Re: [weihsien_camp] Chefoo and Weihsien

Hi Brian

I am baffled by the Google picture because it looks like the coed with pieces added on to it and the prep school and memorial hall are gone. So I have been going over the pictures from 2005 and getting my son to show me how to send them to you. As they will have to be labelled. 2005 was the only time we got in to them and the guide took us in from Erma Loo(sp) I 2010 or was it 2011 we could not get in but the Prep school and Memorial Hall were still there. In the Google picture there are a couple of houses that were probably from our era and look like staff homes.Our house was attached to,Coed . It was cot off by 2005 but was there in 1988. The road at the back Of the Google picture is Erma Loo I think. You will see lots of foreign buildings at the other end of the Bund including what they tell you is the Union Church Would you remember marching there every Sunday or perhaps the Prep School didn't go. When my sister and I were there in 1988 Chefoo looked almost as we remembered it and we could find our own way to the Union Church and suddenly realized it was the date our parents had got married in the church 67 years before

I am going to give you the email for the guide service that took us around on 3 of our visits
jeffliu3@yahoo.com.cn

Our son is just going away on holidays so it might be a month before I get them to you

Maida Harris Campbell

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Sun, 7 Jun 2015 at 20:22

[weihsien_camp] Chefoo and Weihsien

Hi Maida,

The image I sent you was taken off Google Earth today, and is dated 2015.

Yes, Joyce still finds those days in camp hard to talk about. I think for both of us one of the worst consequences was the loss of a proper loving relationship with our parents. We were reunited after 5 years to meet a younger sister and brother, and parents we hardly knew! I am now very open to learning more about the Chefoo and Weihsien days, and am excited to be revisiting for the first time in August. I would love to see the attic room in the hospital which I shared with John Hoyte and Theo Welch.

Kind regards,
Brian

Roy Campbell roy.campbell79@gmail.com [weihsien_camp]
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Sun, 7 Jun 2015 at 18:23

Re: [weihsien_camp] Cheroot Schools

Hi Brian

I am having real trouble with the Google picture.Do you know when it was taken? The main building looks like the Coed but isn't quite as we saw it in 2010. Memorial Hall which was beside it on the left seems to have disappeared and so has the Prep school which should have been behind it. I do see the road behind the compound which should be Erma Lu.I am going to send you Jeffs email. I thing he will remember the Campbell's visiting.

We came to Canada after the war and lived in Toronto till I was married in 1958 and have lived in Prince Edward Island since then. I was sad to read Joyce's account of how it was for her in and after camp.As you may or may not know my parents the Harrises taught at Chefoo so even in camp I lived at home but I know things were not easy both in camp and later for those separated from their parents. Say hello to Joyce for me

Maida Harris Campbell

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Brian Kerry brian.a.kerry@sky.com [weihsien_camp]
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Sun, 7 Jun 2015 at 17:07
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[weihsien_camp] Cheroot Schools [1 Attachment]

Hello Maida,

Thank you for your detailed response to my enquiry. It was very helpful. I wonder if you could do one more thing for me. I am attaching a Google Earth image of the old school site, with grid references in the margins. If you can still recognise any original buildings would you please tell me which each one is, and it's grid reference. Thank you so much!

Yes, I am Joyce's brother. She is two years older than me and keeping pretty well. Joyce and her husband Arthur live in Hollywood - don't get excited - south Birmingham, and are due to move into a new retirement complex in about September in the Bourneville area of Birmingham.

My wife Ruth and I live in Rayleigh, about 35 miles east of London. Where do you live, Maida?

With kind regards,
Brian

Mary Previte mtprevite@aol.com [weihsien_camp]
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Sat, 6 Jun 2015 at 02:22

Re: [weihsien_camp] 2015 Anniversary Events

No. I'm not able to do that.

I urge you ask Ian Grant, who produces the Chefoo Magazine. I believe Ian took a Chefoo tour group more recently. Ian may be able to help you.

Roy Campbell roy.campbell79@gmail.com [weihsien_camp]
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Sat, 6 Jun 2015 at 00:55

Re: [weihsien_camp] 2015 Anniversary Events

My husband and I visited 4 times 1988 2005 2006 and again in about 2011 and he in 1988 and 2011 like Mary Previte we were in the Prep school in 2005 but we're not allowed in the other times. The only buildings left are the Coed minus the attachment where my family lived the prep school and Memorial Hall It is possible that there are some staff houses but we could not identify them. The Boys school burnt down in the Japanese era and the girls school was still there in 1988 The road still called Erma Loo or mule road to us ran directly behind the compound and is still there. The Coed is very obvious from the main road but you have to go up the side road to see Memorial Hall and the Prep school The attached passageway from Memorial Hall to the Coed was gone. I think you are Joyce Kerry's brother and I am a year older than Joyce. The beach across from our compound is still there but much expanded. I will see if I can find the email address of the people that took us around. The buildings were not used any time we were there so I don't know why it is all a secret to go in to the buildings.

Maida Harris Campbell

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Brian Kerry brian.a.kerry@sky.com [weihsien_camp]
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Fri, 5 Jun 2015 at 22:51

Re: [weihsien_camp] 2015 Anniversary Events

Thanks, Mary,

Are you able to send me a sketch showing the relative positions of the original CIM buildings, and do you know anyone who has visited recently who can say which buildings still exist?

Brian

Mary Previte mtprevite@aol.com [weihsien_camp]
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Fri, 5 Jun 2015 at 22:02

Re: [weihsien_camp] 2015 Anniversary Events

Brian,

When our Chefoo School group visited Yantai in 2005, we used as very helpful, local tour guide who successfully got us permission to enter the Chefoo School compound and even enter the Memorial Hall as well as the Prep School building.

What a wonderful experience!
Mary Taylor Previte

Brian Kerry brian.a.kerry@sky.com [weihsien_camp]
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Fri, 5 Jun 2015 at 20:19
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Re: [weihsien_camp] 2015 Anniversary Events [2 Attachments]

Thank you, Leopold.

Further searching on the Internet has provided the answer to my question regarding the location of the Chefoo Schools compound, and the Temple Hill internment camp. I am posting the details in case anyone is planning to visit Yantai.

The key was in this 1924 map of Che-foo (sic) produced by Japanese Railways.



The next picture from Google Earth shows the approximate coverage of the 1924 map, together with rough locations for the CIM Schools and Temple Hill. There is still a hospital at Temple Hill, I wonder if that stands where the American Presbyterian hospital was, close to our compounds.



I hope this information will be of use to other visitors to Yantai.

Best regards,
Brian

'Tapol' leopoldpander@yahoo.com [weihsien_camp]
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Fri, 5 Jun 2015 at 08:08

Re: [weihsien_camp] 2015 Anniversary Events

Dear Brian and Brian,

I confirm that there is nothing as to the exact location of the Chefoo school on the Weihsien-Paintings’ website.

Best regards,
Leopold

Brian Butcher bdbutcher@telus.net [weihsien_camp]
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Fri, 5 Jun 2015 at 05:46

Re: [weihsien_camp] 2015 Anniversary Events

Hello,

Thanks for the email. I was confused since I thought you were talking about the camp site. Since I never attended the school, I cannot answer your question.

Good luck with your quest. Mary Previte might know more about the location of the school.

Brian

Brian Kerry brian.a.kerry@sky.com [weihsien_camp]
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Thu, 4 Jun 2015 at 23:10

Re: [weihsien_camp] Re: 2015 Anniversary Events

Hello Brian,

Thank you for your reply. My particular interest is in locating the old Chefoo Schools site, and the Temple Hill area in Chefoo (Yantai). Although I have enjoyed browsing the Weihsien-paintings web site, I have not found any maps of Chefoo to answer my need. Can you direct me to the specific section of this web site that contains this information?

Your comments on independent travel in China are very reassuring.

Kind regards,
Brian Kerry

brianbutcher60@yahoo.com [weihsien_camp]
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Thu, 4 Jun 2015 at 20:57

[weihsien_camp] Re: 2015 Anniversary Events

Hello Brian,

The location information can be found on the Weihsien website which includes maps. The site is easy to find.

Travel in China is easy. I just returned from Shanghai and the airpotys all have english and one can travel easily from place to place. You will probably fly into Pudong Airport and the folks there will help you find your connecting flight or train. Of course, you will need a tourist visa.

Hope this helps.
Brian Butcher

'Brian Kerry' brian.a.kerry@sky.com [weihsien_camp]
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Tue, 2 Jun 2015 at 14:23

[weihsien_camp] 2015 Anniversary Events

Greetings Weihsieners, and in particular Old Chefusians,

I wonder how many of you I shall meet at Weifang in August?

Together with a small family group I am planning to also visit Yantai and Qingdao , and this is where I would like some help.

1. Can anyone help me locate the exact site of the CIM Schools compound, and also the approximate location of the Temple Hill compounds? I attach a screenshot from Google Earth in which I have circled a building which I believe must be where the original Boys’ School stood – am I correct? If not, can you redirect me?





2. Has anyone got a sketch/map/plan of the original CIM compound showing the location of the original buildings? Are any of these still in existance?

3. Has anyone recently travelled in China as an independent traveller – can one get from city to city by plane and train without the assistance of an English-speaking guide?

Any help will be very much appreciated! Hope to meet some of you soon.

Best regards,
Brian Kerry

Mary Previte mtprevite@aol.com [weihsien_camp]
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Mon, 1 Jun 2015 at 23:23

[weihsien_camp] Entry Forms to Weihsien Reunion from Sui Shude [1 Attachment]

Begin forwarded message:

> From: 隋
> Subject: Entry Forms to Reunion
> Date: June 1, 2015 2:04:32 PM EDT
> To: "Mary Previte"
>
>

Attached are Entry Forms for Weihsieners to the reunion, in three kinds of nature:
> ENTRY FORM-1: Former Internees to the reunion;
> ENTRY FORM-2: Former internee with family to the reunion;
> ENTRY FORM-3: Former internee's family representing former internee to the reunion;
>
> Hotels are not decided yet.
>
> For other family members (added to the reunion), WPAFFC will help with room and meal bookings at the same hotel with special group prices.
>
> Entry Forms are to be emailed back for bookings and recordings.
>
> Regards , Sui Shude

> E-mail: suishude@126.com > E-mail: suishude@gmail.com > Mobile: +86-13905369362 > Tel/Fax: +86-536-8233692

suishude@126.com [weihsien_camp]
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Mon, 1 Jun 2015 at 16:06

[weihsien_camp] Sui Shude - Notes For Questions to the Reunion:

WPAFFC would cover part of the cost in Weifang for Weihsieners to this reunion, as:

-for each former internee(or each couple) to the reunion: 1 double room, 2 meal coupons;
-for each former internee(or each couple) + family(one) to the reunion: 2 double rooms and 4 meal coupons.
-for family(one) representing each former internee(or each couple) to the reunion: 1 double room, 2 meal coupons;

Suggested reunion schedule could be: pm 16th to am 19th.
Free bus pick-ups from and to Qingdao Airport , Weifang Airport , and Weifang Railway Station.
Regards---

Covered rooms and meals are aimed good from 16th-pm till 19th-am.

Reunion could be scheduled according to suggestions of internees, in general:

17th: visit the Weihsien Camp exhibition,
visit the former Weihsien camp site,
"Enter the Rooms" of the hospital,
curtsey to Eric Liddell's monument,
more...........;

18th: visit and sightseeing in the city of Weifang ;
Suggested arrival for reunion at pm 16th and departure am 19th.
Regards---

Best ways travel to Weifang in China:
From Beijing Capital Airport , can fly by connecting flght to Qingdao Airport (1 hrs), many flights;
From Beijing Nan Railway Station, take high-speed rail train(3 and half hrs), G--trains, good choice.
Note: high-speed rail train tickets should be reserved at least 3 days before.

Regards---