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Estelle Horne estelle.m.horne@gmail.com [weihsien_camp]
To:Weihsien
Mon, 26 Aug 2019 at 14:19
Re: [weihsien_camp] FW: curious about an image

The pins for Weihsien were ordinary safety pins of whatever size we chose; small brass ones or larger steel ones.

Estelle





tapol@skynet.be [weihsien_camp]
To:weihsien_camp@yahoogroups.com
Fri, 23 Aug 2019 at 14:35
RE: [weihsien_camp] FW: curious about an image

My mistake …

In the German Camps, the numbers on the prisoners’ forearms were not burned in “like for the cattle in Texas” but tattooed in a rather brutal manner !

https://fr.euronews.com/2015/01/26/70-ans-liberation-auschwitz-tatouage-pratique-sur-les-deportes-

… you can easily find a confirmation of this horrible manner of rubbing out one’s personality on the “internet”!

Anyway, in our “civilised” world all our personalities are resumed to numbers: passports, identity cards, social security number, driving license, national register and now certain persons are injecting tiny chips (size of a rice grain) between their thumb and index just to open doors, etc.
Even my dog has one of those chips behind the ear!

Best regards,
Leopold (my Christian name and NOT a number … ) !!





Terri Stewart tksweaver@verizon.net [weihsien_camp]
To:weihsien_camp@yahoogroups.com
Fri, 23 Aug 2019 at 04:50
Re: [weihsien_camp] FW: curious about an image

Thank you Estelle & Leopold.

I understand the cloth part of the ID's, I was interested in the image of the pins that had numbers stamped onto them. I was hoping the pins with the cloth ID#'s may have been like those. I appreciate the input!

Terri





Estelle Horne estelle.m.horne@gmail.com [weihsien_camp]
To:Weihsien
Thu, 22 Aug 2019 at 16:15
Re: [weihsien_camp] FW: curious about an image

No the pins were just safety pins of any kind.

The ID consisted of the name: surname and initials, and the Jap stamp of authorisation.
We washed them and the ink faded, we embroidered them and still it faded.
We inked over the original letters.

Estelle (Cliff) Horne





MARY PREVITE mtprevite@aol.com [weihsien_camp]
To:weihsien_camp@yahoogroups.com
Fri, 16 Aug 2019 at 19:13
Re: [weihsien_camp] Membership

Leopold is in charge of all things related to the Weihsiencamp,yahoo group.

Mary

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On Aug 16, 2019, at 11:58 AM, L PR tapol@skynet.be [weihsien_camp] wrote: >

… yes, sure … welcome back 😊

> … all the best,
> Leopold





Alison Holmes aholmes@prescott.edu [weihsien_camp]
To:weihsien_camp@yahoogroups.com
Fri, 16 Aug 2019 at 17:34
[weihsien_camp] Membership

Does this now allow me to be part of the yahoo group?!





MARY PREVITE mtprevite@aol.com [weihsien_camp]
To:weihsien_camp@yahoogroups.com
Thu, 15 Aug 2019 at 22:38
[weihsien_camp] What do you remember of Liberation Day, August 17, 1945?

When I first heard the buzz of an airplane flying over, I was sick on my steamer trunk “bed.”
Diarrhea.
Other children had started school that day. But I was sick. Out the window, I saw parachutes dropping from a low-flying plane. Enough, enough, enough! Instant cure for my diarrhea. I don’t remember now. Had we seen airplanes there before? Hoping to be the first person at the camp gate, I ran. My, oh, my! What bedlam! I think 1,499 prisoners got to the gate first. (There were 1,500 prisoners in the camp.) Weeping, screaming, dancing, I don’t think I had ever seen men rip off their shirts before —waving at the sky! I was a child in a daze.

Weihsien had gone mad!

Days passed. Day and night, we adored those Americans. In the evenings outside the Japanese commandant’s office where the American now stayed, we gathered. We wanted to touch them, listen to them, trail them around, get their autographs, have them sing songs of America. They taught us. I can still sing “You are my sunshine, my only sunshine....”

What do you remember?

Mary Taylor Previte





L PR tapol@skynet.be [weihsien_camp]
To:weihsien_camp@yahoogroups.com
Sat, 10 Aug 2019 at 08:52
[weihsien_camp] FW: curious about an image

Dear Terri,

… all of us in Weihsien had this style of badge. Each person had a personal number besides their Christian and Family name …

I am sending your picture to the Yahoo group …

In the other camps, I guess that the other prisoners had to wear some kind of identification tag. In some of the repatriation ships, they were pins or “rosettes” as we have previously discussed. In the German concentration camps, the prisoners had their numbers directly burned on their forearms just as the Cowboys do in Texas with the cattle.

Maybe someone else in the group will be able to tell you more about the identity tags in the other Japanese Concentration Camps …

Bien amicalement,
Leopold

From: Terri Stewart
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2019 5:21 AM
To: tapol@skynet.be
Subject: curious about an image


Hi Leopold,

I was browsing through the images of the camp when I saw this one from Brian Butcher's collection. This is identified as a badge and the pin is what caught my attention. Were these pins also stamped with the cloth ID number?

Best,
Terri Stewart





Terri Stewart tksweaver@verizon.net [weihsien_camp]
To:weihsien_camp@yahoogroups.com
Sat, 10 Aug 2019 at 00:07
Re: [weihsien_camp] brass safety pins from camp?

Hi Leopold,

I've been reading a lot of the additional material you sent to Mary P., very interesting to read and wish I had done this sooner. I thank you for the links! I am attaching the letters with my corrections as the whoopsies are still there on the website. All corrected words are in blue so they are easy to find. I may have more information for you soon on Ruth's catching up with 'what happened to whom' once she was on board the ships, with many names others may know and may wish to follow up their descendants.

I do know that much of what she tried to mail out of China shortly before being sent to the camp and while there, never made it to the states. She apparently knew Chinese persons that worked various postal locations who mentioned that much mail, packages, journals and the like were either confiscated or burned by the Japanese, hers included. One of the workers saw first-hand one of her packages that included her journals hit the burn pile, despite his effort to move it along to be sent to the U.S. Of course she didn't get this information until she returned to China after the repatriation.

Our family is grateful for the many photo albums that did make it out as well as many of her personal belongings from the 'Palace of Ruth' as Helen Burton put it, of which I have some of those possessions in my home and photos of her home in the Legations Quarters showing those objects. What a pleasure to use and touch these items and to read the letters of her years of the China she so treasured!

Sincerely,
Terri Stewart





MARY PREVITE mtprevite@aol.com [weihsien_camp]
To:weihsien_camp@yahoogroups.com
Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 18:02
Re: [weihsien_camp] brass safety pins from camp?

Absolutely fascinating! What an eye-opener!

Thank you, Leopold.
Mary Taylor Previte

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MARY PREVITE mtprevite@aol.com [weihsien_camp]
To:weihsien_camp@yahoogroups.com
Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 17:45
Re: [weihsien_camp] brass safety pins from camp?

Thank you, Leopold. Yes, I kept up with much of Donald Menzi’s accounts before he died. Donald and his wife were with us for out 2005 reunion at Weifang.

Mary

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L PR tapol@skynet.be [weihsien_camp]
To:weihsien_camp@yahoogroups.com
Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 17:05
RE: [weihsien_camp] brass safety pins from camp?

Dear Mary,

Go to Donald Menzi’s chapter …
Click on the fourth and fifth pictures as well as under the flags under the little video.

http://weihsien-paintings.org/DonMenzi/Gripsholm/LIFE/p_LifeMagazine.html

http://weihsien-paintings.org/DonMenzi/Gripsholm/p_Video_Gripsholm.htm
m/v Gripsholm was a Swedish ship.

Do not hesitate to also click on Donald Menzi’s “scrapbooks” and read Mrs. Wilder’s various texts. Very interesting.

http://weihsien-paintings.org/DonMenzi/ScrapBook/p_HTML5-MainFrame.html

… if you go in the “history” chapter:
http://weihsien-paintings.org/NormanCliff/history/index.php

see the timeline:

On September 15, 1943, the prisoner exchange took place (they left to board the “Teia Maru” after a horrible train journey) and on the same date, the Chefoo kids & staff arrived to take their place.

Greg Leck’s book is always a reference for me.
He is a historian which I am not.

Bien amicalement,
😊
Léopold





MARY PREVITE mtprevite@aol.com [weihsien_camp]
To:weihsien_camp@yahoogroups.com
Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 14:27
Re: [weihsien_camp] brass safety pins from camp?

You’re a genius, Leopold! You’re a blessing for all of us!

I remember that Americans were evacuated from Weihsien only a week or two after our Chefoo School arrived there. Before our arrival there, we had been interned in a Presbyterian missionary compound in the Temple Hill section of Chefoo (now called Yantai).. My, oh, my! In that Temple Hill Compound internment, we had been much, much, much, more crowded —crammed!— than we ever were in Weihsien. In Weihsien, we had space between the steamer trunk “beds” we slept on. In Temple Hill, we slept on overlapping “poogai” on the floor! Not one inch between us!

As I recall, the Americans were evacuated from Weihsien in late September, 1943. Several who had been Chefoo School students were among those evacuated. This group was evacuated on the Gripsholm.

What nationality was the Gripsholm?

Mary Taylor Previte

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L PR tapol@skynet.be [weihsien_camp]
To:weihsien_camp@yahoogroups.com
Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 11:01
RE: [weihsien_camp] brass safety pins from camp?

Dear Terri,

Thanks.
I corrected the texts with my “Antidote” software. An excellent French/English corrector from Canada.

Also had a look in Greg Leck’s book … there is a whole chapter about “repatriations” … so, I took the liberty of adding to your texts:

“If you open Greg Leck's book at page: 284 "Repatriation" he mentions that the selected people for evacuation on the Japanese ships were marked with white or red ribbons. Red for the officials and white for the civilians.

At another page: 290, for the evacuation on board "Tatua Maru", the repatriates were given rosettes to wear in their lapels. This seems to be the case in the above texts”

http://weihsien-paintings.org/TerriStewart/pins/repatriation.htm

If there are any other modifications (?) do let me know 😊

… all the best,
Leopold



Terri Stewart tksweaver@verizon.net [weihsien_camp]
To:weihsien_camp@yahoogroups.com
Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 08:07
Re: [weihsien_camp] brass safety pins from camp?

No problem. I have sent two more letters of info to Leopold so keep an eye out on my 'page' for those. If anyone has information about the Swiss Red Cross arranging prisoner exchanges, I would love to know about it. And if anyone has heard about the numbered pins, I would love to know about those as well. Leopold, do you think there are possible contacts with the Swiss government that might have this information and be willing to share?

Terri Stewart





Audrey Horton raks732@gmail.com [weihsien_camp]
To:weihsien_camp@yahoogroups.com
Mon, 5 Aug 2019 at 16:13
Re: [weihsien_camp] brass safety pins from camp?

very interesting.
thank you so much for sharing this information.

Audrey Nordmo Horton





Terri Stewart tksweaver@verizon.net [weihsien_camp]
To:weihsien_camp@yahoogroups.com
Mon, 5 Aug 2019 at 07:35
Re: [weihsien_camp] brass safety pins from camp?

Attached are the pins. Did not find her letter just yet (hundreds to read through again) but did find two newspaper articles somewhat describing the exchange, which actually corresponds with the letters I have already sent in. Just need to read them to see that this exchange was mentioned. I will retype the newspapers articles as they are very delicate and not in the best condition. Ruth's exchange number was 790 as I found out. Again, I don't know who the other two pins belong to and hope we can eventually find out. This was arrange as best as I can tell by the Swiss gov't acting as intermediary with Japan. I'll enclose those two news articles in a separate email. I think my pictures will take up too much room.

Terri

I will be glad to! I did not set that letter aside so give me a day to find it in the stack and take a picture of the pins. Terri




tapol@skynet.be [weihsien_camp]
To:weihsien_camp@yahoogroups.com
Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 09:06
RE: [weihsien_camp] brass safety pins from camp?

Dear Terri,

… nobody ever told me this before …

Could you send me a scan of the letter you mention in your message as well as a photo of the pins … to add in your chapter on the Weihsien-paintings’ website in addition to all the letters you have already sent to us. I made a search on the word “pin” but didn’t find anything …

Best regards,
Leopold





Terri Stewart tksweaver@verizon.net [weihsien_camp]
To:weihsien_camp@yahoogroups.com
Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 05:34
[weihsien_camp] brass safety pins from camp?

In cleaning out more of my late-mother's things, I ran across these two safety pins that had numbers on them. My late great-aunt, Ruth H. Kunkel was in the camp but was liberated with the first round of Americans. She also was a nurse as well as a school teacher, so I thought perhaps these pins came from her nursing days as a professor at PUMC.

As I found more letters of Ruth's among the family items, I read one that Ruth had written describing these safety pins. I was very surprised at her description. She stated they were prisoner exchange pins. Prisoners from Weihsien were exchanged for other prisoners of war that the Japanese wanted back, each prisoner having a corresponding/matching pin number.

The two pin numbers are: 2482, 669. Aunt Ruth did not say who these pins belonged to or that if either of them were hers.

I am hoping someone on the Weihsien site will have some answers? If anyone knows who these pins belong to, I will gladly forward them to the family they truly belong with.

Sincerely,
Terri Stewart





tapol@skynet.be [weihsien_camp]
To:weihsien_camp@yahoogroups.com
Sat, 3 Aug 2019 at 10:48
RE: [weihsien_camp] weihsien_camp@yahoogroups.com

Dear Audrey,

Yes, I visioned the DVD last week …
If the background of the film is “history” the Chinese version of the story is pure fiction –

… as for the rest:

GoTo:
http://weihsien-paintings.org/rdjaegher/index.php
and scroll downwards …

all the best,
Leopold

… as far as I know,

Raymond deJaegher (1905-1980) was a Roman Catholic priest, a Belgian missionary in China (S.A.M. = Société Auxiliaire des Missions). A Jesuit. He was a highly intelligent and smart person, fluent in many European languages. He spoke read and wrote in Chinese and was very close to the local population. He was at ease with the wealthy and the poor, the young and the old whether his or her religion or convictions may be. He could listen to your problems and find the right way out.

In Weihsien (I know from what father Hanquet told us) … that he voluntarily stayed in the background by accepting the most repulsive of chores: the latrines. It was the best way for him to stay in close contact with the local population of the outside world - the honey pot men amongst others - with whom he could exchange all sorts of information. Father deJaegher was also in close contact with the members of the Committee of the Camp and worked for the best possible welfare of all the prisoners, regardless of their religion, nationality or social position.

It is Father deJaegher that imagined the scheme of smuggling letters by means of the cesspool coolies in hermetically closed tin cans. The news of my little sister's birth was sent to the family in Belgium by that purpose. It is also Father deJaegher who smuggled inward messages thanks to the Chinese coolies noisily expectorating small silk cloths carelessly on the dirty ground near a wall or in a discreet place. He was quick to pick them up when the Jap guards were looking the other way.

It was Father deJaegher who imagined and organized the escape plan with Laurence Tipton (also very fluent in Chinese). It is he, with the approval of the "Committee" that took all the necessary arrangements with the Chinese guerrilla forces for the safeguard of the escapees. (Read Norman's documents.)

Maybe unknown to many of you, the purpose of this escape was not - simply - to run for freedom but to use the guerrilla's infrastructure to contact the Allies (the Americans) through Chungking, let them know where we were ― in Weihsien ― and what were our absolute needs as to food, medicines … etc. We were, in fact, short of everything. The escapees were to stay in the vicinity of the Camp and move as the guerrilla forces did. (Read Tipton's book.)

And when the decision to "go" was taken with McLaren's approval, Monsignor Rutherford (a bishop in Camp) was opposed to deJaegher's leaving the camp and threatened him of excommunication if he did so. Father deJaegher then, switched places with Hummel ― also very fluent in Chinese ― and Tipton and Hummel finally left the Compound on a moonless night.

Nevertheless, Father deJaegher continued his chores at the latrines, received the messages from the "outside" ― informed the Committee. All these actions made possible the reception in Weihsien, of several crates of indispensable medicines for the hospital, all this, thanks to Mr. Egger, the Swiss Consul's precious collaboration. (Read Pamela's book.)

If we received so many Red Cross parcels in January 1945, it is simply because Tipton and Hummel informed Chungking who informed Bern in Switzerland where the Red Cross was centered, who informed the right persons i.e. the Americans in the Pacific who took the necessary steps to send to Weihsien so may U.S. Red Cross parcels. We were not the only Camp to receive Red Cross parcels. (Read Pamela's book).

When we were finally liberated and so many "group" pictures were taken by the Americans, Father deJaegher figures on most of them.

Now, the time has passed … we are many years later and it is more than 15 years that I am busy building this website with your help. I have read many books about the same subject: Weihsien.

The one thing I notice is that Father Raymond deJaegher is rarely mentioned in the "books" that have been written about the subject. In Langdon Gilkey's book, just to take one example: page 175 he writes about "the Jesuit" and further, on page 204: "the discreet missionary" …

In many of the other books, he is not even mentioned once. (?)

In fact, always filthy and smelly with his "latrine job", he was one of the key figures of the system and he managed to stay "discreet" so the Japs couldn't lay their hands on him.

Leopold. (webmaster)

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Audrey Horton raks732@gmail.com [weihsien_camp]
To:weihsien_camp@yahoogroups.com
Thu, 1 Aug 2019 at 15:38
[weihsien_camp] weihsien_camp@yahoogroups.com

Dear fellow Weihsieners:

I am curious as to the authenticity of the remarks by Zhang Xihong, 3rd son of Zhang Xingtai, the Weihsien Camp Cleaner.

Was there the Red Cross package where the Chinese donated the contents and then it came through the Red Cross?

And what was the contact between individual internees such as Dr. Davies and the camp cleaners?

I have read of the contacts after our two escapees --that were made with the messages from the escapees--through the camp cleaner

Do you know of others? such as over the wall? etc. etc.

Did any of you know Dr. Davies?

I was given a DVD copy of the Chinese film about Eric Liddell--what did all of you think of that?

Thank you for your input.

Audrey Horton

And a great thank you to Leopold for his fantastic work.