. I knew
him very well in camp. He was such a lovely man in every respect. He taught me
shorthand that helped me get my first job both in
De: "Leopold Pander"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Norman Cliff
Date: jeudi 17 mai 2007 0:10
I got to know many of you by the Internet
but visually very few --- I have a great friendship for
--- It's a sad day ---
Nicky and Leopold
De: "Leopold Pander"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Armored Angel
Date: jeudi 17 mai 2007 1:24
Hello all,
Found an interesting link on the Internet ----
http://www.b24bestweb.com/armoredangel.htm
---
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "Natasha Petersen"
<np57@cox.net>
À: "weihsien"
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: emails
Date: jeudi 17 mai 2007 3:06
I am so sorry that some of you are having trouble sending emails to Weihsien/Topica.
My deep condolences to the family of Norman Cliff. He shall be missed. May the kingdom of heaven be his.
Natasha
De: <MTPrevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Norman Cliff
Date: jeudi 17 mai 2007 4:53
Thank you so much, Natasha. Some of my messages to Topica register. Some do not. I'll keep trying.
You've given all us such a WONDERFU:L means of communicating.
Mary
From: David Birch
<gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Norman Cliff April 4, 1925 -
May 13, 2007
To: weihsien@topica.com
Thanks to Mary for passing on the sad news re Norman Cliff's death.
Norman Cliff was a true Christian gentleman
and a great "Old Chefusian!"
I well remember Norman Cliff, from Chefoo,
Temple Hill and Weihsien. At the end of the war, when I was a thirteen-year-old
boy,
A final observation I want to make of
One very well-meaning former Weihsiener had told me that Canadians did not qualify for this compensation for some technical historical reason. I explained that when I had learned this, I had withdrawn my application.
I believe there are many, many people around the world who will agree with me that Norman Cliff was truly a great Christian man!
Respectfully submitted
David
G. David Birch
De: "Dwight W. Whipple"
<thewhipples@comcast.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>;
<weihsien@topica.com>
Cc: "Natasha Petersen"
<np57@cox.net>
Objet: Re: Norman Cliff
Date: samedi 19 mai 2007 6:34
We, also, send our sympathy to the Cliff family. He was so gracious in sending me a copy of his book, signed as I requested. What a great contribution to our collective memories. A truly great loss.
~Dwight W. Whipple
--
De: "Ted Margrett" <yanshida@Yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Last Summer
Date: mercredi 23 mai 2007 4:18
Dear Friends,
It is indeed with great sadness to hear the news of Norman Cliff's death. However, like a bird in a cage who has been set free, his soul has winged its flight to join his Heavenly Father.
Last summer, while Mr. Cliff was in Yantai for a short visit, I had the
opportunity of intereviewing him in connection with my on-going research into
the history of Yantai. The interview, which was videod, took about two
hours. What struck me was his incredible
memory. I had lots of questions that
needed to be answered. I had details
that only he could clarify and substantiate.
Patiently and with the utmost courtesy, he set the record straight.
Later, along with a local reporter, a few local officials and historians I was
able to accompany him on a visit to the
dedicated to the Glory of God. Following lunch, hosted by local government officials, he headed back to his hotel for a rest. He had several appointments to keep later that afternoon followed by dinner and more appointments. As we approached his hotel, he said that what I was doing was wonderful. That day I had witnessed someone whose life in Chefoo had been re-lived in a short space of time, because our interview, conversations, and subsequent visits to various places had conjured up a myriad increadible memories for him. And for that I will always be grateful. It's one thing to read about history, but it's another to converse with a living breathing maker of history.
The following day, there was a full-page article, along with several photographs, written about Norman Cliff's visit to the city of his birth. I know from talking to several of my Chinese friends, Norman Cliff was a famous man, who was born in Chefoo - a great foreigner. To most of the population, who did not know him, he was a celebrity, but to those who knew him, he was the epitome of all that is good in a human being.
Best regards,
Ted Margrett
Yantai
De: "Dwight W. Whipple"
<thewhipples@comcast.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Last Summer
Date: mercredi 23 mai 2007 7:07
What a great event you describe in Yantai,
and what a wonderful thing for
~Dwight W. Whipple
De: "Ted Margrett" <yanshida@Yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Last Summer
Date: jeudi 24 mai 2007 2:05
Dear Mr. Dwight Wipple,
Thank you for your letter. I was very fortunate that Norman Cliff took
the time in what was a very busy schedule to spend time with me. Your having
been born in
Best Regards,
Ted
De: "lucy lu"
<lucy9859@hotmail.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Norman Cliff
Date: vendredi 25 mai 2007 2:56
Dear Ms. Cook,
Mr. Sui have told me about your email. I’ve been so busy with the work and something in my family. So sorry for my delay to respond you quickly. About the publish of your book in china, I’ve reopted to my boss, but she didn't tell me more. I think maybe she willn't think about it, if she would, maybe only a little amount just for the concerned people.
So don't worry about it, if we'll think about it again, I’ll contact you as soon as possible.
Best Regards.
Lucy
Weifang foreign and overseas Chinese affairs office
De: "lucy lu"
<lucy9859@hotmail.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Norman Cliff
Date: vendredi 25 mai 2007 3:08
We, from Weifang foreign affairs office, from Weifang city, are so sad to get this piece of news. I’d like to pay my great tribute to Mr. Norman Cliff.
In 2005, I’ve received him during his trip in Weifang city, from which I till now have a great impression. But it's a pity that he couldn't join us on the occasion to mark the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Weihsien concentration camp.
I’ve been planning to pay a visit to him
this June, because I'll with a government delegation go to
A great loss for all of us and the weihsien concentration camp.
Best wishes to Cliff's family.
lucy
De: "Shude Sui"
<suishude@sohu.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Norman Cliff's Last Visit to
Weifang
Date: vendredi 1 juin 2007 18:47
The loss of Norman Cliff is so heavy to us. He made a great contribution to the successful reunion of the 60th Anniversary of Weihsien Camp Liberation.
With my invitation, after his trip to
Yantai(Chefoo),
He provided us many historical information and told us many true stories of the Weihsien Camp and internees, which were so valuable and important for us to understand that part of history in exact.
He donated many books to the
Fortunately, during his stay in Weifang, he
was fully interviewed and pictured by reporters from Weifang TV. Videos and
pictures, as well as books and stories of Norman Cliff, are all exhibited in
Norman Cliff will always be remembered.
Sui Shude - Weifang
De: "David Birch"
<gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Norman Cliff's Last Visit to
Weifang
Date: samedi 2 juin 2007 1:20
Dear Friend, Shude Sui,
Thank you very much indeed for sharing this
important information with us. Although Norman Cliff was several years older
than I, we attended the
I think there are many of us, former prisoners, who also have a lot of respect for you Shude. I had the privilege of meeting you at the 60th anniversary of the liberation, in 2005.
Peace to you!
David Birch
De: "Joyce Cook"
<bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: test
Date: samedi 2 juin 2007 9:41
Hi Natasha, I got your message all right
here in Sydney Australia on the WeiHsien site. Nice to hear from you. We are
well here and hope you are too. Thanks
again for giving me the Weishien site in the first place at the re-union in
From:
Natasha Petersen
To:
weihsien
Sent:
Saturday, June 02, 2007 9:42 AM
Subject: test
This is a test email. I have been having a problem with getting my emails to Topica/Weihsien. I did get the email sent by David Birch. I have also written to Topica support.
Natasha
De:
<grannydavies@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: test
Date: samedi 2 juin 2007 20:40
Evidently no problem gettingfrom you. Did you know that Serge Chunehen died, ?
Got a pone call from his wife(in
We corresponded all these years, haven’t seen him since 1947.
De: "R. E. Stannard
Jr." <restannardjr@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Made in
Date: dimanche 3 juin 2007 7:20
Anyone on this WeiHsien list who is within
theater-traveling distance of
He has made extensive use of old film footage and interviews with Americans revisiting scenes of their childhoods.
Excerpts from his announcement are appended below.
Ted Stannard
===John Helde===============
When I set out to understand my American
father’s
I'm excited to announce that MADE IN CHINA will have its world premiere at the 2007 Seattle International Film Festival. Thanks to all who have helped along the way!
John
Made in
Sunday, June 10, 7:30 pm
Neptune Theatre
(206) 781-5755
2007
http://www.seattlefilm.org/festival/film/detail.aspx?id=23158&FID=32
Mailing list for news and updates ~ email info@trythisfilms.com
More info ~ www.trythisfilms.com
De: "Sui Shude - Weifang"
<suishude@sohu.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: NBC Olympics to Weihsien Camp
Date: dimanche 3 juin 2007 11:41
Quick News From Sui Shude - Weifang:
On May 27th 2007, I entertained two story-editors of NBC Olympics, the U.S.-Rights holder of the 2008 Beijing Olympics, and the two gentlemen visited the Weihsien Camp place with my guidance.
In contact letter to me, the NBC friends wrote:
"To prepare for next year's Olympic
program coverage, we want to learn more about the Scottish runner Eric Liddell,
who won the 400-metres at the 1924 Paris Olympics. For research purposes, two
people from NBC Olympics are going to Weifang to visit the places where Eric
Liddell spent the last part of his life. The two NBC gentlemen from the
So, if the story is selected, topics of Eric Liddell & Weihsien Camp will be put in programs for 2008 Beijing Olympics.
April and May 2007, 4 groups/families from
the
Sui Shude
Translation Dept.
Weifang Foreign & Overseas Chinese Affairs Office
De: <MTPrevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Weihsien liberator, Jim Hannon
Date: lundi 4 juin 2007 4:37
Jim Hannon, one of the six Americans who liberated Weihsien, has recently suffered two strokes and is being supported at home with Hospice care.
Jim was in good spirits this week when I spoke to him and his wife. He has regained full use of his speech. He has been in frail health for some time.
If you have a vivid memory of our euphoria, our adoration of all things American, and our giddy celebrations on liberation day -- and if you have a thank you, now would be a good time to drop Jim an "I remember" note.
His address is: James J. Hannon,
In late August, 1945, when
liberators Major Stanlrey Staiger,
Jim Moore, Tad Nagaki, Raymond Hanchulak, and Peter Orlich were reassigned to start an
Mary T. Previte
De: "David Birch"
<gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsien liberator, Jim
Hannon
Date: lundi 4 juin 2007 17:13
Thank you, Mary, for your faithfulness in keeping in close touch with our liberators. These men were true heroes to us when they dropped from the sky at the end of WWII to set us free from our captors in the concentration camp!
David
De:
<grannydavies@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Weihsien liberator, Jim
Hannon
Date: lundi 4 juin 2007 20:29
Appreciate your telling us about Jim Hannon, will drop him a thinking of you note of cheer Phyllis Davies
De: "Natasha
Petersen" <np57@cox.net>
À: "weihsien"
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: info?
Date: mercredi 20 juin 2007
1:43
Last message received was June 4th. Has anyone received any since then?
This is getting old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Natasha
De: "David Birch"
<gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: info?
Date: mercredi 20 juin 2007
10:21
Hi Natasha,
This message certainly came through with no problem. I haven't noticed any problems since that earlier difficulty in getting my messages transmitted.
Thank you for the wonderful service that you are providing all of us Weihsienites!
David
De: "lucy lu"
<lucy9859@hotmail.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: A Documentary on
Weihsien Camp
Date: vendredi 22 juin 2007 7:56
Weifang People’s Government
June 22, 2007
Dear Friends Related to Weihsien Internment Camp,
Entrusted by Weifang People’s Government, Shandong Film & TV Production
Center is making a 5-episode Documentary named “Weihsien Internment Camp”, to put that part of history and the special life of Weihsien internees on screen in complete, and to keep the film a valuable historical record for the people of Weifang and the whole world.
The documentary is mainly focused on true history and life stories of Weihsien internees. We need as much of the kind help and assistance from all Weihsiens internee and families. Now we are collecting bits and drops of your past memories of the special life in Weihsien. And the film production group is also planning an interview visit in August and September, 2007.
It would be highly appreciated if you can spare with us your life stories of the Weihsien internment, by email, and further more, agree the special interview from the film production group to you and your family.
E-mail Add for film production of “Weihsien Internment Camp”:
Contact People: Mr. Shude Sui and
De: "william jamieson" <bill.jamieson@talk21.com>
À:
<info@weihsien-paintings.org>
Objet: WIlliam & Mary Jamieson
Weihsien Camp, 1941 to 1945
Date: samedi 23 juin 2007 23:57
Hello,
I was aware that my Grand Parents were interned during the war but I only recently found out that the name of their camp was Weihsien. They were both there from 1941 until they were liberated by the Americans in 1945. My Grandfather was the mining engineer at the coal mine nearby and he worked with his friend and colleague Philippe Walravens, a Belgian national who was the mine manager.
My grandfather died soon after the war (about 1950) but my grandmother lived until 1969 and used to tell me stories of her time in Chine although never liked to say too much about her time in camp. She did however give me two water colour paintings from Chine and I was amazed and so pleased to see that the first water colour on your web site was painted (and signed) by my grandmother.
My father (also William Jamieson) is now 87 and when I rang him to tell him what I had discovered he was so proud. I have printed off a copy of the water colour and will give it to him as soon as I see him. I would love to receive any information about my grandparents if anyone remembers them or to find out if there are any more pictures which my grandmother painted.
Very best regards,
William. S. Jamieson
De: "Leopold Pander"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À: "william jamieson"
<bill.jamieson@talk21.com>
Cc:
<weihsien@topica.com>; "Mary Previte"
<mtprevite@aol.com>; "
Objet: Re: WIlliam & Mary Jamieson
Weihsien Camp, 1941 to 1945
Date: dimanche 24 juin 2007 17:10
Dear William,
Many thanks for your message. I don't know where to begin ----
In fact, I'm just a small link (from
In fact, most of us - children - have the
same "memory" problem. Our parents never said much about
Weihsien-concentration-camp and now that they are almost all gone it's difficult
to tell the difference between legend and history. I was lucky to find
"Topica" about 7 years ago when I purchased my computer and got
connected to the Internet. I was 4 years old in 1945 and suffer of a complete
black-out of what happened in Weihsien. Our "liberation-day" followed
me as a nightmare --- for many many years after. Even now, I have this
"vision" --- but I don't remember the rest. The extraordinary thing
is that I found Father Hanquet who is 92 years old now, lives 10 minutes away
from where I live in
The Walravens are friends of our family. My
father knew them well and - as a banker - did business with the mining
companies. The Walravens' made us visit Japan in 1951 - I remember that very
well - I was just 10 years old and we drove across the Japanese countryside in
a US military jeep with Monique Walravens (at the wheel) and my sister Janette.
The parents and Mr and Mrs Walravens were following us in the official car of
the Belgian embassy ---. Monique lives in
---
Best regards --- and hope to read you soon ---
Leopold Pander
>>From:
Donald Menzi <dmenzi@earthlink.net>
>>Reply-To:
weihsien@topica.com
>>To:
bill.jamieson@talk21.com
>>CC: weihsien
<weihsien@topica.com>
>>Subject: A Weihsien Bibliography
>>Date: Sun,
24 Jun 2007 12:39:21 -0700 (GMT-07
>>
>>
>>Bill,
>>
>>Welcome aboard!
>>
>>Hopefully Leopold's response will lead you to explore his fabulous Weihsien web site at your liesure. I've copied a somewhat dated bibliography about Weihsien below, though I'm sure you could find the same thing on the "official" Weihsien site. Many, if not most, of the books listed can be obtained through on-line used book dealers such as http://www.abe.com , http://www.alibris.com , http://www.powells.com or http://www.bibliofind.com , not to mention http://www.amazon.com .
>Those with an asterisk were written by participants in the weihsien@topica.com group, who would be happy to sell you a copy directly, I'm sure.
>>
>>You can also view a "video" slide show "walking tour" of the Weihsien compound that includes some of your grandmother's paintings, and can download an excellent short summary of life at Weihsien written by Howard Galt, by going directly to www.menzi.org, a "family" web site that I set up to distribute material by and about my own grandparents, who were also Weihsien internees. The "walking tour" will show you precisely where in the camp your grandmother was standing when did the paintings that it includes.
>>
>>The site also includes a photo-essay of the 60th anniversary celebration of Weihsien's liberation, which includes views of Weihsien buildings that are still there today.
>>
>>Once again, welcome!
>>
>>Donald Menzi
>>A Weihsien
Bibliography
>>
>>*Bradbury, Joyce, Forgiven but not Forgotten: Memoirs of a Teenage Girl
>Prisoner of the Japanese in
>>
>>Cliff,
>
>>
>>De Jaegher, Raymond, and Kuhn,
Irene, The Enemy Within,
>Publications, Bandra,
>>
>>Gilkey, Langdon,
>Pressure, Harper & Row,
>>
>>*Masters, Pamela, The Mushroom Years ��?A Story of Survival, Henderson
>House,
>>
>>Michel, David, A Boy���s War, Overseas
Missionary Fellowship,
>1988.
>>
>>*
>in the Orient, Ballantine Books, Random
House,
>>
>>Power, Desmond, Little Foreign
Devil, Pangli Imprint,
>
>>
>>Scanlan, Patrick J., Stars in the
Sky, Trappist Publications,
>1984.
>>
>>Tipton, Laurance, Chinese Escapade, Macmillan & Co. ,
>>
>>
>>
De: <MTPrevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: A Weihsien
Bibliography
Date: dimanche 24 juin 2007
23:03
Donald:
Several other books include fascinating chapters or sections that describe life in Weihsien:
A
Cross in
Under His Wings -- The Story of
a
Payseur, OMS International
Hungry Ghosts by Mary Taylor Previte, Zondervan Publishers (The chapter on Weihsien has also been translated into Chinese by Moses Chu and published in an English/Chinese edition called"Song of Salvation at Weihsien Prison Camp." The whole chaptwer is available on the Weihsien web site.
God Can Be Trusted by Elizabeh Hoyte Goldsmith, STL Books, Kingsway
Publications,
Franciscans in Shantung, China, 1929-1948 by Sister M. Julian Alderson,
O.S.F,
De: <MTPrevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: The miracle of clothing that
didn't wear out
Date: dimanche 24 juin 2007 23:08
Today's Sunday School lesson from the book of EXODUS and the Children of Israel's wandering for 40 years in the wilderness reminded me of a lesson our Chefoo teachers taught us in Weihsien:
If God could create a miracle that the clothes of the Children of Israel didn't wear out for 40 years of wandering in the wilderness, then God could surely see that our clothes didn't wear out either.
Does anyone else remember this sermon that
compared Weihsien and the Exodus from
Mary Previte
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald Menzi
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: The miracle of clothing that
didn't wear out
Mary,
So tell us! Did your clothes not wear out?
Donald
De: "georgeanna knisely"
<jknisely@paonline.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: The miracle of clothing that
didn't wear out
Date: lundi 25 juin 2007 0:05
Wopw!
Can we have the sermon comparing Weihsien and the chilrden of
De: <MTPrevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: The miracle of clothing that
didn't wear out
Date: lundi 25 juin 2007 5:53
Weihsien was full of miracles.
Some of the children had grown more than a
foot since our parents first sent us
off to the
Clothes and shoes for us little ones was easy. We grew into hand-me-downs.
We patched then patched the patches. But clothing for the older boys posed a serious problem. It was the winter of 1944-'45. They were facing the third winter of the war -- with no winter trousers -- until Mrs. Lack, one of our teachers, had her dream. In the dream, she was going from mattress to mattress looking for dark blankets that could be made into winter slacks.
Blankets for trousers. Of course! Why hadn't she thought of it before?
In the dinner queue -- where hunger heightened contenteousness -- the skeptics started in on Mrs. Lack.
"Trousers of ouf blankets?"
"Blankets, my dear, aren't made of woven fabric. The seats will be out the first time the boys sit down."
How could they understand that if God had told Mrs. Lack to make trouswers out of blankets, He would make His business to keep the seats in?
But just then, a kindly old stranger interrupted. "I used to be a tailor in
By early December when the thermometer dipped to 17 degrees, the trousers -- hand tailored -- were ready. Temperatures reached 3 below zero that winter. At the end of April, when the last snows were melting, the first boy came to Mrs. Lack.
"May I wear my khaki shorts now?" he asked.
"It's a bit cold now, isn't it?"
"But the seat is splitting in my trousers," he said with an uncomfortable blush.
After five winter months, the first seat had given way.
Mary Previte
De: "Gay Talbot Stratford"
<stillbrk@eagle.ca>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: WIlliam & Mary Jamieson
Weihsien Camp, 1941 to 1945
Date: lundi 25 juin 2007 18:02
Dear William,
Welcome to the group.
I am wondering if your grandparents lived
and worked in Linsi as my parents (the Talbots), If so, we knew them well. Of
course we saw them in camp as well, and after the war I spent some time with
Mary in
My
father, Sid, died in 1947,and if my memory serves me rightly, Bill had left
Linsi for the
My mother, Ida, died a number of years ago
ending her days in
Best wishes to you and your family,
Gay Talbot Stratford
De: "lucy lu"
<lucy9859@hotmail.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: A Weihsien
Bibliography
Date: mardi 26 juin 2007 5:10
Hello, Donald Menzi
I'm so intersted in your family website, but it's a pity that I can't log in. so how can i know about the things on that website?
best wishes
lucy
De: <MTPrevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: The miracle of clothes that didn't wear out
Date: mardi 26 juin 2007 15:55
Dear Mary
Yes I vaguely remember it. I remember thinking afterwards that I didn't grow out of my shoes, or wear them out. Of course we kept them for the bitter winters. I have been hearing recently from other internees how their feet were deformed because they had no other shoes, and had to force them on.
When we first went to Weihsien, 1, we were told never to walk barefoot, because there was tetanus in the ground from the Japanes army horses, and 2, they gave us Japanese wooden clogs to wear. We couldn't wear them, and made ourselves sandals from plaited rags, but in the latter years we just went barefoot. I remember walking to Kitchen One in the rain, and squelching through the mud, and there were tiny frogs in it. Do you remember 'the plague of frogs'?
Love
Estelle Cliff Horne
I don't recall the frogs, Estelle, but I remember going barefoot in the summer and almost burning our feet on the ground that was baking hot in the summer sun.
And I remember so well September 11, 1945
-- a rainy day in
We
had been flown out of Weihsien to Si-An the day before. We four
Mary
De: "Donald Menzi"
<dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: A Weihsien
Bibliography
Date: mardi 26 juin 2007 17:51
Dear Lucy,
If www.menzi.org doesn't work, try the following:
http://reced.org/dmenzi/wilders/
If that doesn't work, try going to the "Links" page on Leopold Pander's site
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/links/indexFrame.htm
and click on "The Wilder-Stanley Saga"
If none of that works, it means that the site is being blocked for some reason. I will make you a CD that contains all of the material that is on it and send it to you that way.
Let me know what happens.
Donald
----- Original
Message -----
From:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
To:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday,
July 25, 2007 12:48 PM
Subject: Fw: Reply to your post
> Hello All,
> On my quest to find out more about the B-24 that flew over Weihsien on August 17, 1945 I got this reply-message from the B-24 web-board. The link: http://www.rshonor.org will interest many of you --- I think.
> Best regards,
> Leopold
>
> -----
Original Message -----
> From:
<webmaster@mach3ww.com>
> To:
<tapol@skynet.be>
> Sent:
Wednesday, July 25, 2007 9:17 AM
> Subject: Reply to your post
>
>
>> Anonymous replied to your post 'searching for information about ARMORED
>> ANGEL' at the site: B-24 Web Board. The Url of this forum is
>> http://b24.mach3ww.com/cgi/freethreads/freethreads.pl . The reply was:
>>
>> Leopold, Not sure if you still need this, but www.rshonor.org has many
>> B-24 photographs, although not all are indexed yet. Hope it might help.
>>
>> Best,
>> Patrick Lucas
>>
>
De: "Donald
Menzi" <dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>; <weihsien@topica.com>; "natasha
petersen" <np57@cox.net>
Objet: Re: Fw: Reply to your post
Date: jeudi 26
juillet 2007 20:42
Leopold,
I can probably tell you where the plane was
built -
Donald
De:
<MTPrevite@aol.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: "Ada"
Foxlee or Ada Tomky
Date: jeudi 26
juillet 2007 23:33
Hello, Everybody,
Who remembers Ada Foxlee or Ada Tomky from
Today, I received the attached e-mail
letter. I'm sure we have Weihsieners from
Mary Previte
Please pardon my direct correspondence,
but the last 24 hours have been amazing
for my wife, Susan. Last weekend, Susan discovered an archive left by her
adoptive parents, who were American workers living in
Susan was adopted at age 9 months from an
orphanage in
During the internet search, we also found your marvelous presentation at the 60th anniversary of the liberation, and it was so moving - remember, that until yesterday Susan had no idea about the link to the camp. Finding the list of internees, led us to learn that her birth mother spent time with many missionary teachers, including ones of note such as your father and Eric Liddell, and thus may have had an opportunty to hear the Gospel and respond during that time. What a wonderful hope!
In my feeble attempts to follow leads using the internet today, I found your e-mail address listed among communications from folks who seem to write with knowledge of Weihsien. We haven't figured out how to join the communication group yet, and so please excuse my contact at your e-mail address.
By any chance, as an incredible blessing, do you have any leads on how Susan could learn more about her mother, Ada Foxlee, or her aunt, Nina Mary Foxlee.
Thanks, so much.
Tom Ulrich
202-502-1557
De: "Fred
& Coral Dreggs" <adreggs@bigpond.net.au>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re:
Date: samedi 28
juillet 2007 21:03
Dear Joyce,
I would like to attend the meeting with
Lucy Lu when she comes to
In due course please let me know when you have a firm date and the location of the meeting.
My wife Coral will be joining me.
Kind regards
Alfie
----- Original Message -----
From: Joyce Cook
To: weihsien@topica.com
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 11:40 AM
Dear WeiHsieners. As you may know Lucy Lu and her colleagues from Weifang are preparing a documentary on the WeiHsien Civilian Assembly Centre and she has informed me that in the next six months or so she will be visiting me in Sydney, Australia to obtain information about the Camp and quote, "To make our visit more efficient we wish to meet more people, would you like to have more people get together and involved in our interview" She also mentionerd "or their relatives" to collect information in preparation for the documentary. In order to determine how many persons would be available could you indicate whether you would participate. Regards Joyce Bradbury.
De: "Pamela
Masters" <pamela@hendersonhouse.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: "
Date: dimanche 29
juillet 2007 0:47
Dear Friends --
At first I wasn't going to reply to this message, but after reading it through carefully I found it full of strange suppositions.
Ada Foxlee, a friend of mine, was British.
Her father was the headmaster at the
As I attended
Pamela Masters
De: "Donald
Menzi" <dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: A Weihsien Bibliography
Date: dimanche 29
juillet 2007 1:55
Hello, Lucy,
I have fixed the web site so that the videos actually run now. If you go to www.menzi.org , click on "Weihsien" then click on the "Walking Tour" link, you we be able to view the video "tour" of Weihsien, with background music that starts after the introductory frames.
Let me know when you have tried it and tell me if it works for you.
Best wishes.
Donald.
De: "Joyce
Cook" <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re:
"Ada" Foxlee or Ada Tomky
Date: dimanche 29
juillet 2007 9:56
I remember Ada Foxlee well. I think she was
my age. I was born in 1928. Very quiet and rather shy.She was a lovely person
and had a boy friend whose name I cannot remember. I was not a personal friend
of hers but we smiled and greeted each when our paths crossed. I was from
Tsingtao and she was from
De: "Marjorie
Bull" <m.bull@sympatico.ca>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: "
Date: mercredi 1
août 2007 6:51
Our family Iived in
In
Chefoo we went to the
Maejorie McLorn (now Bull)
----- Original Message
-----
From: Fred &
Coral Dreggs
Sent: Wednesday,
August 01, 2007 9:40 AM
Subject: "
I was very well acquainted with
In
my last year in school I was extremely keen on mathematics. Mr. Foxlee spent a
great deal of time with me after school and taught me higher mathematics beyond
the then current curriculum. I also visited Mr. And Mrs. Foxlee at their home
in
(Before we left
There are 2 important matters that Susan may not be aware of but they may be of great interest to her:
Firstly, her grandmother, Nina Arvidovna
Foxlee was a Russian lady which would make
Secondly, it seems Susan does not know who may be her biological father. I will now digress slightly.
In
We now know from her husband Tom Ulrich
that Susan was born on 17/4/46 which, by my calculation, would seem that she
conceived around 1 month before liberation. .
Therefore, her father had to be an internee. I am aware who that person
was but I do not wish to divulge that name via the Topica site. Mary, if you
think it is appropriate to take this further, I am prepared to write to your
private email address when you can judge how my knowledge was gained. Please
let me know as I am in two minds as to what to do given that
Sincerely,
Alfie (aka Fred) Dreggs
De:
<MTPrevite@aol.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: August 17, 1945
Date: lundi 6
août 2007 2:32
Hello, Everybody:
Liberation Day is approaching with another opportunity to thank the heroes who liberated us from Weihsien.
Only two of those American liberators are still alive. If you'd like to drop them a note of appreciation, here are their addresses. Tell them your memories of that glorious day. They tell me they keep these letters and cards in boxes to enjoy over and over again.
James J. Hannon,
Tad Nagaki,
Mary Previte
De:
<MTPrevite@aol.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Where were you when the American
liberators came?
Date: lundi 6
août 2007 2:56
Hello, Everybody,
Let's celebrate Liberation Day, August 17, 1945, with memories: Where were you and what were you doing when the American liberators parachuted from the Armored Angel to liberate Weihsien?
I'll collect your memories and forward them to our liberators or to their widows.
Mary Previte
De:
<MTPrevite@aol.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: re 1945
leaflet
Date: lundi 6
août 2007 3:15
Eddie:
Can you find someone to scan the leaflet for everyone to see on our Weihsien Topica network?
Mary Previte
De:
"georgeanna knisely" <jknisely@paonline.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Where were you when the
American liberators came?
Date: lundi 6
août 2007 4:45
August 17 was my best friend in camp's
birthday, Wies de Jongh. And we were
grinding peanuts, making peanut butter in their front yard. The plane came over low and then lower and
we saw the
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: re 1945
leaflet
Date: lundi 6
août 2007 8:27
Hello,
the leaflet is in
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/NormanCliff/escape/p-AlliedPrisonners.htm
(and click again on the picture to see the other leaflet --- the one that came in English on one side and Dutch on the other side ---)
--- if that doesn't work, click on the attachment coming with this message ---
My thoughts will be with us all --- on the
17th --- Thank you
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "Gay
Talbot Stratford" <stillbrk@eagle.ca>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Where were you when the
American liberators came?
Date: mardi 7
août 2007 21:03
georgie
I remember precisely the same scene. Being with Wies and looking at her birthday presents, when the planes flew low that day. Thankyou for the reminder.So glad that your life has been blessed. Please tell Wies that I do intend to write. May God continue his care of you.
In friendship,
Gay Talbot
De:
<MTPrevite@aol.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Sui Shude
Date: mercredi 8
août 2007 2:40
News has reached me that Sui Shude has suffered a heart attack. Mr. Sui was host and interpreter for our magnificent 2005 60th anniversary celebration in Weifang.
Mary Previte
De: "Mary
Broughton" <maryhbroughton@swissmail.org>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: August 17,
1945
Date: mercredi 8
août 2007 11:05
My memory is of being in class. Hearing the plane, so different to the sound of the rare Japanese plane that flew over. We all rushed outside looking up. As it circled we ran in circles under it. Then it started to climb higher, thinking it was going away we stopped and wailed, only to find to our joy there were soon parachutes gently floating down with men attached. So we rushed to the gate and carried on through for the first time ever. I confess I didnt go very far as there were so many prickles attacking my bare feet. I was certainly part of the reception back at the gateway. Then we followed with the crowd to stand outside the Headquarters building where Major Steiger spoke to us all. It wasnt long before we learnt 'You are my sunshine' and every morning at 6am they played over loud speakers 'Oh what a beautiful morning, Oh what a wonderful day' regardless of the weather.
Mary (Hoyte) Broughton
De: "Joyce
Cook" <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Date: vendredi 10
août 2007 3:01
To Sui Shude. On behalf of my family and me I wish you a successful operation and speedy recovery. We will never forget your kindness and hospitality during our visit at the Re-Union. Joyce. George, Tom, Bill and Danielle Bradbury.
De:
<MTPrevite@aol.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Memories of August 17, 1945 from
Ted Pearson,
Date: vendredi 10
août 2007 19:03
I remember seeing the B-24 fly over and the crates and drums falling from the bombays and the 'chutes never opening. Then I remember the 7 jumped from the B-24. The parachutes came down so evenly spaced. They were like steps in a staircase. Somehow everyone ran out of the gates. Being small and fast
– 10 years old -- I was way ahead of everyone. I was barefoot and wore shorts. I ran to the nearest parachute that I saw land and came upon this man in uniform who had his glasses taped to his temples. He was already disconnected from his 'chute when I arrived. We were in a field of stubble – maybe gaoliang. Anyhow, he pointed to some Chinese writing which was printed on his uniform.
I said to him ''I'm sorry, Sir, I don't know how to read Chinese''.
He was amazed. ''You speak English?''
''I'm from the camp, Sir”, I said. “We burst the gates''.
Then the adults showed up, and I was pushed aside.
Ted
----- Original Message
-----
From: Donald
Menzi
To: weihsien@topica.com ; weihsien@topica.com
Sent: Friday,
August 10, 2007 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: Memories of August 17, 1945
from Ted Pearson,
Ted and all,
it's wonderful
to read these memories of that day from those of you who were there. Even
though I wasn't, it still almost brings tears to my eyes picturing it
from your vivid descriptions.
Donald
De: "Dwight
W. Whipple" <thewhipples@comcast.net>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Memories of August 17, 1945
from Ted Pearson,
Date: samedi 11
août 2007 1:16
Same for me. We were repatriated in September 1943 but I still remember where I was when the Asian war was over in August 1945. As a kid, I often wished that we could have stayed "until the end" rather than leaving mid-war. But the choice wasn't ours.
~Dwight
4728A
360.456.4300
thewhipples@comcast.net
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: Photo of delirious prisoners
welcoming American liberators
Date: samedi 11
août 2007 8:50
Yes! of course --- :-)
This famous picture is in
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/NormanCliff/liberationDay/p-liberation.htm
--- it is really thanks to
Best regards,
Leopold
----- Original
Message -----
From:
MTPrevite@aol.com
To:
tapol@skynet.be
Sent: Saturday,
August 11, 2007 1:39 AM
Subject: Photo of delirious prisoners
welcoming American liberators
Leopold,
Is there some way to make easily accessible on your web site this week the amazing photo of the tumultuous crowd welcoming the Americasn heroes into Weihsien?
Can you tell folks how to find it?
Mary
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Where were you when the
American liberators came?
Date: samedi 11
août 2007 17:34
I remember that it was a bright day --- it must have been a cloudless blue sky over Weihsien. I was 4-years old wandering all alone on a grassless slope of dirty brown soil. I was next to a big rock --- as big as I was. I felt lost – completely lost. Grown-ups running all over the place. In my memory, I remember that all was silent --- very silent. Somebody picks me up --- .
--- And then I wake up in the middle of the night.
I had this dream for many – many years and finally found out that it was the day that the Americans liberated us on 17th August 1945.
――
I don’t have that nightmare anymore but the image is indelibly printed in my neurones. Two years ago, when we visited Weifang and the old Weihsien hospital I think I recognized the brown earth slope going downwards towards the river. Alone and with my digital camera I started walking upstream towards what had been the Weihsien main gate and walls beyond the compound. I think that it is there that I was lost – 62 years ago. I was then politely and firmly invited to rejoin our group of visitors waiting near the hospital grounds.
Once again, I woke up ――――
Leopold
De: "Alison
Holmes" <aholmes@prescott.edu>
À:
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Objet: RE: Where were you when the
American liberators came?
Date: samedi 11
août 2007 20:52
How lovely to read your message,
Leopold! We have all written our
memories (probably more than once) over the lifetime of the website but I think
this is the first time I have heard yours, and love the way it speaks to what gets
written on our nerve endings, in our souls, in our subconscious. Those early happenings reverberate through
our lives at all sorts of levels. Our visit
to Weihsien was interesting, delighted recognition and exploration, until the
moment we were standing in the middle school (the site of Block 23) looking out
of the office window and seeing home. It
was actually not block 15 which had been pulled down, but the block behind it,
but instantly my sister and I were in tears, shaking with having been
transported back in time, seeing the castor oil plants that Ma (Heather Martin)
had planted outside the door, seeing through our tears the bright blue of the
morning glories, seeing the little outdoor stove. And yes, we too stood on the field and looked
up into the sky and re-peopled it with tiny figures dangling below great colourful
parachutes. We are made up of memories that we recreate in dreams, in visions,
in work, and I'm sure that given such richness of experience we are furnished
with material that once we recognize it, once we wake up to it at different
levels, once we understand it, it and we are able to become part of a larger
world. I, too, have had my
Alison
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Objet: Fwd: Susan is talking with Nina
Foxlee Baird as I type this ...
Date: dimanche 12
août 2007 23:17
Thank you to so many of you who have helped with this miracle.
Mary Previte
----- Original Message
-----
From: Thomas_Ulrich@ao.uscourts.gov
Sent: Friday,
August 10, 2007 5:46 PM
Subject: Susan is talking with Nina Foxlee
Baird as I type this ...
Dear friends ...
It has been an incredible two weeks! As I type this, Susan is on the
phone with
Everyone's information has been encouraging and useful ... you may be
interested that the pivotal piece that has led to us finding Nina was something
only God could do. Desmond Power (who has been particularly helpful with
research) sent me an e-mail this morning, saying that yesterday (yes - 1 day
ago) he got a card from an old friend thanking him for some books he had sent
her, that included a PS saying "I was delighted to get in touch with ...
Nina Foxlee." With Desmond's help and via the internet, I found a
telephone number and called Nina about an hour ago.
This is only a beginning! We are eager to learn more and more, and we
thank everyone and look forward to meeting you Weihsien folks online and,
perhaps, in person.
Blessings to all!
Tom and Susan Ulrich
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Objet: from
Date: lundi 13
août 2007 5:53
Has anyone ever heard of this?
Did Eric Liddell turn down freedom to help another prisoner-of-war?
_DOUG GILLON, Athletics Correspondent_ (mailto:doug.gillon@theherald.co.uk)
August 11 2007
It was a typically selfless act. Eric
Liddell, the iconic Scottish Olympic athletics champion, turned down an offer
of liberation by Winston Churchill from a wartime internment camp in
Simon Clegg, chief executive of the British
Olympic Association, and elite performance director Sir Clive Woodward were laying
a wreath on Liddell's grave in Weifang when they were told about the move by
Chinese officials. Weifang, in
The pair are in
Mr Clegg said: "We had lunch with the vice-mayor of Weifang and some of her colleagues. I was told by a senior official that Eric was given the opportunity of being exchanged while he was still alive, and he turned it down in favour of someone else.
"If that's the case, it's entirely in keeping with the way he led the rest of his life. Talk about a role model - someone who had achieved so much in the sporting environment and then effectively to walk away from that, not for any personal advancement, but to devote his life to working with other people.
He really is an inspiration to us all.
"What was said related to Winston Churchill arranging a prisoner swap, but Eric let somebody else go in his place. It would be hard to substantiate the details now, but the Chinese are not known for elaborating in this way."
Liddell died of a brain tumour in February
1945, just months before liberation. His grave was marked with a plain wooden
cross, his name written in boot polish. However, on the 60th anniversary of the
internment camp a memorial park was built, and in 1991 a one-ton block of
Liddell's grave.
"It's in a quiet and very dignified setting of a courtyard," added Mr Clegg.
"We laid a wreath of brightly-coloured local flowers there, on behalf of the BOA and athletes past, present, and future. I hadn’t realised just what an outstanding human being he was
"Torrential rain fell before and after the ceremony, but there was a glorious break in the weather when we were at the memorial. There is still an old missionary building, which during internment had a hospital on the second floor, offices on the ground floor, and accommodation units on the third. It's in the courtyard of this building that the memorial stands.
"There's also a small museum to the internment camp. Liddell does feature, both in terms of his athletics prowess and contribution to the camp and society. There's a log book with his name, Liddell, EH, and a reference to where he was accommodated in the camp.
"The people of Weifang have done a fantastic job in terms of keeping his spirit alive today. I hadn't realised just what an outstanding human being he was. It was quite emotional being there."
The Chinese are making a documentary about
the internment camp, and have interviewed survivors as old as 103. This will
also feature Liddell, because of the role he played in the camp, and they are
coming to the
Numerous biographies of Liddell have made no mention of a prisoner exchange.
His late sister, Jenny Somerville, never
spoke of it, nor did his daughter, Patricia, who accepted Liddell's induction
to the Scottish Athletics Hall of Fame two years ago. An attempt to contact her
at her home in
Bob Rendall, chief executive of the Eric
Liddell Centre in
Two other films are currently being made. Caithness-based screenwriter Murray Watts has collaborated in one of these, being made by Toronto-based Windborne Productions.
"Funding is still being put in place, but we look like going into pre-production at the end of next month with Bruce Beresford as director," said a spokeswoman.
Beresford won four Oscars with Driving Miss Daisy. David Puttnam's Chariots of Fire, which featured Liddell's life as an athlete, won five.
A life more worthy of a film than Chariots of Fire
THE life Eric Liddell had after the
Chariots of Fire era may prove more worthy of a film than the athletic
achievements which Ian Charleson famously portrayed. Liddell, who gained seven
rugby caps on the wing for
He risked his life, smuggling money for church work, hidden in bread, or tending typhoid victims.
A man whose execution the Japanese had bungled lay dying in a derelict temple. Fearing reprisals, nobody would go to him, until Liddell rescued him on a handcart.
Another man was cleft from the back of his head to his mouth, and left for dead. Liddell ferried both 18 miles to a hospital. Both recovered.
Many Britons were interned when the
Sino-Japanese war erupted, Liddell among them. He had sent his pregnant wife to
Inmates of the camp included the elderly, children separated from their parents, a touring jazz band, and a white Russian prostitute.
The Edinburgh University BSc wrote a chemistry book for the camp children, inscribing the cover: "The bones of Inorganic Chemistry. (Can these dry bones live?)"
One lad, David Mitchell, became a minister, and wrote a book on his childhood. He recalled Liddell mixing glue from fish bladders and scales, mending hockey sticks, and doing so by night, to spare inmates the smell.
The man who had declined on Sabbatarian grounds to run the 100m at the Olympics, refereed youngsters' football on Sundays. He mixed coal dust with clay to make crude briquettes for the elderly, and when the prostitute was ostracised by other women, he rigged a shelf for her. She said he was the only man to do her a favour without seeking other favours in return.
When he died on February 16, 1945, the camp
was devastated. He had seemed invincible. The kids whom he had walked with earlier
were the cord bearers at his burial in the snow of north
© All rights reserved. Reproduction in whole or in part without _permission_
(mailto:rights@glasgow.newsquest.co.uk) is prohibited.
De: "Ron
Bridge" <rwbridge@freeuk.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: from
Date: mardi 14
août 2007 19:31
I think that I can shed some light on this.
1. Eric Liddell is listed as not having ever applied for evacuation in the Swiss Consular records for Weihsien Camp.
2. When the second evacuation was being
planned for US and Canadians in September 1943 there was also correspondence
regarding doing an exchnage for UK British but it was abandoned when it was
found that there were insufficient Japanese living in
3 However Eric Liddell's wife Flo had not gone back to Tientsin after their 1940 home leave which ahd begun in Scotland and went to live in Toronto with their children and as Eric Liddell's next of kin had a Canadian Address he would have briefly been listed as Canadian and hence eligible for exchange evacuation. His passport was definitely British ( issue by Brfitish Consulate Teitnsin in January 1937) thus I am of the considered opinion from the research that I have done that the fact that he was consdiered for exchange was based on incomplete knowledge of the facts above rumour and surmise.
Rgds
Ron Bridge
De: "rod
miller" <rmmiller@optusnet.com.au>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: New book in
Date: mercredi 15
août 2007 19:57
A new book has been published about Australian civilians interned by the Japanese.
I haven't read it as yet but it got some publicity on the Australian Broadcasting Corporation network tonight.
It may be of interest to some of you.
They have made the interview with the author available on its web site.
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2007/s2004645.htm
Regards
Rod
De: "Albert de
Zutter" <albertarthur@sbcglobal.net>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: from
Date: jeudi 16
août 2007 7:42
Ron,
Thank you for your factual input.
The original email was headed "Has anyone ever heard of this?" And my answer is "No." If anything like this ever happened the whole camp would have known about it. Obviously the story was not well researched, as it states that Weifang "was used to intern many foreign and Chinese prisoners." While there were people of Chinese descent in the camp, there were no Chinese prisoners per se in the camp.
This is a typical instance of trying to add to the legend of Eric Liddell. I almost fell out of my chair when I read "It would be hard to substantiate the details now, but the Chinese are not known for elaborating in this way."
The Chinese have refurbished Eric Liddell's tomb (?)/ monument, made a movie, etc., precisely because of the upcoming Olympics. It is public relations for them. So it would be hard not only to substantiate the "details," but the substance appears to be made of whole cloth. The story's testimonial to Chinese veracity is based on wishful thinking.
The legend of Eric Liddell needs NO elaboration from Chinese publicists.
Albert de Zutter
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: from
Date: jeudi 16
août 2007 11:03
Five years already that I am busy adding historical facts, documents, paintings, sketches, books, etc ... to the Weihsien Paintings Web Site --- I could not - not answer to Mary's mail about this story --- legend -
I did write an answer but hesitated to send it on "Topica" --- I thought that I was not very diplomatic ---
Well, here is the text:
---
This article written by Doug Gillon ―――. "They" are building a legend around the person of Eric Liddell ---
I doubt that Mr. W. Churchill, in those difficult days, had time to arrange for the repatriation of a Scottish missionary prisoner of the Japs, even if he be a famous Olympic runner. I would like to see the official documents justifying that.
The article mentions: "and in 1991 a
one-ton block of
Eric's grave is elsewhere.
Exactly at the same place where he was
buried in 1945 which is plot 59 as mentioned on the map
In conclusion I'd like to say that "History" is slowly becoming "Legend" and even if it is for the benefit of the 2008 Olympic Games it is unfair not to tell the truth.
---
Best regards,
Leopold
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Objet: Barbara
"Dickie" Cameron
Date: jeudi 16
août 2007 17:24
Does anyone know how to connect with Barbara
"Dickie" Cameron, one of the
Mary Previte
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Objet: Eileen Bazire's memory of
Liberation Day
Date: jeudi 16
août 2007 23:53
From Peter Bazire,
Late in her life my mother wrote an account of her life for her
grand-daughter, and the 17-08-1945 story comes from this account.
"One morning in August 1945 there was suddenly an air of excitement in the camp.
'Quick, come outside', called an internee, 'people are all getting together and looking at something'.
Sure enough the sound of a plane became louder as it neared the camp!
Everyone had by now stopped work and was looking at the sky.To our wonder and joy a man parachuted down followed by six others, landing near the front gate. I shall never forget that moment. The thrill of knowing that the war was over, the knowledge that we were no longer prisoners, the thought of reunion with our loved ones, the sudden excitement was almost too much for some of us. I had an indescribable feeling in the pit of my stomach, never before or since experienced.
We all rushed out through the main gate, watched by a gaping guard to greet the airmen. One of them had been a prefect at Chefoo and was recognised at once by staff and former school mates.
Other planes dropped leaflets and tinned foods which many of us were unable to take; even fruit juice was too rich for me as we never had any fruit in camp rations. Delicious food was now served in the kitchens, but I begged to be allowed to eat in the diet kitchen where the fare was much the same as usual.
Services of thanksgiving were held in the church, full of praise and thanksgiving and joy."
--
Eileen Bazire,
On on Liberation Day, Mrs. Bazire was age 43. A teacher at the Chefoo
Schools, she was an artist and musician, responsible for creating posters announcing cultural events in Weihsien, transcribing music, and for scheduling piano practice for those who wished to practice the piano. Many of her drawings, water colors, and posters are now displayed in the Weihsien Exhibit building.
De: "Anthony
Hamins" <anthony.hamins@nist.gov>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Where were you when the American
liberators came?
Date: vendredi 17
août 2007 0:19
As I recall... It was August 16. Our dear friend Arthur Wright, a scholar of Asian culture, noticed that the Japanese guards were at attention listening to the Commandant, in a posture that indicated to him that an imperial decree was being read. Arthur suspected that something very important was happenning. So, the four of us, Arthur, his wife Mary (a scholar in her own right), my husband Boris, and I, decided to see if the Swiss Counsel was going to arrive - a possible scenario if the War was over. We grabbed chairs and decided to sit at the Heavenly Gate awaiting news. We were there for hours, until late afternoon. We decided to celebrate the end of the War and our liberation that evening.
I went to cook dinner for the four of us. To garnish the contents of a can of salmon, I decided to make mayonaise. During this rather laborious process, I heard the annoucement that we were to gather on the field as the Commandant had an annoucement. As I didn't want to ruin the mayonaise, I stayed in my compound while everyone gathered in the field. My husband reported that the Commandant said, "there are rumors that the War is over. I will neither confirm nor deny it." And did we celebrate that night!
The next day, while cleaning our room, my husband suddenly rushed in and said that an American plane was flying overhead. I didn't want to interupt my task, but my husband started screaming that parachutists were dropping, so I ran with the rest of the crowd to the gate, which was open - so we ran to the field towards the Americans. One of them,
Judith Hamins
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
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Objet: Fw: liberation day
Date: vendredi 17
août 2007 1:06
Dear all,
Peter Bazire just sent me a few pages of his diary-book to go on the Weihsien-paintings-web-site. Here it is "en avant première" ---
This IS history ---
Peter was 14 years old in 1945,
Best regards,
Leopold
PS two pages missing because message too big (<100Kb)
---
Wednesday, August 15th
During the afternoon and evening rumours were going around camp that war had finished.
In the evening, Mr. Mc Laren read out in front of the discipline office that the Japanese emperor had ordered that no more firing should be.
The Japs neither confirmed nor denied this statement.
In the evening there was a game of softball
Chefoo v Weihsien (We from Chefoo, who arrived in Camp after others, referred
to our opponents on the sports field as 'Weihsien', i e those who came from
Peking,
Thursday, August 16th
Around midday rumours went around that war was over. There were crowds near the front gate all talking away.
Soon the crowd dispersed and the people discussed the end of the war and what they would do.
About 8:20 p.m. a car arrived at the front gate. People came from all directions to see who was in it. It turned out to be a couple Japs. It was about the first car we had seen for a long time.
Friday, August 17th
Everybody was exited and couldn't settle down. We, of course dug into our stores more than usual. After morning roll-call, about 9:30 we heard a plane. Everybody rushed out and we found out that it was American. Occasionly foriegn (sic) planes had flown over but this was the first to fly low. It came from S-W. It flew E. of the camp and we could see the star. It had 4 engines and was a B-24. We all waved and cheered although they told us after that they didn't see us. It came over again and flew from S-N over the camp very low, about 40 feet. It almost touched the trees. Then it circled around and flew N-S, but what thrilled us all was that it dropped parachute troops. 7 in all.
Major Staiger
Lieut. J. Moore (Chefoo senior)
Lieut. Hannen
Sgt. Ray Hanchulack
Cpl. Tad Nagaki (naturalised Jap-American)
Cpl. Peter Orlick
Edward Wong. (Chinese)
We all rushed out of camp to help them in. They dropped in dull white silk parachutes. All they had to do was to turn a thing and press it and they were released from the parachute. They hid behind grave mounds because when they had started out war hadn't finished. It was a mistake what we had heard on Thursday. We yelled in English to them and they realised that they were safe then showed themselves. I was one of the first to come across. E. Wong. They had .45 colts by their hips and .32 up near their left shoulders. We were half a mile from camp amongst kao-liang and millet. The plane was 600 ft. up when they dropped. The plane zoomed over again and in its bomb racks it had big metal containers about 4' high and over a foot wide slightly rounded at each end. We carried them to a general dump by a grave. They were dropped with parachutes. The plane came again and dropped a few more and after that circled once more and flew W very close to the kao-liang and went for ever that day. The plane also ----
We then went in search for the supply containers. Some were'nt found for quite a time. We had 4 men to a container and another carried the parachute. The brought out the reserve gang cart out and dumped a good deal of the stuff on that. I thought the whole thing was over when Hoyte III asked me to come with him. A feeble minded police tried to stop us but we told him that were doing good work so he let us go on. We carried a big basket affair which contained radio parts. We ran all the way.
The band was playing and they had brought
my trumpet. Since we children were not allowed out again I played in the band.
The
The major was about the last to come of everybody, and was carried by a couple of men. Everybody cheered.
The Americans went to the Administration
building in Moon Gate.and talked with the big-shots of the camp. E. Wong talked
to us through the window. He was in
When the soldiers came out children flocked towards them, especially Nagaki. He is always seen walking around with children.
These parachute troops were picked men. When they landed they didn't know, whether Japs or communists, who were numerous, would attack them for the war isn't over yet. They were brave men. The Japs were feeling funked (sic)(The word 'funked' was used widely by some of us then. Meaning 'afraid', scared') and couldn't stop us so the Americans came in safe.
Some invalids were told to prepare 1 suit-case ― no more than 50 lbs. in case they would go that day. They didn't.
End of page ―
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Objet: A collection of memories of
Liberation Day, August 17, 1945
Date: vendredi 17
août 2007 1:54
As my gift to our liberators and their widows, I compiled and mailed the attached collection of memories of August 17, 1945.
Let me tell you where these stories come from. As you know, a few days ago, I asked people via Natasha Peterson's Weihsien Topica network, "Where were you when the American liberators came?" From around the world people began responding. I collected others from Leopold Pander's Weihsien web site where former internees have posted their memories. Some came from books or articles about Weihsien, abbreviated to make the collection manageable.
You'll notice that these stories come from
all around the world --
I wrote to our liberators, "If you ever questioned whether or not you made a difference, just read these accounts. One writer says, "It was the happiest day of my life." I told them I want their children and grandchildren to have these stories.
Liberator Peter Orlich's widow telephoned me last night after reading the collection -- twice. She told me she had wept as she read,
Thank you for these wonderful memories. What a day it was!
Mary T. Previte
MEMORIES of August 17,
1945
from
“...the
boy who spread the word made it clear as he ran through the kitchen yard
screaming in an almost insane excitement, ‘An American plane, and headed
straight for us.’ We all flung our stirring paddles down beside the cauldrons
in the kitchen, left the carrots un-chopped on the tables, and tore after the
boys to the ballfield. At this point the excitement was too great for any of us
to contain. Suddenly I realized that for some seconds I had been running around
in circles, waving my hands in the air and shouting at the top of my lungs. This
plane was OUR plane. It was sent here to tell US. To tell us the war was over.
The plane’s underside suddenly opened. Out of it floated seven men in
parachutes. The height of the incredible!
Without pausing even a second to consider the danger, we poured like some
gushing human torrent down the short road. The avalanche hit the front gate,
burst it open and streamed past the guards. Some of the more rational internees
were trying to fold the parachutes. Most of us, however, were far too ‘high’
for the task. We just stood there adoring, or ran about shouting and
dancing...”
--
I
took myself home to treat my bleeding soles
Although I was as thrilled as anyone else
when these guys dropped from the sky, I never connected with any of them
personally. I was a shy 13 year old. My friend and classmate David Birch tells
me that he and I were playing ping pong in Kitchen #1 when the sound of an
airplane drew us outside. When we got to the front gates, they were open and we
went out. I followed the kids ahead of us at a run. That’s when I was stopped
by a weed patch. I don't know what they are called but they grow prostrate
along the ground and produce lots of tiny little thorny tetrahedral stars that
always have one thorn facing the sky. I was of course barefoot! I lifted one
foot and saw perhaps 20 thorns up to the hilt in my calluses. I knew there must
be a similar number in the other foot. I wanted very much to sit down and pull
them out, but that would only have put another 50 of them in my bum. I walked
on the thorns for 15 or 20 steps till I got out of the patch, sat down, pulled
all the blankety-blank things out of my feet and took myself home to treat my
bleeding soles. As you can see, this little experience has completely colored
my memory of Liberation Day !
We heard that one of the
parachutists had been slightly injured, and wondered if he had known that the kao liang (broom corn) was 12 feet tall
when he made a landing. I remember hearing that one the guys
had his 45 out as he listened to the noises converging on him and only put it
away when a crowd of jubilant kids burst through the kao liang.
--
Oh,
What a Beautiful Morning!
My memory is of being in class. Hearing the plane, so
different to the sound of the rare Japanese plane that flew over. We
all rushed outside looking up. As it circled we ran in circles under
it. Then it started to climb higher, thinking it was going away we
stopped and wailed, only to find to our joy there were soon parachutes gently
floating down with men attached. So we
rushed to the gate and carried on through for the first time ever. I
confess I didn’t go very far as there were so many prickles attacking my bare
feet. I was certainly part of the reception back at the gateway.
Then we followed with the crowd to stand outside the Headquarters building
where Major Staiger spoke to us all. It wasn’t long before we
learnt 'You are my sunshine'
and every morning at 6 am they played over loud speakers 'Oh what a beautiful morning, Oh what a wonderful day' regardless
of the weather.
--Mary (Hoyte)
Broughton,
Liberation Day glimpses
I was on the top floor of the camp
hospital along with fellow students, when one of us heard a faint burred
humming sound. As this grew louder, our first thought was that it was just another
Japanese plane. We crowded to the window and realized that the drone of the
plane was unfamiliar to us, and hoped against hope that it was an American
plane.
As the plane circled over the camp,
we were thrilled to see the American markings and then witness the heart
stopping descent of the parachutes.
One analyst concluded that the parachutes were actually deployed with attached
dummies in order to draw enemy fire. Should this have occurred, then the plane
would have returned to its base without completing the mission. Fortunately for
all of us, the 7 heroes risking their very lives on our behalf, gloriously
fulfilled their mission.
We joined in the stampede to and
through the gate to welcome our liberators. As I recall there were no casualties.
The leaders in our camp had prepared for the possibility of such a wild chaotic
exuberant exodus from the compound on the day of actual liberation by creating
their own police unit with the members sporting red armbands. Their immediate
task was to get the women and children back into the camp and allow only the
able bodied men to recover the support supplies that had been air dropped by
the rescue plane. Without their efforts, we might still be roaming the
countryside.
--
Memories of a
Ten-Year-Old
I remember seeing the
B-24 fly over and the crates and drums falling from the bombays and the 'chutes never
opening. Then I remember the 7 jumped
from the B-24. The parachutes came down
so evenly spaced. They were like steps in a staircase. Somehow
everyone ran out of the gates. Being
small and fast – 10 years old -- I was way ahead of everyone. I was barefoot
and wore shorts. I ran to the nearest parachute that I saw land and came
upon this man in uniform who had his glasses taped to his temples. He was
already disconnected from his 'chute when I arrived. We were in a field
of stubble – maybe gaoliang.
Anyhow, he pointed to some Chinese writing which was printed on his
uniform.
I said to him, ''I'm sorry, Sir, I don't know how to read
Chinese''.
He was amazed. ''You speak English?''
''I'm from the camp, Sir”,
I said. “ We burst the
gates''.
Then the adults showed up, and I was pushed aside.
--Ted Pearson,
The
Most Exciting Day of My Life
August 17 was my best friend in camp's birthday, Wies de Jongh.
And we were grinding peanuts, making peanut butter in their front
yard. The plane came over low and then lower and we saw the
--Georgie
(Reinbrecht) Knisely.
Georgie,
I remember precisely the same scene. Being with Wies and looking
at her birthday presents, when the planes flew low that day. Thank you for the
reminder.
In friendship,
--Gay Talbot
It
Wasn’t a Dream
I remember that it was a bright day --- it must have been a cloudless
blue sky over Weihsien. I was 4-years old wandering all alone on a grassless
slope of dirty brown soil. I was next to a big rock --- as big as I was. I felt
lost – completely lost. Grown-ups running all over the place. In
my memory, I remember that all was silent --- very silent. Somebody picks me up
--- .
--- And then I wake up in the middle of the night.
I had this dream for
many – many years and finally found out that it was the day that the Americans
liberated us on 17th August 1945.
――
I don’t have that
nightmare anymore but the image is indelibly printed in my neurones. Two years
ago, when we visited Weifang and the old Weihsien hospital, I think I
recognized the brown earth slope going downwards towards the river. Alone and
with my digital camera, I started walking upstream towards what had been the
Weihsien main gate and walls beyond the compound. I think that it is there that
I was lost – 62 years ago. I was then politely and firmly invited to rejoin our
group of visitors waiting near the hospital grounds.
Once again, I woke up ――――
--
The Bomber
“IT’S AMERICAN! It’s American!”
I remember standing at the top of
the outside staircase leading up to the room where our family of four had spent
the last 2-1/2 years and seeing the sun sparkle off the aluminum body of this
unknown airplane as it turned in the distance and started back toward us,
dropping altitude. It grew larger and larger, and the roar of its engines grew
stronger and stronger until it was almost directly overhead, and we saw the
insignia on its wings.
"IT'S AMERICAN! It's
American!" we shouted to one another.
Every one of the 1,500 civilian prisoners
who could walk must have come out to see this airplane. Having made a low flight over the center of
the walled compound, the silver bird circled back and gained altitude. As
I stood at the top of the outside staircase, shirtless, barefooted, my spindly
legs brown from the sun sticking out from my khaki shorts, I saw the silver
bird out over the field again, this time going from right to left. I was afraid
it was leaving.
Then objects began dropping out of
the plane. Parachutes began to open, and I could see arms and legs moving!
I and hundreds of other prisoners
rushed the main gate of the concentration camp, hurtling past the startled
Japanese guards standing there with bayonets on rifles. We turned left on the
dirt road and pounded into the fields, heedless of the brambles and stones and
thorns under our bare feet.
The seven Americans were crouched
down, .45-caliber Tommy-guns held ready when we reached them. It must have been
a strange experience for them and perhaps a great relief to be rushed
by a ragamuffin crowd of undernourished men, women and children instead of an
armed enemy.
The Americans were carried
triumphantly on the shoulders of the men of the camp back through the main
gate. They were led by a major, to match the Japanese major who was in command
at Weihsien. In the commandant's office,
there was a short, tense confrontation between the two majors. Following the
American major's demand that the Japanese major surrender, they eyed one
another for a few seconds. The Japanese
commandant unbuckled his sword and laid it on the desk.
--Albert deZutter,
From Courtyard of the Happy Way
In the middle of the
morning while I was dictating a business letter in a Gregg Shorthand class to a group of girls
preparing themselves for Oxford Matriculation, and while hundreds in the camp
were at their normal duties, the sound of a plane could be heard.
It became louder
and louder. Throughout the camp,
studies, manual work, and cooking were instinctively and instantly dropped.
A plane was
flying overhead lower and lower, as though searching for our camp. We were later to know it was a B-24. British and American flags, which had been
concealed in the bottom of trunks from earlier days in Tientsin and
Without any
thought for the camp regulations which had confined us for years, fifteen
hundred internees rushed down the main road through the “Courtyard of the Happy
Way” gate, past the solitary guard on duty unable to hold us all back, to
welcome our liberators.
We found them a
mile outside the gate, perched behind mounds (which were Chinese graves) with
loaded guns, uncertain of their reception by the Japanese, but ready for any
eventuality. I suddenly remembered my
commitment to the Salvation Army band—to welcome whoever freed us with the
“Victory March – the medley of the various Allied national anthems.
Getting my
trombone from Block 23, I rushed back to the gate. The band was standing on a mound behind the
electrified wires at the rear of the church in a position which commanded a
good view of the triumphal entry of the seven American parachutists. The baton
of Brigadier Stranks gave the signal, and we were away.
But my eyes
strayed from the music to the drama outside the gate. The parachutists were being carried shoulder
high towards the entrance by excited internees.
My right hand went through the motion of playing the trombone as I
watched. In the group of American
liberators was Jimmy Moore who had been a prefect in the Chefoo Schools when I
was in Second Form. He had evidently
pulled strings to be part of this relief mission.
Steven, the first
trombonist beside me, a tall American lad, stopped playing and collapsed,
sobbing like a baby. I was later told
that hospital patients suffering from all kinds of ailments, had jumped out of
their ward windows to witness the spectacle, and never returned to their sick
beds, mysteriously healed of their physical complaints.
--
We Found Ourselves LOCKED OUT!
I remember --- on August 17, 1945,
internees poured through The Gate to welcome six American liberators and
to carry them in triumph to accept the surrender of the Japanese commanding
officer. Three or four of us Chefoo boys sneaked away from that
triumphant procession and dashed into Weihsien (village), where we found the
Catholic Mission. I'll never forget the welcome we were given. And
I'll never forget that when we got back to The Gate, we found ourselves
LOCKED OUT!
--James H.
We Were FREE
from “Song of Salvation at Weihsien Prison Camp”
It
was Friday, August 17. In a scorching
heat wave, I was withering with diarrhea, confined to my “poo-gai” mattress on top of three side-by-side steamer trunks in
the second floor hospital dormitory. I
heard the drone of an airplane. Sweaty
and barefoot, I raced to the window and watched a plane sweep lower then circle
again. I watched in disbelief. A giant plan emblazoned with an American star
was circling the camp. Americans were
waving from the bomber. Beyond the tree tops, its belly opened. I gaped in
wonder as August winds buffeted giant parachutes. I raced for the entry gates and was swept off
my feet by the pandemonium. Prisoners
ran in circles and pounded the skies with their fists. They wept, cursed,
hugged, danced. They cheered themselves hoarse.
Very proper grown-ups ripped off their shirts and waved at the B-24
“Liberator” circling overhead. Wave
after wave of prisoners swept past Japanese guards into fields beyond the camp.
A mile away we found them – six Americans – standing with their
weapons ready, surrounded by fields of ripening broom corn. Advancing towards them came a tidal wave of
prisoners drunk with joy and free in the open fields. Ragtag, barefoot, and hollow with hunger,
they hoisted the American major onto a bony platform of shoulders and carried
him back to the camp in triumph.
In the distance near the gate, the music of “Happy Days Are Here Again” drifted out into the fields. It was the Salvation Army band playing its
joyful Victory Medley. When it got to “The
Star Spangled Banner,” the crowd hushed.
“O, say,
does that star spangled banner still wave
O’er the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave.”
From up on his thrown of shoulders, the 27-year-old American major
struggled down to a standing salute. Up
on a mound by the gate, a young trombonist in the Salvation Army Band crumpled
to the ground and wept. He knew what we
all knew. We were free.
--Mary Taylor Previte,
----- Original Message
-----
From: Ron Bridge
Sent: Friday,
August 17, 2007 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: August 1945
While those who were in Weihsien (Weifang) a 62 years ago ponder
their memories. I thought a short extract from a diary kept at the time might
be of interest. ( I have added explantions in italics) It is written in
pencil on very thin yellow and yellowing "airmail type " paper on
both sides and in the margins, hence it is very very difficult to read I have
tried UV Light etc etc. It is definitely authentic 1945 writing
Aug 5th McLaren tells Dr JW Price exciting news re the Ruski's
joining in against
Aug 6th Martenellis fell from a tree - died that evening from
terrible injuries ( added from RonB's
Memory I was standing six feet away when he hit the ground on the main road)
Aug 7th Funeral of Martinellis - awful heat day & night Dr
Grice's glamour girls very bad - Phyllis Parkin worst of all
Aug 8th Mrs Lawless died of paratyphoid after 7 weeks in Hospital.
She was buried next day - first in the new cemetery outside the compound walls.
Aug 10th McLaren tried a interview with Watanabe who did not
wish to see him - ran away hotly pursued by McLaren - finally fled out the
front gate where McLaren couldn't follow. Awful heat - worst of the whole
summer- dripping day and night - heat in huts 97F (RonB
36C) at night.
Aug 14th The Committee have emergency meeting very exciting news
received - put up notice saying that "There is reason to believe that the
war is over "
Aug 15th Vio says the Emperor of Japan has proclaimed "
For the first time in 2600 years
Aug 16th Nothing but rumours + everyone very excited.
Aug 17th At 10 am great excitement an American plane comes over -
flying very low - then 7 men dropped by parachute in the Koaliang filed -
then the plane circled again + dropped lots of gear by
parachute we all ran out of front gate - terrific excitement -afternoon
fixed up places for them to sleep medical sergt in hospital, others in
Commandants office etc Major Staggers (sic) held meeting
with Committee + Japs. Chinese boy of 14 injured by parcel falling on head
parahcute did not open - very bad fractured skull - carried to Hospital - the
Lieut injured shoulder in falling - all landed prepared to
fight - came out of the koaliang towards us with loaded pistols etc
Here endeth the extract
Ron B
De: "Albert de
Zutter" <albertarthur@sbcglobal.net>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: from
Date: vendredi 17
août 2007 17:11
Good point, Leopold. Mentioning Churchilll is a not very sophisticated way of bringing in the big guns to give weight to a story for which there is no basis.
----- Original Message
-----
From: Donald
Menzi
Sent: Friday,
August 17, 2007 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: A collection of memories of
Liberation Day, August 17, 1945
Good work,
Mary!
Donald
De: "rod
miller" <rmmiller@optusnet.com.au>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: from
Date: vendredi 17
août 2007 23:49
Hello Ron
At
03:01 AM 15/08/2007, you wrote:
I
think that I can shed some light on this.
1. Eric Liddell is listed as not having ever applied for evacuation in the
Swiss Consular records for Weihsien Camp.
Could the Weihsien internees apply for evacuation?
2.
When the second evacuation was being planned for US and Canadians in September
1943 there was also correspondence regarding doing an exchnage for UK British
but it was abandoned when it was found that there were insufficient Japanese
living in
Remember for every Canadian released to
Sorry Ron but I don't believe this is quite correct.
What is difficult to understand is that on the insistence of the US the
negotiations for exchange of British and US internees were conducted
separately. This was insisted on by the
It's true that in the
3
However Eric Liddell's wife Flo had not gone back to Tientsin after their
1940 home leave which ahd begun in Scotland and went to live in Toronto
with their children and as Eric Liddell's next of kin had a Canadian
Address he would have briefly been listed as Canadian and hence eligible for
exchange evacuation. His passport was definitely British ( issue by Brfitish
Consulate Teitnsin in January 1937) thus I am of the considered opinion from
the research that I have done that the fact that he was consdiered for exchange
was based on incomplete knowledge of the facts above rumour and surmise.
turned
down an offer of liberation by Winston Churchill from a
wartime internment camp in
Could Winston Churchill could have got an offer
into Weihsien with out all of you knowing? Seems a little farfetched to me?
Rod
De: "Donald
Menzi" <dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À:
"weihsien" <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Updated Weihsien "Slide
Show"
Date: samedi 18
août 2007 2:45
Happy anniversary, all you Weihsieners.
For some of you the big day has already
passed, but here in the
Mary has done a very nice thing in collecting all those descriptions of that day in 1945 and sharing them with us. For my part, I have just updated the "Weihsien Walking Tour" slide show by adding the photograph of the jubilant crowd of internees coming out the gate as the concluding image. Many thanks to Leopold for drawing our attention to it. It is, as he says, the best photo in the entire collection.
If any of you are interested in re-taking the "walking tour" or re-living the wonderful 2005 celebration, you can now do so by going either to http:/weihsien.menzi.org or simply to www.menzi.org.
Best wishes to the whole Weihsien family, scattered around the world. And thanks again to our Weifang city government friends for hosting such a wonderful anniversary celebration in 2005. After all they have done for us, I personally hope that they are able to capitalize on their Olympic connection to bring even more people to visit their historic park.
Donald Menzi
----- Original Message
-----
From: sipabit
Sent: Friday,
August 17, 2007 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: liberation day-- Peter
Bazire's diary
yes it came through, fabulous read. I remember the pistol on the hip, but not the other one! I also remember an adult in the camp from Tienstin who looked Chinese and he apparently was getting messages wrapped in oilpaper throughout. I believe he lived in the dorms where my Aunty Dolly (Block 50?) lived i.e a bachelor. She told my folks just after my birthday that the war was supposed to be over. Thanks.
De: "David
Birch" <gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: from
Date: samedi 18
août 2007 5:14
Albert, Leopold, et al.
As soon as I read that first account about
Winston Churchill arranging a repatriation of Eric Liddell, and Liddell turning
it down, I said to myself, "This has to be completely phoney!" I agree that Winston Churchill would not be
arranging this sort of thing. Secondly,
if Liddell really had been offered a repatriation, it would almost certainly
have been to
Yes, I agree that Liddell was a truly saintly man, but he was also a husband and the father of little girls, one of whom he had never even seen yet. I think that at this point, where his normal missionary work was no longer possible, he would have (or certainly should have) rejoined his little family if the way had really opened up for that! Which I don't believe for a moment it did.
You are right that a legend has begun to form around Eric Liddell. He was certainly a good man, and there are legendary aspects to his life. But he did have his feet firmly planted on the ground and was still just a man.
I knew Eric Liddell from afar, heard him tell the story of the 1924 Olympics to a group of us young people in the camp, and definitely in those days saw him as a Christian hero. So I have no bias against him, but I know for certain that there would have been no major movement to repatriate him at the height of World War Two. That's just someone's dream!
David
De:
<MTPrevite@aol.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Henrietta DeJong
Date: samedi 18
août 2007 17:22
Does anyone have contact information for Henrietta DeJong?
Mary Previte
De: "lucy
lu" <lucy9859@hotmail.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Updated Weihsien "Slide
Show"
Date: lundi 20
août 2007 7:39
Dear Donald Menzi,
Glad to hnow that you've updated the weishien walking tour slide show, but
I can't log on your recomended website. Is there any other solution?
Thanks for your great idea about the olympic connection of weihsien camp.
Best regards.
lucy
weifang foreign & overseas chinese affairs office
De: "Donald
Menzi" <dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Updated Weihsien
Date: mardi 21 août
2007 17:23
Dear Lucy,
Apparently the new site www.menzi.org is
being blocked in
I will send you a CD with the slide shows and with the documents that related to Weihsien so you can print them out.
Please email me your mailing address and I will make them for you right away.
Donald Menzi
De: "lucy
lu" <lucy9859@hotmail.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Updated Weihsien
Date: jeudi 23 août
2007 5:17
Dear Sir,
Please email me at: Lu
Jie, Room 1405,
City,
Thanks so much.
Lucy
De: "Pamela
Masters" <pamela@hendersonhouse.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Barbara "Dickie"
Cameron
Date: jeudi 23
août 2007 21:45
Hi Everyone --
I have a lovely picture of
"Dixie" Cameron, take in the camp just before we left for
Pamela
Pamela Masters -
Author/Publisher
Titles: The
Mushroom Years, Sass & Serendipity
Phone:
530-647-2000
Fax: 530-647-2002
pamela@hendersonhouse.com
http://www.hendersonhouse.com
De: "Joyce
Cook" <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Barbara "Dickie"
Cameron
Date: vendredi 24
août 2007 5:00
Dear Bobby. I would like to have all the photos if you put them on the email or
net. I Remember Barbara Cameron, we used to call her Dickie. She had a sister
Alice ( I think). We used to call her "Woodgie" Her stepfather was "Booboo" Cameon.
They were from Tsintsien. "Leo" may be Leo Twyford-Thomas who died a
few years ago , in
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: Barbara "Dickie"
Cameron
Date: vendredi 24
août 2007 7:34
Dear Pamela,
Great :-))
I'd be glad to add your photos on the weihsien-paintings web-site ---
Technically speaking, you can scan them at
300dpi (printer definition) and send them to me by e-mail as *.jpg-files. The
files will be quite big --- so send them "one" or "two" at
the time. The other way is to make colour-photocopies of your photos and send
them by post to
Hope you manage :-)
I'm always keen to add "whatever" is related to Weihsien ---
Best regards,
Leopold
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: book
Date: vendredi 24
août 2007 11:02
Hello,
I just found and bought a very interesting book about the Emperor's Army:
http://www.amazon.fr/Larm%C3%A9e-lempereur-Violences-crimes-1937-1945/dp/2200266979
--- it is in French but I am certain that many of you read "French".
There is a whole chapter about the civilian
prisoners in the
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "David
Birch" <gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Barbara
"Dickie" Cameron
Date: samedi 25
août 2007 0:05
Would Leo have possibly been Leo Owerkirk
(sp?)? I remember Leo Owerkirk from
Weihsien. We visited together a bit just after the war ended. I was 13 and I
think he would have been 11 or 12. I
told him I was from
One of the little oddities I can recall of our conversation was his pronunciation of the name of an automobile that I think he said his dad had owned. The car, Leo said was a PLY - mouth. The first syllable rhymed with 'high' and the second syllable was pronounced just as the word 'mouth.' I did not correct him (why embarrass the kid) but got a real kick out of it myself.
Anyway, I remember Leo as a really friendly kid, a nice boy!
Anyone else has memories of Leo Owerkirk or knows what he went on to do in life? Also you may know the proper spelling of his name.
David
De: "Pamela
Masters" <pamela@hendersonhouse.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Barbara "Dickie"
Cameron
Date: samedi 25
août 2007 1:50
Hi Joyce --
When Dickie Cameron came to visit me in So
Cal she called herself Dixie, maybe that's where I got the idea that she was
Great hearing from you -- Pamela (Bobby)
De: "Albert de
Zutter" <albertarthur@sbcglobal.net>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: book
Date: samedi 25
août 2007 8:48
Thanks for the recommendation, Leopold. The book is not listed in the American version of Amazon, but I emailed them and asked that they stock it. They do have a number of French language books that came up when I put the title in the search space -- some having "L'empereur" in the title and others about various military subjects -- Algeria, Indo-China, Napoleon, etc. Anyway, we'll see if they decide to stock it for American consumption. I am interested in reading the book.
Regards,
Albert
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: more extracts from Peter
Bazire's diary,
Date: jeudi 30
août 2007 8:28
Hello,
Peter just sent me four new double-pages of his diary ---
--- here they are --- in "avant première" ---
Best regards,
Leopold
""
Saturday, August 18th,
People young and old were asking that Americans to write their names in their autograph albums or suchlike books.
I forgot to say that on Friday evening the sewing room made letters out of the parachute "O.K. TO LAND" for the airdrome which is about 5 miles South of us.
Also the U.V. and L.V. (Lower & Upper 5th forms (aged 14 & 15)) had to be messengers for the camp police who wore red armbands with C.P. in black. We wore green scarves on our left arms.
First of all we did from 2-6 p.m.. There weren’t many messages to carry.
- Saturday (continued)
There were 3 messangers (sic) at H.Q. (S.W. room of 25) & 2 at the gate. The hours were permanent ― 9.30 ― 11.30; 11.30 ― 1.00; 1.00 ― 3.00; 3.00 ― 5.00 from then on. I was on from 1 ― 3 at the gate. I was told in the morning that A. Hummel & Tipton were expected that day. I saw horses the other side of the river coming down the path. I guessed that they were T + H. (Tipton and Hummel). The horses' tails were different colour from the main body. A Chinese told us that they were. When they came in sight again they were walking with a Chinese officer between them. Tipton was in canary khaki & Hummel in blue trousers & white shirt. The camp came down to the front gate to see them especially D. Candlin who is H's girl friend. They went to H.Q. & the Adm. Building & talked there.
A wretched Jap plane was on the airfield so when the B-24 came that afternoon, it couldn't land. As well the Japs had some men with rifles on the base. The major was very heated with the Japs.
I was up the Hospital tower when the B-24 came. Tad, a nervy little chap stood on the top railing of the parapet & held on the roof. Immediately he saw the plane in the distance, he said that it was a B-24. The plane flew low over the camp a few times & the last time it flew very close to the tower ― we had a good view. In the evening I played the violin duet with Pat. Evenden. ― Youth concert.
Sunday, August 19th
Nothing much.
There was a church parade in the morning, all scouts, guides, rangers, rovers (not cubs & brownies) taking part. Also all ex-soldiers & volunteers etc…. had seats reserved. They marched down main road while the band played. I came late 'cause of band but had a seat reserved. It was an Anglican service in which all clergy (6) & the bishop took part. Mr. Mc. Douall led the sermon. He read the whole thing. All the ex-service men wore their medals ― some had at least 10. At the end we lined up outside the church & were dismissed. J. Moore & a couple of other soldiers came at the end & the people gathered around them & talked.
In the afternoon about 4.30. a plane came over & looked dark & also didn't look like the B-24 so people thought it was a Jap. People thought it funny for the Americans to go down to the field the other side of the river where there was a white cross, but the Americans knew it to be a C-47. It had its wheels down ― 2 engines & an ordinary tail. ― Nothing much for the rest of the day. When on duty a Jap found a hand grenade & threw it into the river.
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Father Hanquet's map ---
Date: mardi 4
septembre 2007 13:33
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/hanquet/mapAsiaUNRA/p_map01.htm
did you find Wei-hsien? on the railroad track from CH'ING-TAO to LI-CH'ENG?
---
Best regards,
Leopold
Hello
all,
There
is a new chapter just opened on http://www.weihsien-paintings.org thanks to Anne de Saint
Hubert, Christian's daughter.
click
here:
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/Christian_deSaintHubert/indexFrame.htm
---
also and a very interesting article about Christian de Saint Hubert from the
Warship International magazine (1994) written by Christopher Wright.
There
is more to come ---- (I'll let you know :-))
Best
regards,
Leopold
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: new chapter
Date: vendredi 21
septembre 2007 9:44
I forgot to add a link:
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/hanquet/mapAsiaUNRA/ColourMapChina.jpg
It is Father Hanquet's map of
all the best,
Leopold
De: "rod
miller" <rmmiller@optusnet.com.au>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Punch cards
Date: mardi 25 septembre
2007 12:48
Hello Weihsieners,
were you aware of the
It's a very useful tool which must only recently have been made
available, as I haven't come across it before.
I think it only covers US personnel.
Rod Miller
De:
<MTPrevite@aol.com>
À:
<jonathan.henshaw@ualberta.ca>; <dmenzi@earthlink.net>;
<tapol@skynet.be>
Objet: Weihsien
Date: jeudi 27
septembre 2007 16:10
Dear Jonathan Henshaw:
Your request for information about Weihsien has been forwarded to me by Leopold Pander who has created the remarkable Weihsien web site.
As a child, I was interned in Weihsien with
students and teachers of the
I have forwarded your request to Donald Menzi, a relative of the Wilders.
I believe Donald has the Wilder diaries and remarkable watercolors of Weihsien painted by Gertrude Wilder. Donald Menzi has compiled one of the best bibliographies of books about Weihsien. There are many.
You may also be interested in a book
written by Sister M. Servatia, Order of
St. Francis, A CROSS IN CHINA, A Story
of My Mission, that includes detailed
accounts of the Weihsien experience of
members of this Roman Catholic order who were in interned there. This book is
published by Cuchullain Publications, One Rose Marie Alley,
Another source of information is available
in the archives of
You can go to the Norman Cliff chapter on
the Weihsien web site and access letters about Weihsien sent by Mr. Egger, a Swiss envoy who regulatly
inspected the camp to report to
Mary Taylor Previte
De: "Donald
Menzi" <dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À:
"weihsien" <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: Wilder and Galt Diaries
Date: jeudi 27
septembre 2007 17:46
Hello, Weihsieners,
FYI I am forwarding to you my response to an inquiry to Leopold's web site. It's always nice to find that new people find the Weihsien story interesting and important.
Donald Menzi
-----Forwarded
Message-----
>From: Donald
Menzi <dmenzi@earthlink.net>
>Sent: Sep 27,
2007 10:53 AM
>To: Jonathan
Henshaw <Jonathan.Henshaw@ualberta.ca>
>Cc: Leopold
<tapol@skynet.be>
>Subject: Wilder and Galt Diaries
>
>
>Dear Jonathan,
>
>I'm so glad that you appreciated coming
across the Wilder and Galt diaries.
George Wilder was my grandfather, and the copy I have of his diary was
among some of his papers that were archived in the
>
>The Galt documents are in a more
appropriate location - the
>
>May I ask which web site you found them on? I have two locations with variouos URLs.
>
>And were you able to play the video "walking tour" of the camp? Some people have had trouble getting it to load.
>
>Leopold Pander is the encylopedic source of photos, paitings and writings about Weihsien. My sites are pretty much limited to the stuff that I have, which is still quite a lot. I could send you a bibliography listing books written by former Weihsieners, all of which are, I believe, available from various on-line used-book dealers.
>
>Best wishes.
>
>Donald Menzi
>
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: peter's diary
Date: samedi 29
septembre 2007 7:22
More from Petter's diary :-))
Best regards,
Leopold
""
Monday, August 20th
The rumour was that about 20 Americans were
in Weihsien & that 7 planes were to arrive that day. The last rumour didn't
happen. The 20 odd Americans came about 11.00 in a truck ― a mission for
release work in
They had a photographing outfit & took several pictures. Each man had a crowd around him & signed their names for people. The car on the main road went backwards & forwards with people inside (children) & outside up main road. The highest man was Lieut. Colonel Bird
May I say that all this time since the first batch came & had fixed up the wireless set, bulletins were posted up on the walls outside kitchens for the public to read. It was called 'The Zoom'. Also Mr.Egger has been in & out.
Marketing is going over the wall all the time. We gave tins & old clothing mainly & they mainly gave eggs, water melons, sugar, tomatoes, apples & sometimes cigarettes, corncobs, chickens, soap.
We sometimes gave money. Roughly 4 apples = 100 dollars P.R.B. One big water melon 500. Eggs 20-50$.
A Jap at the front gate lost his head & fired, after long manuvering (sic) with his pistol, at the Chinese selling. He purposely fired above their heads. About 4 p.m. the C of Police ran after the Chinese & fired above their heads & he came to the fence where there was a Chinese just the other side. It looked funny to see him purposely fire above his head with his small pistol.
At 4.00 there was chocolate for 1 – 16 or sweets. I drew chocolate.
In the evening there was a "Gala
Supper" on the ball field. At 7.00 the band played a couple of marches
& finished up with the victory march which contained the national anthem of
:-
Then the orchestra played which was too soft for outside.
There were two big flags E + A on the catcher's net with a "V" of bulbs. Also a few Swiss e.t.c. here & then Ada Foxlee & Gillian Hall danced a Hungarian dance which the A's photographed. The photo is about "X". Then there was a ball-room dancing alternated with a 'hula' dance by Betty Lambert, 'tap' dance by Sheila Black, by Mrs. Baliante, Russian folk song; song by Mrs. Prior; Mr. Gleed sang.
Once after a dance Mr. Adams played his clarinet in & out of the dancers very beautifully. The dance ended at 11.00 p.m. when the room lights went out. The street lights stayed on for ages. Some of the band including Mr. Adams played on until 3.00 a.m.
At the supper there was a terrific stink of bigar.
P.S. In the afternoon about 4.30 theC-47 flew low over the camp a few times just for thrill. Some people were funked because it flew so low. It dipped its wings.
Tuesday 21st
In the evening, the B-24 flew low over the camp.
Wednesday 22nd
About 7.00 the C-47 flew over the camp low
once & then flew away to
The marketing was stopped during the morning. When on duty we sat on the turret & talked all the time. Only about 4 messages were run in the whole time. When a garbage box was carried out we had to drive the Chinese urchins away.
During the afternoon I would go to the moongate & talk with the Americans.
The jump on Friday was Sgt Ray N Hanchulak's 23rd jump. The major's 10th. E Wong's 1st. You sit down & get shoved out. The order of the paratroops is as follows:-
1) Major Staiger
2) Tad Nagaki,
3) Sgt. Ray Hanchulak,
4)
5) E. Wong,
6)
7)
Sgt. Ray told us that he had 5 weeks training. He has jumped in enemy territory many times. In the evening M. Staiger came out and sang a few songs. He always forgot the words ½ way through. It was about the first time he has ever talked with the children ― too buisy (sic). About 8.15 the radio was placed on the veranda for the public to listen to.
At 8.40 we held a court of honour about the
10 knives we were given. The Weihsien troops were given 8 & a compass &
mouth organ. We had a good wrist compass. The knives were beauties.
Thursday 23rd
The 3 schools ― Chefoo ― Weihsien ― American school were photographed with a small Kodak camera ― 2 photos each.
In the evening there was a softball
The market was opened from 10.30 - 11.30 & 3- 4. Only for adults. It was by the fence near the river. Also private marketing was going on N.E. of the hos. + at 23. (not allowed)
There were about 15 Chinese soldiers & an officer doing something outside the gate. We brought food and tea to them. Their job was to look after the market. They had 1945 rifles but they looked local ― some were cracked.
Friday 24th
Nothing except some odd rumours which didn't happen.
Saturday 25th
In the morning a radio message came to say that Tad Nagaki was to be sergeant instead of corporal.
When we went on duty as on previous days, we saw a Jap talking to the Chinese soldiers. This time a fuhny (sic) tall Chinese was teaching the J. bayoneting. Chinese go in for a lot of funny style. We got their food for them as usual.
We heard a rumour when on duty that a plane
had left
It came over about 5 times & dropped some in packages ― sections tied together & some containers.
The last time it flew over & dropped no parachutes & we knew it had finished ― it circled there as usual but before reaching the field ― it turned W & dipped its wings twice & went forever.
May I say that when the plane first was seen the major who was on the field with the other men, fired first a green then a yellow 'Very' light. Also he made some green then yellow thick smoke.
There were 14 drops in all. Some of the usual long pakages & some boxes containing chocolate & cigarettes. The long containers had tin goods such as sliced bacon ― roast beef ― steamed fruit cake (3¾ ozs net) ― all these tins are different from the parcels we had months ago. The tins were of green khaki colour.
The plane is called the "Armoured Angel"
Sunday, August 26th,
Chocolate was given to everybody in
#
End of page
De: <MTPrevite@aol.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: peter's diary
Date: samedi 29
septembre 2007 14:33
What a fascinating record from Peter Bazire~
I know that our liberator, Tad Nagaki, and the widows of liberators Jim Moore and Peter Orlich will be thrilled to read these fascinating details of their time in Weihsien. I'll forward these pages to them.
Keep the pages coming, Peter.
Mary Previte
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>; "
Objet: Visit to
Date: dimanche 7
octobre 2007 10:51
Hello :-))
Its good to share ---
go to:
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/60YearsAfter/SlideShow/WeifangTV/index.htm
---- send me the pictures of the
Best regards,
Leopold
De:
<MTPrevite@aol.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Liberation of Weihsien -- in
a DVD about liberation of concentration camps
Date: mardi 9
octobre 2007 0:31
May we have your opinion, please?
The National World War II Museum in
After the museum learned of our 2005 Weihsien reunion, I was invited to tell about our liberation. Before that, the museum knew nothing about Weihsien.
Would you like to have Leopold include on his Weihsien web site only the segments about Weihsien? Or would you like to include the whole 12 minutes that show the liberation of Weihsien in the context of the liberation of camps all around the world?
The DVD was professionally-produced as part of a $300 million fund raising effort that will dramatically expand the museum's facitities. It was shown and a copy was given as a gift to each patron at a recent gala that launched the museum's fund raising for its expansion. .
The World War II Museum is affiliated with
the Smithsonian Institute in
Mary Previte
From: Donald
Menzi
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: Liberation of Weihsien -- in a DVD about
liberation of concentration camps
Mary,
Without
having seen any of it, I generally believe that it's useful to place things in
historical context, so I'd vote for the whole thing.
Don
De: "Raymond
Moore" <raym82@hotmail.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Liberation of Weihsien -- in
a DVD about liberation of concentration camps
Date: mardi 9
octobre 2007 0:53
Thanks Mary for all the bits and pieces that you bring to our attention. I would like to see the whole twelve minutes as it would put the Weihsien bit into context.
Ray Moore
Bev & Ray Moore
Phone: (03) 5174
0531
De: "Fred
& Coral Dreggs" <adreggs@bigpond.net.au>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Liberation of Weihsien -- in
a DVD about liberation of concentration camps
Date: mardi 9
octobre 2007 2:26
Hi Mary,
I would very much like to see the whole 12 minutes
Thank You
Fred
De:
<grannydavies@aol.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Liberation of Weihsien -- in
a DVD about liberation of concentration camps
Date: mardi 9
octobre 2007 2:48
Hi Mary, forgot to answer the question, Yes would like the whole 12 mins.
thanks, Phyllis
De: "Alison Holmes"
<aholmes@prescott.edu>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Liberation of Weihsien -- in
a DVD about liberation of concentration camps
Date: mardi 9
octobre 2007 2:51
I think it is coming across loud and clear, Mary! Whole 12 minutes please.
What a treat. Well done you for getting the Museum to include Weihsien............Alison
De: "Joyce
Cook" <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Liberation of Weihsien -- in
a DVD about liberation of concentration camps
Date: mardi 9
octobre 2007 5:47
Yes I think the whole 12 minutes ought to be included. Thanks Mary.Joyce Bradbury
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Liberation of Weihsien -- in
a DVD about liberation of concentration camps
Date: mardi 9
octobre 2007 7:02
--- click on this link:
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/Mprevite/VideoWWIImuseum/p_Video.htm
click on the various links and let us know what you get? (the camera pictogram brings you to the film ---)
---- all the 12 minutes --- pictures and sound :-))
Leopold
De:
"georgeanna knisely" <jknisely@paonline.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Liberation of Weihsien -- in
a DVD about liberation of concentration camps
Date: mardi 9
octobre 2007 12:56
Mary, I vote for the 12 minutes. Love to see us in perspective. Like the book on all the camps in
De: "Pamela
Masters" <pamela@hendersonhouse.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Liberation of Weihsien -- in
a DVD about liberation of concentration camps
Date: mercredi 10
octobre 2007 1:32
Hi Mary --
I'd definitely like to see the full 12 minutes. Thank you for your great promotion of the Weihsien story. Who knows? Someday we might find we're not preaching to the choir anymore... and that would be great for all of us. Thanks again -- Pamela
De: "David
Birch" <gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Liberation of Weihsien -- in
a DVD about liberation of concentration camps
Date: mercredi 10
octobre 2007 4:07
I think it would be good to include the full 12 minutes enabling the liberation of Weihsien to be shown in the context of the liberation of several other prison camps in other countries.
But only if that is convenient for Leopold.
De: "peter
bazire" <psbazire@yahoo.co.uk>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Liberation of Weihsien
Date: mercredi 10
octobre 2007 12:34
Hullo Mary,
Yes, all 12 minutes please.
Cheerio,
Peter
De:
<MTPrevite@aol.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Liberation of Weihsien -- in a
DVD about liberation of concentration camps
Date: mercredi 10
octobre 2007 12:58
Hello, David:
I think you'll enjoy this 12-minute video focusing on the theme of freedom and liberation of WORLD WAR II concentration camps. . It was
professionally-produced for the National World War II Museum in
The video features music, photographs,
and personal stories of men and women
who were in concentration camps or who helped
to liberate the camps in
These very brief exerpts were chosen from several hours of interviews.
Donald Bishop, he Information Officer
of the U.S. Embasssy in
I was invited to
(http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/Mprevite/VideoWWIImuseum/Videos/p_film01.htm )
Mary
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Peter Bazire's Diary ---
Date: mercredi 10
octobre 2007 16:27
Hello,
--- here are the latest adds from Peter Bazire's diary: Monday 27th August 1945 --- (on the web-site shortly with more sketches by Peter)
""
Monday, August 27th
The time is changed to Big Ben time. At 7.00 (which used to be 8.00) we heard and saw a plane coming towards us. It looked longer and more sleek than the usual B-24. It was a B-29. When it flew low & close it looked very slick. It had an ordinary tail not like the B-24 which had a double one. In a few minutes a second one arrived. The first to arrive had an "A" on the top fin of the tail. The second didn't. After about 10 minutes a third appeared like the first. They circled around & eventually held a wireless conversation with our Ams in camp here. I forget to say that the first one dropped pamphlets at about 7.30 & again at about 7.40. They landed at the ball field.
At about 9.15 the plane dropped some white parachutes. I noticed that some didn't have parachutes. My father said that he would do my 9.30-10.00 pumping so I went out of the camp with a lot of other men & boys & helped roll the stuff along. It was terribly damaged – tins of fruit salad just half empty so we helped ourselves. On the pamphlets it said that supplies would be dropped in an hour or two. I saw a few planes appearing over the East horizon.
I had to go back & get some buckets for broken tins. In the meantime the B-24s came over.
When I went out again I found that it was very dangerous. They would land big drums about 2'x4' & some larger ones about 2 times the length - also clothing & medical supplies.
The stuff might land within 10 yards of you – nearly get killed.
The B-29s couldn't go slower than 200 m.p.h. so the stuff came down at a great angle.
"Heads up" was what people would say when a plane came from E-W low.
The planes (which had 1°.W.SUPPLIES under their wings) made circles E-W-S-E-N-W-west always over us. It was really dangerous.
We were told afterwards that there were 12 planes in all but it seemed like only 7. A plane would circle around a few times & drop its stuff & then go & another would come. They came from OKONAWA (sic) except the 'Armoured Angel'.
Some of the planes were supposed to be Flying or Super Fortresses.
If you saw a plane coming you would have to make up your mind which way to go – N or S. The plane always seemed to follow you. It would face your way but go slightly side ways. I once had to go either N or S so I went N to find the plane doing as above & the stuff landed within 10 yards earth & juice hitting my face.
I expected to find a number of Chinese & us killed but there were evidently none. One Italian was grazed on the shoulder but was alright & went on working. Some people missed being killed by 3 foot or less.
All the time we were out there, we hogged away at tinned fruit salad & at tinned peach & milk.
There was also tinned grape fruit juice which was the most wanted for thirst. Also people helped themselves to packages of chocolate & chewing gum. They swiped enough to keep them going for the rest of the day. The men took cigarettes.
Around 10.30 I was on guard at the house where there was a temporary dump. There was a drum with only about 6" of cocoa in the bottom.
Then I went & helped roll the drums to the dump. When a plane came over we would say 'all clear' because the flaps were shut. But when it got over us the flaps would open & the stuff would crash down the other side of the river. It wasn't a very pleasant to see the huge drums crash amongst the Chinese although I found out after that one or two were slightly hurt.
When the planes went at about 11, I went the other side of the field on the N side where the stream bends. There I took off my shoes & waded across (the water only came up just above my knees) the river (about 15 ft wide) & helped chuck bust tins into a drum.
I had a good fillup of grape fruit juice which was wanted by my body. The Chinese were given the empty tins, but some that I kicked, I found full so I took them away.
Then everything was carried to the main dump.
From there Luxon & I carried stuff on a crate without sides. It was awkward crossing the river because there was hardly enough room for two couples to cross at a time. We stopped at 12.45 for dinner but before that the last load we carried was a whole lot of soap & a bag of caps on top. We had a half time rest. People passing by helped themselves to the caps so we did.
At 1.30 I went to the front gate but found that they didn't need any more work. But I wanted to go out for the thrill so I managed to squirm with a cart & we carried in about 5 small drums. The work was finished by about 2.30.
Then we had to move the stuff from outside the church to inside.
About 4.00 I was going to get a shower when I was asked to haul the reserve gang cart to the church for carrying medical supplies. They stank abominably. We finished at about 4.30. Then I had a long wanted shower.
Late in the afternoon a couple of C-47s landed at the airport & about 7.00 p.m. supplies were brought in by truck. Sugar & C-Ration.
Tuesday August 28th
Some chocolate was given out.
A C-47 landed in the afternoon & landed a bit of supplies.
In the morning from 8.30 – 9.00 12 people were taken away by car to the airport & the planes zoomed over about 9.30.
De:
<MTPrevite@aol.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet:
DONALD
BISHOP and the World War II Museum video on LIBERATION
Date: mercredi 10
octobre 2007 20:06
From: Donald Bishop <_donbishop99@hotmail.com_
(mailto:donbishop99@hotmail.com) >
Date: October 9, 2007 9:58:16 PM EDT
Subject: World War II Museum video on LIBERATION
In August, 2005, I almost decided I was too busy to go to what I thought would be a small ceremony marking the 60th anniversary of the liberation of a camp where the Japanese held Western civilian prisoners during World War II.
But at the last minute, I travelled to
Weifang in
_ http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/Mprevite/VideoWWIImuseum/Videos/p_film01.htm _
( http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/Mprevite/VideoWWIImuseum/Videos/p_film01.htm )
I had to click on the link and the screen a few times to get it to work.
Regards, Don
De: "Tapol"
<tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Peter Bazire's
diary,
Date: vendredi 19
octobre 2007 17:18
Hello,
Peter Bazire sent me a few new pages of his diary ----
Hope you enjoy them as much as I did :-))
Best regards,
Leopold
Wednesday August 29th
Tins were given out - our family (four, 4) 4 tins breakfast, 4 tins Campbell's Asparagus soup (2), Campbell's Chicken soup (2), 1 Big tin fruit salad, 1 Big tin Apricot, 2 Big tins fruit juice (Grape fruit). We opened a Supper & a juice.
Thursday August 30th
Theo's birthday.
A plane, which Tad said was a Jap, flew over about 12.00.
Boots were tried on at KI for your size; 7, 7½, 8, 9, 9½, 10,10½, 11, 11½. Then you went in a queue & registered your size. I first took 8 then decided to take 9.
In the afternoon they were given out from 3 – 4.30. Soon after they began giving out, 9 and over were allowed to go to the head of the long queue & get theirs first.
I found after that mine were slightly narrow so (I had 9D) I changed for 9E. I found in my boots a tin of Dubbing (sic) which I rubbed in. You can't polish after D unless you get a smooth surface & rub all over. I only want mine for rough use so I'm not going to. I polished my black ones & wore them in the evening. Most people are wearing their boots. I'm not wearing them till the colder weather.
Friday August 31st
In the morning some 20 GI's came by truck. They had come from the airport where they had landed in two C-47s.
There were amongst them Col. Weinburg – Cpt. Ashwood for entertainment. There were some very dark ones amongst them. One gave me a bullet .42. I was talking to them outside 35 where they had dumped their equipment. A lorry went to the airport for the supplies which mainly consisted of coffee.
There were games etc. & a cinema & films. Also magazines & a small library of books.
Some of the sick or next to go went in the morning e.g. Mrs. Legaspe, Hopegills etc.
Saturday September 1st
At 5.00 p.m. Col. Weinburg gave a short
talk on the ball field to 15 & upward on what their purpose of coming here.
Evacuation within 60 days – entertainment. He said that the very sick would go
by air to SIAN & further & the rest of us would go to some port
probably
In the evening was a sing song for youth in the church led by Cpt. Ashwood.
Sunday September 2nd
About 8.50 a.m. when playing in the band, we heard a drone & saw a plane coming. It was a B-29 with the engines & tail tip painted red. The wings looked very far back. The plane had a very clear drone & flew with grace.
When the band quit I got my father to do my 9 – 9.30 pumping.
By this time a second & a third appeared. I ran upstairs & found no school prayers. I put on my stockings & boots & went to the towers S-E of the hospital. While in the hospital putting on my boots I heard a crash & I thought that the plane had hit a chimney but it turned out only to be one of the things it dropped without parachute landed on the wire (telegraph). One loose tin went through the hospital screen window of the ladies ward. I was up the tower when a plane (there were about 5 by this time) coming low for us. One plane had already dropped a bit of stuff in camp so we took shelter under the tower & as I jumped from the wall I banged my teeth & nose against S. Houghton. My teeth bled for a while but I soon got over it.
Then I jumped over the wall & went through the wire & helped out in the fields. There was a lot of broken chocolate & fruit to eat as last time. It was very dangerous when the plane came because of the broken ones or ones which have no parachute. They had a very pretty colour scheme. Yellow crome (sic), blue, green (light & dark), red.
It wasn't so dangerous as last time; they had no drums, just the cardboard boxes strapped together. There were no medical or clothing. Just food.
I was sent back for tea which was taken over by the girls. I went to the front gate but they said no boys were wanted yet until the planes had gone so I walked back & went out through the tower S-E of the Hospital.
I went about ½ mile S.E. of the camp & then crossed the river & went to the field which had PW on it in white silk & black edges. There was as much chocolate as you wanted (broken). I went for a long walk by the river. A mile or more. I saw no white man around so I turned back in case of Balu (communists) who were thick in this part. I never realised in what danger I was in until I got amongst my own people again because these Balu would quite likely take people as hostages.
I then helped carry the stuff to the general dump. There were a lot of Chinese boys & men helping. They, having lived a coolie life, could carry much more than us. The stuff was assembled on the S side of the field by about 12.15. One man I had an argument said it would take at least 2 days to get the stuff in although I didn't think so. It was scattered in the same place as before & even on the E & S.E. side of our camp.
We carried the stuff from the main dump to the church & the parachutes to the moongate.
Mr. Waters gave chocolate to the children who happened to be near the church. I got a good lot.
The ladies opened the broken fruit tins & we had it for supper.
The services had to be in 35 because the church was full of stuff.
De: "Joyce
Cook" <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: calling cards,
Date: jeudi 25
octobre 2007 4:33
Dear Ex-Weihsieners in
This appears to be what is happening (or
not) about Lucy Lu's visit to
----- Original
Message -----
From: Pander
To: Joyce
Bradbury- Cook
Cc: Zandy ;
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 7:55 PM
Subject: calling cards,
Dear Joyce,
I read on Topica that you were waiting for
the Weifang TV-team to come and interview you in
As attachment I thought that you would be interested in their business-cards ---
I also added the few pictures (with the
captions) we took when they came to visit us in
Hope all's OK in
Leopold
De:
"Alexander Strangman" <dzijen@bigpond.net.au>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Peter's diary!
Date: jeudi 25
octobre 2007 8:08
To Peter Bazire,
It has been a real joy to read those pages, from the diary of a young teenager (in his own words) as he saw those events of his day unfold, step by step!
It 'brings home' to me the sad reality, when recalling my 930 odd days at Weihsien, how much of the simple details of my daily routine I've actually clean forgotten!
We were warned early of the risks of 'taking an unboiled drink' from those deadly wells!...........So, what did I do to quench my thirst on some of those hot days?
During some of those pumping sessions or through the non stop exertions of the soccer or hockey games............. I 'ran on dry' there, obviously?
There weren't many taps with running water 'dotted' around the compound, either..........so, where did we wash our hands through the day? Did we use soap? I'm damned if I can remember!
Why didn't I also (or even more of us) think of recording some of the (at least) notable happenings in our daily 'camp' existence ? We would have had many more accurate stories to add to our interesting "Days of Internment" saga!
So if you have got more to share, I for one would certainly enjoy reading them!
Keep up the good work, Peter.
Zandy
De: "Joyce
Cook" <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Peter's diary!
Date: jeudi 25
octobre 2007 9:44
I remember Sunlight soap (one cake per
month, correct me if I am wrong about the quantity issued) for everything but I
used Lysol to clean the lavatories which was my first job when I turned 14. I
do like the diary entries and I hope they keep on coming. I kept an autograph
book with many signatures and comments of internees and of a lot of nuns and
priests that I still have. I also have all of the rescuing parachutists'
autographs and the signature of John A. Wagoner, Captpc (sic) (parachute
corps?) but I do not remember who he was although he signed with the
parachutists. Can anyone identify this
person? Incidentally Sunlight soap can still be bought in
De: "David
Birch" <gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Peter's diary!
Date: vendredi 26
octobre 2007 0:19
Thank you to Peter, Joyce and Zandy for the wonderful (and valuable) reminiscing about those amazing days of long ago - over 60 years now!
Peter, who encouraged you to keep that
marvelous diary? They deserve a Nobel Prize for something - and that's for
certain! Another young lad who kept some
remarkably detailed records of those incredible days was David Allen. David and
his wife Dorothy (not an internee) live about an hour and a half's drive from
our home in
I have a few copies of letters I wrote home to my parents. I will dig them out some day soon and type them out so that you can enjoy my memories too. I recollect writing about my thirteenth birthday and that my little brother John gave me a chrysalis for a present - we savoured the very little things more than many of today's kids savour their lavish and expensive gifts I believe!
So interesting, Joyce, to learn of your increased responsibilities upon turning fourteen! Wow! Scrubbing toilets with lysol: what a great privilege to look forward to upon completion of your second "cycle of seven years!"
I did not turn fourteen until November 25, 1945 - so I was home on the farm in the Fraser Valley of British Columbia then. But I will say that I was milking the cows and shovelling out their crap (literally tons of it) when I became a fourteen-year-old!
Maybe one of the reasons some of us boarding school kids can remember some things more clearly was the very fact that we were required by our teachers to write a letter home faithfully every month. Zandy and Joyce you would have had your parents with you and not have needed to write letters home. Peter's parents, of course, were in the camp with him, but I think one or both of them must have inspired Peter to keep that wonderful diary of his!
Warmest greetings to all of you! And thanks again, Peter, Joyce and Zandy for sharing those very special memories!
Oh yes, Joyce, it seems that the Sunlight laundry soap of long ago has become Sunlight laundry detergent today, at least in my neck of the woods!
Away back in Chefoo I recall learning an irreverent little song (carol) that went like this:
While shepherds washed their socks by night
All seated round the tub,
A bar of Sunlight soap came down,
And they began to scrub!
David
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Peter Bazire's diary ---
Date: vendredi 26
octobre 2007 9:38
Hello,
From Peter's previous text, I was not too sure about a few abreviations so I asked Peter: ---
and here is his reply:
Dear Leopold,
Thanks for two emails.
1) I am sure K1 stands for Kitchen 1.
2) I really don't know what PW stands for in the sentence. "Prison War"? I doubt it, but what?? Perhaps a 'Topica' reader might suggest the likely words!
3) I'm sure 35 means Block 35.
Can somebody help for "PW"?
I shall add links to all these abreviations and they should come out as postits ----
---
Here is Peter's latest add --- with more to come :-))
Best regards,
Leopold
PS, Joyce Bardury has just given me permission to link her book on the Weihsien-paintings-web-site --- go to:
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/books/ForgivenForgotten/Book/TableContents.htm
---
September 3rd Monday,
Nothing much.
September 4th Tuesday,
Parachute suvenires (sic) were given out after the words, 'DROP HERE' had been made.
September 5th Wednesday,
September 6th Thursday,
We are now allowed to walk around camp in market hours (10.00 – 11.30 a.m. + 3.00 – 4.00 p.m.) a few hundred yards from the outer boundaries all the way round.
Friday September 7th
In the afternoon Trickey and I went for a walk. We went north then went to a village and then followed the steam home.
Saturday September 8th
The second day the planes came was 6 days after the first so people think that today, being 6 days from the first, the planes might come.
Trickey, I and Candlin went for a walk around camp keeping about 400 yards off. When we had almost completed our circle, about 11.20, we heard and saw a B-29 coming over the camp. We were told before we left that if they came we would have to come in so we did.
I hung around the gate until a good deal of the stuff was dropped. There were a lot of American soldiers guarding the stuff. When the planes had finished, we went out & brought the stuff in. There was very little bust but people opened fruit tins.
In the afternoon another B-29 came over and dropped some stuff & then another one came about 20 mins. after the first one left.
It was darkly painted underneath. It also dropped & I helped bring in the stuff. We got some chocolate & ½ tin of grapefruit for it.
A small 1-engine Jap plane flew over – very small compared with the B-29's. These B-29's were from the Marians.
Sunday September 9th
In the afternoon 1 B-29 came over & dropped its parachutes about 2 ½ miles from camp to the N.E. People ram out there & came back by cart to the S of the camp & then west & then came down the main road. Only 2 didn't have parachutes.
I was sent, before the plane dropped the second lot, to get a red & a yellow parachute. But the plane dropped the second lot before we had finished spreading the yellow parachute out in the field.
A C-47 came in the afternoon.
Monday September 10th
J. Taylor left in the morning at about 8.30. Also 2 preps, D. Allan & P. Grant. 6 in all. I watched the plane from the tower go away.
Tuesday September 11th
In the morning at about 10.00 G. Andrews & I went down stream but at about 10.45 we heard a plane & decided t go to the airport. We went by the main road & came back through the fields. We came to the beginning of the runaway but there was no plane so we came back.
We jumped the ditch W. of 24 & jumped over the wall by the carpenters house. Then we went to the Voyce's for a drink of cold water.
I missed a practice.
In the ――
De: "Dwight
W. Whipple" <thewhipples@comcast.net>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>; <weihsien@topica.com>
Cc: "David
Birch" <gdavidbirch@yahoo.com>
Objet: Re: Peter's diary!
Date: vendredi 26
octobre 2007 22:04
Thanks, David, and the rest of you for sharing memories and journals of our days in Weihsien. I have an entry by my mother in my "baby book" dated July 16, 1943. It is as follows:
"Dwight's 7th Birthday at Weihsien
Concentration Camp (Civil
His presents were:- tooth brush, soap box, cake of toilet soap (Jap.), Rubber ball, Belt (Daddy made from brief-case strap!), Bottle of Ink, Dark glasses, 3 Bottles pop. Favours at the party -- Palm-leaf fans! Home-made ice-cream -- the first in 4 months! (Fish was served for supper, so Daddy got ice & made ice-cream in the Connely's freezer. It was all unexpected.
Additional note: Mrs. Mungeam - small towel & 6 candies; Astrid Danielsen - pencil & candies, Scovil family - Box of colored pencils, McNeil children - Rubber ball, Aunty Lillian - 12 cookies, Uncle Ralph - 10 candies."
So my 7th birthday was well recognized and is still memorable. We were repatriated a couple of months later in September and after two months at sea arrived back in the USA on December 1, 1943, New York, and then on to our family home in Bellingham, Washington the week before Christmas.
~Dwight W. Whipple
De:
"Alexander Strangman" <dzijen@bigpond.net.au>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Peter's diary!
Date: dimanche 28 octobre
2007 21:00
-----
Original Message -----
From: David Birch
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: Peter's
diary!
Thank
you to Peter, Joyce and Zandy for the wonderful (and valuable) reminiscing
about those amazing days of long ago - over 60 years now!
Peter, who encouraged you to keep that marvelous diary? They deserve a Nobel
Prize for something - and that's for certain! Another young lad who kept
some remarkably detailed records of those incredible days was David Allen.
David and his wife Dorothy (not an internee) live about an hour and a half's
drive from our home in
I have a few copies of letters I wrote home to my parents. I will dig them out
some day soon and type them out so that you can enjoy my memories too. Is that a promise?
I
recollect writing about my thirteenth birthday and that my little brother John
gave me a chrysalis for a present - we savoured the very little things more
than many of today's kids savour their lavish and expensive gifts I
believe! Amen!
So interesting, Joyce, to learn of your increased responsibilities upon turning
fourteen! Wow! Scrubbing toilets with lysol: what a great privilege
to look forward to upon completion of your second "cycle of seven
years!"
I did not turn fourteen until November 25, 1945 - Are
you trying to draw our attention there to your, 2 year, bit of
'free-loading' ??? Oooops! so I was home on the farm in the Fraser Valley of British
Columbia then. But I will say that I was milking the cows and shovelling
out their crap (literally tons of it) when I became a fourteen-year-old!
Maybe one of the reasons some of us boarding school kids can remember some
things more clearly was the very fact that we were required by our teachers to
write a letter home faithfully every month. What
sensible teachers, and no "maybe"about it, I think you hit the nail
squarely on the head, David.
Zandy and Joyce you would have had your parents with you true and not have
needed to write letters home. An interesting
statement that opens up a little can of worms.......... I seem to recall the
'postal service'. in camp was rather limited ! ( Perhaps Joyce
may remember the details about that.) And being allowed to send 'a letter',
which was limited in form, in length and censored, didn't mean
it would be delivered. I seem to recall very few my mother
wrote, ever got through!
'A letter home every month'. Umm!
I could be wrong but to me that sounds awfully 'generous' of the
Japs.
Peter's parents, of course, were in the camp with him, but I think
one or both of them must have inspired Peter to keep that wonderful diary of
his! Ordinary writing paper was a scarcity in camp, so we should
be thankful a few like Langdon Gilkey, Peter and David and Co managed
to hold of enough upon which to record their invaluable
memories.
Warmest greetings to all of you! And thanks again, Peter, Joyce and Zandy
for sharing those very special memories! One
little word that really grabbed my attention.............
was where Peter refered to the "Balu" in his
reflections of Sept. 2nd (email 20/10/07).
Many may remember that 'Balu' was Chinese for the
Peter.....you were 'spot on' calling them
communists back in 1945...... "Balu (communists)"
! It's interesting though
that you considered them 'real' comminists back
then, when many saw them as nothing more than just a bunch of
'rag-tag' 'guerrillas', in those days!.
Oh yes, Joyce, it seems that the Sunlight laundry soap of long ago has become
Sunlight laundry detergent today, at least in my neck of the woods!
Away back in Chefoo I recall learning an irreverent little song (carol) that
went like this:
While shepherds washed their socks by night
All seated round the tub,
A bar of Sunlight soap came down,
And they began to scrub!
David
Joyce Cook <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au> wrote:
I
remember Sunlight soap (one cake per month, correct me if I am wrong about the
quantity issued) No argument there,
Joyce. I can't even remember too many isolated 'hand-outs', let
alone regular monthly ones. Come to think of it,
you must be right too........cause there weren't too many of us in
Camp who were unbearably 'On the Nose', as far as I
can remember ! for
everything but I used Lysol to clean the lavatories which was my first job when
I turned 14. I do like the diary entries and I hope they keep on coming. I kept
an autograph book with many signatures and comments of internees and of a lot
of nuns and priests that I still have. I also have all of the rescuing
parachutists' autographs and the signature of John A. Wagoner,
Captpc (sic) (parachute corps?) but I do not remember who he was
although he signed with the parachutists. Can anyone identify
this person? Incidentally Sunlight soap can still be bought in
No offense meant with the cheeky
comments, Zandy
De: "Joyce
Cook" <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Peter's diary!
Date: lundi 29
octobre 2007 0:35
Alexander
Thanks for the interesting comments. I have
no recollection of letter writing because I had, as you say, my parents in camp
with me (and my brother) and therefore no one to write to. All of my good
friends were in camp with us except for my very best friend Licia Pezzini who
was not interned because she was Italian. As a matter of fact her parents were
minding a lot of our silverware and other valuables in their attic and I would
not have wanted to communicate with them for fear of the Japanese being
suspicious of our friendship. Of course that property was returned to us at the
end of the war. As a matter of interest my pop had hidden our jewellery in a
pillowcase secreted under the floorboards of our house that was lived in by
Japanese officers during the occupation. Luckily it was still there when we got
back to the house. Everything else
including the furniture had been sent to
My other girl friend Arianne Cortreal (Portuguese) broke into tears when she first saw me after camp because I was so skinny.
We even recovered my Cocker Spaniel, Sally who was sold by my Russian uncle (not interned because of his nationality) to a German couple. They had re-named her Mutzey which we retained because we did not have the heart to change her name again. Joyce Bradbury.
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: My Weihsien Diary: up to 6th
Oct, 1945
Date: lundi 29
octobre 2007 8:03
Dear all,
--- a message from Peter Bazire for you all ---
Of course, the image-files are not sent with this message (because too big)
I will be getting all that data on the web site -- in Peter's chapter -- asap.
All the best,
Leopold
----- Original
Message -----
From: peter
bazire
To: Leopold
Pander
Sent: Sunday,
October 28, 2007 11:07 PM
Subject: My Weihsien Diary: up to 6th
Oct, 1945
Hullo Leopold,
I wonder if I can trouble you to put the following letter on the "Topica" network. As you will read, there is an unaccountable gap in my diary. The episode at the "secret" airstrip probably occurred during this 'gap' period. Although written now, I think it merits inclusion: after the last entry (Sept 11th) and before the (new) 24th Sept entry. So here goes.
Dear Topica friends,
The installments of my post-war Weihsien diary are coming to an end. There is an unaccountable gap from Wed Sept 12th to Sun, Sept 23rd when there are no entries. I suppose it must have been during these 12 days that Ronnie Masters and I walked south to a little "secret" airstrip a few miles from camp. It took a bit of finding. There were 2 or 3 small Japanese fighter planes and a few pretty tough looking Japanese pilots. We had the nerve to climb up in turns and look into a cockpit.Ronnie, who could speak Japanese, said to me,"Peter, they are discussing whether to shoot us. Come down and we must walk calmly to the woods." (More or less those words.) When out of sight, we ran some way to distance ourselves from them. I vividly remember the sense of relief when our camp came into view.
.....................................................
Dear Topica Friends,
As many of us left Weihsien on Sept 25th to go to Tsingtao (now Qingdao), I thought I would continue the story, sas I saw it, up to Oct 8th, the day we left for Hong Kong. I attach three three pictures my mother painted :
1) The Chinese Market outside the camp.
2) &3): Paintings of the countryside
from the train on the journey from Weihsien to
I could go on to Hong Kong up to our
departure to
To Leopold
I'm not clear about how to send the above. I think the first part should slot into the diary. Sorry to lumber you with extra work, but can you get the 2nd section (letter to Topica, not diary material) to Topica people? I would be really grateful. Again, many many thanks.
Peter
I'll attach 5 here, and another 5 on a fresh email
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: --- from Peter's diary ---
Date: mardi 30
octobre 2007 7:52
September 24th Monday
Raining.
We were told that we wouldn't go because the trucks couldn't take us on account of the roads being extremely muddy from yesterday's dust kicked up. Had to rest to make up for lost sleep (we had to get up at 5.00 am to be in time for breakfast).
September 25th 1945
Got up at 4.45. Prayers at 5.00. Went down
to watch the trucks being loaded with group 1. Collected my luggage & after
breakfast went down to the front gate to wait my turn. Said good-bye to odd
friends including
Because we were the last to get on we were the last to get off which meant that we didn't get off until after dark.
We went in a jeep, the first we had seen. We went at about 45 m.p.h. When we arrived at Edgewater Mansions we were told which room we were in & what sitting. We had a very good supper after which was a dance. My room with 9 others was on the top floor 420. Each room has a small verandah (sic).
September 26th 1945,
Swam in the morning. First time for 3 yrs.
Capt. Bethel of the
September 27th 1945,
An American battle cruiser + 2 destroyers came into the bay. Had a swim & rowed in a small boat which leaked. At 6.00 the Mayor of Tsingtao gave us a talk in the hotel. He hoped that we would get on O.K. etc. a gave us a million dollars + a handkerchief with his name on it. He also promised entertainments. He first read this from a piece of paper in Chinese & then another Chinese interpreted it into English.
September 28th 1945,
In the afternoon went to the
September 29th 1945,
We had a car lent to us, a modern Dodge in
which we went to Iltis huk in. It was a very nice peninsular, well wooded. Dr
Itel gave us petrol. We visited Dr. Itel who had 2 very nice dogs & a few
cats. The
P.S. In the morning from 6 – 7 about 90 Yank fighters buzzed over, some very low & again at midday.
September 30th 1945,
Went to church in our car. A German church with a pipe organ. Hymns too slow. Raining most of the day.
October 1st 1945,
Rainy.
Went to Kokusal opera most of which was uninteresting. There was one part in which a small Chinese acrobat did things such as standing on his hands then feet etc. very quickly. The British sailors & a marine band came & some Yank sailors most of which thought it very funny. I was in a bus & a Chinese got out to crank up & the bus in front backed & hurt him badly on the hand & stomach.
October 2nd 1945,
Went to Iltis huk in our car. Good day; Enjoyed ourselves at the wood on the huk & on the rocks. The water made a deep boom as it went up a cave. In the evening, band from the U.S.S. Alaska played for dance.
October 3rd 1945,
Went in car.
October 4th 1945,
Went to Iltis huk & played a game in which we had to get to the enemy's den. Our side won. We sit at a table & get extra's. Movies in the evening. Listened to music at Itel's.
October 5th 1945,
Col. Weinburg told us that transport were expected on the 7th . Pup went to Hospital with Typhoid. Went to movies.
October 6th 1945,
Went in car to Iltis huk. Met Yim. G. B. & D. S. riding on wrong side of road on bicycles. Planes flying around. Swam as usual. Got in a boat & rowed around with some pieces of wood.
De: "Raymond
Moore" <raym82@hotmail.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: --- from Peter's diary ---
Date: jeudi 1
novembre 2007 4:07
I was very interested in the extract of
Peter's diary especially as it mentions seeing Jessie Andrew as he was leaving
camp. Jessie (about 16 in 1945) and
John (Jnr - 11 as the War ended) who was about my age, were the children of
John and Mary Andrew, and lived in two rooms in block 36, which was one of the
huts not far from Block 23 where we were domiciled. John Senior was my grandmother's (Jessie
[Andrew]
I love reading all the contributions to this network and my brother Frank, who is now living in a flat on our property and who has always been intrigued by his older brother's experience as a prisoner of war, has now also discovered the "Weihsien Paintings" site. He loves it.
I know it is a bit early, but I would like to send my Christmas greetings to you all. (You see, I may not send another contribution before then!)
Ray Moore
Bev & Ray Moore
Phone: (03) 5174 0531
De: "Joyce
Cook" <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: --- from Peter's diary ---
Date: jeudi 1
novembre 2007 7:02
I read with much pleasure Peter's account
of the trip by train from WeiHsien to
Peter mentions a 'very good supper' at the
Edgewater Mansions Hotel, probably the best Hotel in
I shall never forget this most wonderful occasion when we were reminded what life was like before our incarceration.
This was, as far as I know, arranged and paid for by United States Military Authorities and it was a wonderful welcome home.
During this time we were wearing our usual clothing, mainly consisting
of US Military garments obtained in camp. I still have my signed authority to
wear US military clothing subsequently obtained in
I felt like the cat's whiskers as by then I
was regaining weight and was almost 18 years of age. Thereafter I was always
well dressed as some Red Cross Nurses with whom I was working gave me their
civilian clothes as they were returning to the
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: Last installment of my Weihsien
diary
Date: samedi 3
novembre 2007 8:01
----- Original
Message -----
From: peter
bazire
To: Leopold
Pander
Sent: Friday,
November 02, 2007 10:57 PM
Subject: Last installment of my Weihsien
diary
Dear Leopold,
I have decided to bring my diary story to
an end with the day we left
Dear Topica friends,
This is where I would like to end the
installments of my "Weihsien" diary on 'Topica': the day many of us
set sail from Tsingtao (now
None of this would have appeared on 'Topica' without the time and skill of Leopold, to whom I am so grateful. His patience and advice throughout, quite simply, have made all the difference. Many thanks Leopold!
Best wishes,
Peter
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Peter's diary --- leaving
Date: samedi 3
novembre 2007 15:58
Dear all,
--- Just finished the last corrections with Peter. ---
Is has been a real pleasure for me to re-type all those pages Peter sent to me by e-mail. It was rather easy in fact. Peter took close-up snapshots of the pages with his digital camera and sent the image files to me --- exactly as they were stocked in his digital camera.
David Birch, you recently wrote to Topica that you had the same kind of data in your possession. Could you try and take two or three snapshots of those pages and send them to me --- I would be very honoured if you could trust me in doing the same work as I did for Peter. I think it interesting to confront as many different point of views as possible of our Weihsien episode. There are already a few diary extracts in Norman Cliff's chapter ----
Joyce, you mentioned photos --- I'd gladly add those too for the Weihsien-paintings web-site --- with the captions ---
In the last photos Pamela sent my way, there was a photo with Mr. & Mrs. Dean --- http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/PamelaMasters/Photos/p_02.htm Father Hanquet remembers Mrs. Dean ---- she came twice a week in Block-56 --- she was a physiotherapist and came to help Father deJaegher who had problems with his legs ---
Best regards,
Leopold
------
--- from Peter Bazire --- the last part of his Weihsien-diary
Sunday, October 7th 1945,
Transports came.
1345 lined up & we waited for our turn in the busses. Had Nos. given to us. Said good-bye to Mrs. Itel & her two dogs. British band played at dock. Went to our ship at 16.00. Waited for an hour & then went to our hold. 4 tiers of bunks. Me 3rd . Good grub – too rich. Saw 'Babes of Swing street' for the second time.
October 8th 1945,
Went all over the ship & got used to
the ins & outs. Watched an obstacle race between a couple of sailors on the
dock. Left at 16.00 with a D.E. in front of us and the 'Bermuda' behind which
went to
De:
<grannydavies@aol.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Fw: Last installment of my Weihsien
diary
Date: dimanche 4
novembre 2007 0:17
Did not get the last installment of Weihsien Peers diary Phyllis
Grannydavie@AOL.com
De: "Natasha
Petersen" <np57@cox.net>
À:
"weihsien" <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Barbara Barnes
Date: dimanche 4
novembre 2007 21:03
Barbara Gladys
(Barnes) Thirtle, 78, of Gates, N.Y., died Tuesday, October 23, 2007, at
Born February 17, 1929, in
Barbara was educated in parochial schools in
She met and became engaged to Stephen Thirtle, a Royal Air Force
officer, aboard a steamship returning to
She first immigrated to Montreal, Canada, and eventually to the United States living in Buffalo, N.Y., Huntington and Monroe, Conn., Shickshinny, and recently had relocated to the Seabury Woods Senior Living Community in Gates, N.Y.
Barbara was active in the Episcopal Church and held the position of
Altar Guild directress at St. Peter's in
She and her husband, Stephen, enjoyed singing in a choral group in
Barbara and Steve truly enjoyed their retirement years at their Rolling Hills Farm in Shickshinny.
Barbara was an avid gardener, a wonderful writer, a beautiful knitter and an exceptional hostess.
Barbara was preceded in death by her husband of 55 years, Steve, who died in 2002.
She is survived by her daughters, Barbara Ann Teti, of Tonawanda, N.Y., Susan Elizabeth Dunleavey, of Gouldsboro, Maine, Sylvia Marie Ludden, of Pittsford, N.Y., and Wendy Kathryn Swanson, of Palo Alto, Calif.; nine grandchildren.
A private memorial service in St. Gabriel's Episcopal Church, Sugarloaf,
will be planned at the convenience of the family. There will be no visitation.
The McMichael Funeral Home Inc.,
Published in the Times Leader on 11/4/2007.
De:
<grannydavies@aol.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Barbara Barnes
Date: lundi 5
novembre 2007 0:23
Barbara Barnes , we went to school in
De: "Gay Talbot
Stratford" <stillbrk@eagle.ca>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Barbara Barnes
Date: mardi 6
novembre 2007 21:40
Natasha,
Many thanks for the death notice for
Barbara Barnes. Early in the 1940s, she was in
Gay (Talbot)
De:
"Alexander Strangman" <dzijen@bigpond.net.au>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: weihsien
Date: dimanche 11
novembre 2007 2:18
Thanks Joyce , Natasha and Leopold for your concern. Yes, I did the 'blank email thing' etc......and obviously it must have worked seeing I received these Weihsien messages, below.
By the way, that was quite an impressive obituary on Barbara Thirtle (Nee Barnes) which sent my memory recall mode into instant action, but so far nothing much has materialized. I can't picture her at all from our camp days even though we share a starting point, 1929. Her brother's initials are BD but I can't recall his name even though we must have rubbed shoulders on the sports field many times. It's frustrating! How's your recall there, Joyce and Natasha? Hope it's better than mine.
All the best, Zandy
----- Original Message -----
From: Joyce Cook
To: weihsien@topica.com
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 11:09 AM
Subject: Fw: weihsien
I think Zandy is back on now. Joyce.
----- Original Message -----
From: Natasha Petersen
To: Bradbury, Joyce
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 8:38 AM
Subject: weihsien
Dear Joyce,
You wrote that Zandy is off the listing. Please let him know that he needs to send a blank e-mail to:
weihsien-subscribe@topica.com I have his old email address, and it does not work. If this does not work, please let me know.
Regards,
Natasha
De: "Joyce
Cook" <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: weihsien
Date: dimanche 11
novembre 2007 3:56
Glad you are o.k.Sandy. I do not remember the name Barbara Barnes or
person at all. Joyce.
De: "Alexander
Strangman" <dzijen@bigpond.net.au>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: weihsien
Date: lundi 12
novembre 2007 8:19
Thanks for such a prompt reply Joyce but I have to say it was a bit of a 'let down', as I was counting on you remembering them and getting a pretty good description on one of them at least. Oh well, it just goes to show we had a bigger 'little camp' than we realized, and after all it was a long time ago, eh?
Cheers, Zandy
De:
"Alexander Strangman" <dzijen@bigpond.net.au>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Barbara Gladys Barnes
Date: lundi 12
novembre 2007 9:35
Hi Fred,
Nice to hear from you with your interesting little contribution and I'm not surprised you knew Lawson as you must have both been in the same age group.
I can solve the small mystery simply by telling you I'm still relying on the old typed copy off the original listing (which had the missing page 28) where some guess work comes into reading some of it. And I miss read the L.D. as B.D., so L for Lawson must be right but I must confess Lawson Barnes was not as well know to me as Stanley Fairchild or Michael Calvert, but these days I can no longer put a face on any of them. Hope that clears it up for you.
Now regarding the question of whether he is still alive, well, your guess is as good as mine. And from the 'silence', I'd say no one else on this chat list has anything else for you. Try the one we usually can fall back on............ Des Power.
By the way, as one of the first into camp, do you recall the artistic little signs that were displayed at some of the wells ?
The one I saw was over the covered well located near block 3 or 4. warning against drinking it's water unboiled. I've never forgotten it because it was such a colourful work of art, consisting of an eye catching Walt Disney type painted character listing the wogs that could kill you. ie: Cholera and others were named.
I came across it in one of my first camp 'exploration' ventures, either day one or day two in camp, and never found out who the artist was or anyone who remember it.
I put 'feelers' out on it a few years ago, before you came on line, I think?
Cheers, Zandy
----- Original
Message -----
From: Fred & Coral Dreggs
To: Ex Internees
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 5:21 PM
Subject: Barbara Gladys Barnes
Hi Zandy,
Can
you solve a small mystery for me concerning Barbara's brother whose name you
recall only as BD. From my Weihsien List it shows her brother (born in 1926) as
Lawson Davey Barnes , both sharing the same room in camp. The reason that I am
asking is that Lawson was a great friend of mine.We travelled together to
That was the last time I heard from him. I wonder if he is still alive. Does anyone remember him from all those years ago?
Perhaps, Zandy, the brother's, initials were reversed which would make him Davey Barnes. But I doubt that .
Regards
Fred
De: "
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Weihsien Lists.
Date: lundi 12
novembre 2007 10:33
JUst to remind folks the list with opage 28 and the end of the last page missing was dated Jun I have the complete September edition and this has been incorparted in the web site.
RGds
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: web site in
Date: lundi 12
novembre 2007 11:57
Dear Miss Lucy Lu,
By the Google statistics I have for the
Weihsien-Paintings-Web-site I don't have a single visit coming from
Could you confirm this guess?
Is my website censored? Why?
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org
Is there an explanation?
---
Best regards,
Leopold
De: "Albert de
Zutter" <albertarthur@sbcglobal.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Fw: Weihsien Lists.
Date: lundi 12
novembre 2007 18:57
Leopold and Ron,
I clicked on the link you provided (Leopold) and it brought up the incomplete list that doesn't contain the de Zutter names.
Albert de Zutter
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald
Menzi
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: web site in
Leopold,
I have found
that my family web site is also blocked in
Let me know
what you find out.
Don
De: "Buddy
Graant" <jlgrant@sympatico.ca>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Fw: Weihsien Lists.
Date: mardi 13
novembre 2007 5:01
Albert,
If you check the list for "Zutter de" you will find that it is included.
Buddy Grant
De: "Joyce
Cook" <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: weihsien
Date: mardi 13
novembre 2007 7:37
Zandy. Sorry but it was indeed a big camp. Good luck. Joyce.
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Fw: Weihsien Lists.
Date: mardi 13
novembre 2007 8:02
Dear Albert,
Try this:
Once you are in the list --- after having clicked on the link of the previous message ---
Use the combination key (Ctrl-F) = "F" for "find"
In the little menu that will appear on your screen --- write "zutter" --- and press "Enter"
----
In fact, the de Zutter familly is at the end of the list with the letter "Z" ----
---
Hope you manage ---
Bien amicalement,
Leopold
De: "
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Fw: Weihsien Lists.
Date: mardi 13
novembre 2007 15:29
Names like yours appear under Z for Zutter,
withname de after a comma ie Zutter, de.
Took an early decsion with compiling my lists that as some lists had them under
one letter ie D others under Z. Do not take it personally but it occurs with
other names used waht is know in the
Sorry if it comnfused you.
Rgds
Ron
De: "Donald
Menzi" <dmenzi@earthlink.net>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Updated Weihsien
Date: mardi 13
novembre 2007 15:44
Dear Lucy,
Did the CD that I sent you ever arrive, and are you able to use the material that it contains?
Best wishes on your project.
Donald Menzi
From: peter
bazire
To: Leopold
Pander
Sent: Tuesday,
November 13, 2007 3:31 PM
Subject: Part of speech by Theo Bazire in
Weifang in 1995
Dear Leopold,
Here is an item for 'Topica'
"Fiftieth Anniversary Celebration of VJ Day and the Liberation of Weihsien Civil Assembly Centre held at Weifang on 17 August 1995"
Ex-internee guests were Theo Bazire (died 2002), Estelle Cowley (nee Cliff) and Neil Yorkston. Also present were Estelle's husband Ronald Cowley and two of Neil's daughters: Ruth and Anne. There was an impressive banquet at which speeches were made by all three ex-internees and by Mrs Wang Xiujuan Vice Mayor of Weifanf Municipal People's Government. Here is PART of Theo's speech:
"I wonder if you might permit me just a brief reminiscence to conclude my speech
As schoolchildren in the internment camp,
we were studying for our school-leaving examinations but, of course, our
teachers had no communication with
"In Weihsien camp, however, we did not have the apparatus necessary for the practical aspects of Physics and Chemistry, so our science studies had to be restricted to Biology. To complete our studies of Biology, we had to know how frogs grow and what makes them 'work'; to achieve that, we had to dissect frogs to find out. The problem was that we hadn't any frogs. But then came the answer: the skies opened up down came the rain and up came the frogs - but in the stream outside the camp. So we went to the Japanese and explained that we wanted to go and collect frogs in order to cut them up. They thought this was unnecessarily barbaric but, nevertheless, gave us permission to do so. I was one of the frog-collectors. Eventually we set off -- outside the camp. All was going well until, at one point, we had to cross the stream. The Japanese guard had polished his boots and didn't want to get them dirty, so he handed me his rifle, jumped over the stream and beckoned me to follow. I had no wish to cause trouble, so I waded across --through the cool water--holding the rifle over my head. When I got to the other side I handed the rifle back to the guard--with a grin. When we had finished collecting frogs, we had a lovely swim watched by all our jealous friends on the top floor of the hospital block.Some weeks later, when the Americans, including an Old Boy of our school, arrived by parachute, the laugh was on us because, while the rest of the school was out in the fields gorging on the treasures dropped by parachute, we were indoors doing our final, frantic revision and sitting our examinations. However, it was all worthwhile in the end because we were all successful."
Peter Bazire
De: "Ron
Bridge" <rwbridge@freeuk.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Columbia CC &
Yangtzepu
Date: mardi 13
novembre 2007 18:52
Greg,
Trust that you are well. I have had a query from someone that is trying to find out what happened to her father.
James Robert Canning Manager Moutrie & Co was interned Shnaghai his wife Zenaida tried to get away with two daughters Jeanette and Loretta the only survivor now is Jeanette. The mother would not go back to Shangahi when the Japanese offerd to move them in summer 1942. Canning got involved with Mrs Clare Mahas TAYLOR and they had a son from the dates was prfobably Stanley Gabriel as the only other male Taylor in the Consular archives Colin OA was never recorded in either CCC or Yangtsepu.
She is trying to estbalish where her father
went. I have established that he a did not collect the ex gratia, and no widow
of his collected and he was not in
Jeanette she lives in
At this stage I am fishing if you think you can help I will forward all her e-mails.
Rgds
Ron
Quote
There are several matters that I can give explanation to:
In a letter dated 8/9/45 my Father finally
makes contact with my Mother after many failed attempts and the letter dated
6/12/45 expressing his disappointment that we did not return to
The letter dated 6/12/45 also explained his relationship with a woman he met in the camp and the birth of his son.
The letter dated 2/12/46 mentions that he
could pass through Hongkong on a repatriation boat from
I have also attached copy of a letter from
the British Consulate-General in Shanghai advising that he left Shanghai for
USA in 1948 but letters I have received from the American immigration
department advise me that he did not go to America. Also a letter from someone
who knew my Father who advises through contact with others he knows that my
Father did not return to
In some of the correspondence there is also
information that my Father did return to
It would be nice to track down where my half-brothers and their families.
I also told Maureen about a book I have
read recently and I have tracked down the information about the book I
mentioned ... "Forgiven but not Forgotten" written by Joyce Bradbury
- the camp was Weishin in
I also have copies of a lot of material
that I have donated to the
Thank you ... Jeannette
unquote
-
De: "Albert de
Zutter" <albertarthur@sbcglobal.net>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: RE: Fw: Weihsien Lists.
Date: jeudi 15
novembre 2007 1:38
Thanks to Leopold and Ron, I found our
family's names. As for
Anyway, thanks very much.
Albert de Zutter
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Fw: Jim JWG Bruce
Date: jeudi 22
novembre 2007 9:03
----- Original Message
-----
From: Pander
To:
Morrisjtsc@cs.com ; weihsien@topica.com
Cc: Father
Hanquet c/o Paul-E Lagasse
Sent: Thursday,
November 22, 2007 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: Jim JWG Bruce
Dear John,
Many thanks for your message on my website.
It is always great to read kind messages as the one you just sent to me. Hope you don't mind me transferring it to our Weihsien chat-list --- click here ---: http://lists.topica.com/lists/weihsien/read
The "Internet" made us meet again, more than 60-years after and now we are exchanging our memories about the Weihsien of 1943-45. In fact, the Weihsien-paintings-web-site and the Topica chat list are connected into "one" big marvellous experience.
Best regards,
Leopold
----- Original Message -----
From: Morrisjtsc@cs.com
To: info@weihsien-paintings.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 6:44 PM
Subject:
Jim JWG Bruce
Hello,
This will have to be a brief mail, but I was amazingly surprised, pleased, (and slightly overcome) to find this site. The reason being that Jim Bruce, son of Chefoos School's PA Bruce, taught me (and clearly loads of others) at Stouts Hill Prep School in the UK from 1968-73.
We knew he had been in a camp during the war, but this website makes things all make sense now.
He taught me Geography and English when I was a junior and then Scritpure. I guess I owe 90% of my knowledge of the Bible especially the Old Testament to him (At public school we only studied Mark's Gospel! as that was the O-level syllybus).
He was an incredibly fit man when I knew him, he especially enjoyed running, sliding down steep wet muddy hillsides, climbing (trees) and could swim two lengths of our small school pool underwater without any bother. He would also, unintentionally, attract an audience if he went into the gym and did some stunts on the rings or parallel bars.
His nickname was "Billy-Whizz"
I sensed that he was also a very private man, and perhaps now I can kind of understand why.
The schoolboy rumour was that he had jumpoed the wire of the camp he was in, realised after a while that being outside was a bigger problem than being inside and thus jumped back into the camp again. I now see from his 1985 account that this was almost exactly what happened.
There is some information about
yours
John Morris
De:
<gregleck@epix.net>
À: <weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Weihsien at
Date: vendredi 23
novembre 2007 5:00
Hello All,
For some reason I was booted off the list some time ago and have just re-subscribed.
During my last visit to
Also, I have been still searching for the
August, 1945 film which was reportedly shot at Weihsien. I am convinced that if it survives, it is at
Greg
De: "Pamela
Masters" <pamela@hendersonhouse.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Jim JWG Bruce
Date: samedi 24
novembre 2007 0:03
Dear Leopold --
This is not in response to the above...but the only way I can think of to get hold of you! Every time I send a message to you it comes back with "undeliverable." This is the e-mail address I have for you, is it correct? Leopold Pander E-mail Address(es): pander.nl@skynet.be
Here's why I need to touch base with you: Have you ever received the batch of photos of the Weihsieners I mailed you over a month ago? I copied the address you sent me so carefully, took the package to the post office, and had them weigh and mail it for me. So far I haven't had a word from you...
Kindest regards -- Pamela
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Jim JWG Bruce
Date: samedi 24
novembre 2007 8:44
Dear Pamela,
Hello :-))
I did get your envelope with all the photos and promptly added a chapter to the weihsien-paintings-website the best I could. A new chapter with your name ---
I also sent a message to you confirming that the photos were perfect --- try this link: http://www.weihsien-paintings.org/PamelaMasters/indexFrame.htm --- and asking for critics and suggestions ---
As for my e-mail address --- I already had
that kind of problem with someone else in the
And I shall also send you the previous message which I suppose you didn't get either !!
Hope all's OK on your side of the
All the best,
Leopold
De:
<MTPrevite@aol.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Another recognition for Weihien
liberator Tad Nagaki
Date: mardi 18
décembre 2007 1:51
Tad Nagaki was recently honored in private ceremony by the Mayor of Alliance, Nebraska. State Senator LeRoy Louden followed up with this letter.
If you'd like to mail a holiday greeting to Tad Nagaki, 5851 Logan Road, Alliance, NE, USA 69301 I know the other survivor of the team that liberated Weihsien would also appreciate a holidqay card: Send to James J.
Hannon,
P. O
Mary Previtwe
December 10, 2007
Mr. Tad Nagaki
Dear Mr. Nagaki:
Congratulations on the recent acknowledgment
of your service to our country in World War II. You and your fellow soldiers
who helped to liberate the Allied civilian prisoners in the Weihsien
concentration camp in
Sincerely,
LeRoy J. Louden, Senator
District 49
LJL:crl
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Another recognition for Weihien
liberator Tad Nagaki
Date: mardi 18
décembre 2007 16:56
Dear Mary,
Thanks very much for sending me the photos for the Weihsien website. I will get them "on" asap and let you know. Could you also send me a copy of the text under the photo represented in your pictures. Could I have a little more info about the museum --- how to get there? --- do they have a website? ---
They really were Seven Magnificent Men --- they still are and always will be --- for us ---
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to All ---
Best regards,
Leopold
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Another recognition for Weihien
liberator Tad Nagaki
Date: mercredi 19
décembre 2007 11:43
Dear All :-))
Don't worry about the text and the
Let me know if everything is OK?
Best regards,
Leopold
De:
<MTPrevite@aol.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Another recognition for Weihien
liberator Tad Nagaki
Date: jeudi 20
décembre 2007 22:46
Leopold:
I'll try to get more information about the
museum in
Would you clarify what picture caption you need? Last night, I sent a picture caption along with the photos of Tad Nagaki. Is there another picture caption you need?
Mary
De:
<MTPrevite@aol.com>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Another recognition for Weihien
liberator Tad Nagaki
Date: vendredi 21
décembre 2007 16:37
What a BEAUTIFL formatting of this tribute, Leopold. Well done! I wish
Tad used the computer so he could enjoy this. I think I'll mail him the site of the web site so he can view it with one of his nieces or nephews. I know hewould be pleased.
Thank you so very much, Leopold. What a gift you give to all of us!
Happy Christmas.
Mary Previte
De: "Gay
Talbot Stratford" <stillbrk@eagle.ca>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Merry Christmas
Date: samedi 22
décembre 2007 20:02
To all weihsienites: may the season be full of joy, and may the new year bring happiness. How fortunate we all are.
With good wishes from Gay Stratford(nee Talbot)
De: "Joyce
Cook" <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Date: dimanche 23
décembre 2007 0:51
I too wish all WeiHsieners the very best for Christmas and a Happy New Year. Joyce Bradbury.
De: "Joyce
Cook" <bobjoyce@tpg.com.au>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Objet: Re: Wei'Hsien
concentration camp
Date: jeudi 10
janvier 2008 1:47
Regarding Terri K's email about WeiHsien
camp. I sure did know Alice Moore. She was the Principal of the
American High School at the time of her
internment and she opened and conducted the school in the camp. She had short
grey hair, horn rimmed spectacles and was quite slim. In her early sixties. She
was one of my school teachers in the camp. She also as Principal signed my
Diploma issued by the
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald Menzi
To: Terri Stewart
Cc: weihsien
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: Wei'Hsien concentration camp
Welcome aboard, Terri,
One
of the names of your grandmother's friends, "Helen Burton" rang a
bell for me. She was apparently a very
interesting woman, so being her friend reflects well on your great aunt. Before being interned she had owned a shop in
Peking called "The Camel's
If you go to my "family" website you can find a picture of Helen Burton reading a letter informing her that her brother had died. You can find it by going to http://d.menzi.org (no www), then clicking on "Gripsholm" and then on "Life Magazine." She's on the 9th page. You'll also find a painting of the "White Elephant's Bell," a barter/exchange shop that she ran in the camp, by clicking on the "Weihsien" slide show, which is a "walking tour" of the camp, based on paintings and sketches done by inmates. Be sure to have your sound turned on to get the musical background.
Best wishes for a satisfying 2008.
Donald Menzi
-----Original Message-----
From: Terri Stewart
Sent: Jan 6, 2008 11:52 PM
To: dmenzi@earthlink.net
Subject: Wei'Hsien concentration camp
Hi!
I've only recently (two weeks ago) came into possession of my Great
Aunt's letters and diary accounts from 1948-52. Much of it was about
post-Weishsien and her life in Peiping, but several letters and entries came
from various friends that also were in the camp and continued to live in
My Aunt's name: Ruth H. Kunkel,
an American teacher & nurse from
Date of birth: Feb 27 (not sure what year)
Her constant friends: Alice Moore, also a teacher & nurse from
Helen
Burton,
Both Ruth & Alice taught at the
I
would appreciate any info that you or others can pass on. Half of her original diary
has gone missing (in
I'm not sure about that and there is no one left (old enough) to ask. Somewhere in all of this stuff - my mother and I are still going through a lot of mixed up family notes (!) - are pictures of Ruth during some of these years. Many were eaten up by bugs so I'm not sure what has survived at this point.
I hope to hear from you?
Sincerely,
Terri K. (Reagle) Stewart
tksweaver@verizon.net
PS: Aunt Ruth and I share the same date of birth - Feb 27th.
De:
"Tapol" <tapol@skynet.be>
À:
<weihsien@topica.com>
Cc: "Anne de
Saint Hubert" <annando@beeb.net>
Objet: Re: Helen Burton letter
Date: jeudi 10
janvier 2008 8:32
Hello,
Yes!
I'd gladly add all intersting data about our days in Weihsien Concentration Camp. It is interesting to confront personal impressions about the camp in those days. There are quite a few interesting diary extracts in Norman Cliff's chapter --- Peter Bazire recently sent to me the adventures of a 13 year old boy upon liberation --- and many others in the website. Even books --- some recopied in whole and readable (printable) as e-books. I hope that my sister will write someday about the experiences of a seven year old girl in camp and we are scheduled to have some extracts of Christian de Saint Hubert's diary this year ---
Best regards,
Leopold
http://www.weihsien-paintings.org